Do speaker cables need a burn in period?

@maritime51,
Chill out dude. Do you have any idea how you sound?

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Is this what you mean?

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If they were to do just that, they'd hear it, deny it, become infuriated over it, and continue to attack and demean those who do hear it. Ah, but I repeat myself....

All the best,
Nonoise

If you have to ask.....is it really an issue??? Can't you just hook them up, use them, and see if anything changes over time???

dachshund
I have read much of these comments (out of total curiosity) since I THOUGHT I HAVE HEARD IT ALL!! WOW, Really? I am aware that some can hear better than other's? BUT! i am also knowledgeable enough to know when i see a Scam being perpetuated on the public! it is a total Psychoacoustic sales tactic! Please people! DOGS CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOUR SAYING!

>>>>>Well, dachshunds can’t, but they run down a man at forty paces.

I’m the Pope. Total BS.

But it can’t actually be a scam since it’s free to try 

I'm an electrical engineer. Total BS.

I have read much of these comments (out of total curiosity) since I THOUGHT I HAVE HEARD IT ALL!! WOW, Really? I am aware that some can hear better than other's? BUT! i am also knowledgeable enough to know when i see a Scam being perpetuated on the public! it is a total Psychoacoustic sales tactic! Please people! DOGS CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOUR SAYING!  

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Does the proper direction change depending on the type of doughnut you’re eating?

More to the point, I’d bet dollars to doughnuts naysayers and non believers on the thorny issues of burn in and directionality and cables in general have psyched themselves out. Psychologically predisposed, I think the psychologists would say. Uummmm, did somebody say doughnuts? 🍩 🍩 🍩

tobor007

For me, the real crime in these discussions is the suggestions that the difference in sound with these tweaks make an obvious difference.

There’s no crime being committed here. If you don’t care for the tweaks, you’re free to ignore them.

If someone sneaked  into your listening room and replaced your cables with the exact same cables that were not burned in, how long would it take for you to notice the difference in sound? 
If someone gave you a 10 to 1, $ bet that you could pick out the the direction of your cables with a blind listening test, how much money would you risk? 
For me, the real crime in these discussions is the suggestions that the difference in sound with these tweaks make an obvious difference.

Hey, glubson, if must post some light hearted jibber jabber would it be asking too much to do it on the right thread?

The conclusion is that wire directionality does not matter when dealing with wires of relatively short length (50 cm). Amen.

The only conclusion you can draw is that you didn't hear a difference in your system and in your room. 

I bought an overly expensive RCA interconnect today ($19-20). I replaced a trusted and time-proven skinny one that came with some piece of electronics at some point in the distant past. New one has small arrows on it, or what seems to act as arrows. I tried them in both directions and there was no difference in sound. Not to practice audiophiliac blasphemy, I conducted this experiment with no blinding. I knew what I was changing and in what way. I am still not sure why that is better than single or double-blinded testing in these woods, but so be it.

This thread is about speaker cables and my experiment was about interconnects. Both are, in general, wires.

The conclusion is that wire directionality does not matter when dealing with wires of relatively short length (50 cm). Amen.

Good one! Ouch!

Sure thing!   

I'm afraid the results will be behind a paywall, geoff.  You'll have to sell a few more pebbles to afford it ;-)

prof

As you can see gawdbless: lots of anecdotes coming your way, but not much in the way of objective, measured evidence showing differences between "burned in" cables and new cables.

Looks like we got ourselves a volunteer, folks. Thanks for stepping up to the plate, Prof. I look forward to your results. 😬

As you can see gawdbless: lots of anecdotes coming your way, but not much in the way of objective, measured evidence showing differences between "burned in" cables and new cables. 

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@b4icu 

If a dealer had demonstrated or/and sold a cable, for some US $3,000.- plus, and unfortunately it is not delivering the promised superiority: What could that dealer or sales person say?
"It will open up and sound better after a burn in".

Only three posts in and you are way too clear-sighted and logical. Stick around, things become murkier over time. 

WHY are you all still working on this one?  I already posted the final answer:

I have PERSONALLY spoken to the electrons, and they stated unequivocally that they NEED BURN IN.  It makes it MUCH easier to travel down a wire that is already "slick" from the previous electrons that leave behind a smoother surface.  

Case closed.  (Interview the electrons YOURSELF if you doubt this--don't take my word for it.)

justvintagestuff
Burn in everything for at least 300 continuous hours.
It's that simple - and it does make make a difference...

OK, I’m only going to say this once. Audiophiles, you know, the ones who are constantly getting new electronics, new cables, new tweaks, new capacitors, contact enhancers, fuses, what have you, are in a constant state of flux. In addition, the seasons change the sound, the days change the sound, the sound is affected by the time of day and many other things. I implore you, gentle readers, how can any real audiophile get to the point where everything is broken in? And how can he judge how things performing with so much going on? Keep a log. 

Cooker price?

Second the Audiodharma Cable Cooker.  Paid for itself in a hurry, especially with ICs from tonearms to linestage (I have two TTs), which carry such minuscule signals that in the normal course of playing they never get burned in.  No I wouldn't have believed it either.

Burn in for speaker cables:
Don't buy this. A cooper wire with some soldered ends does not eed any burn in. What is it good for?
If a dealer had demonstrated or/and sold a cable, for some US $3,000.- plus, and unfortunately it is not delivering the promised superiority: Waht could that dealer or sales person say?
"It will open up and sound better after a burn in".
Most customers has nothing to say against this argument and they swollow it. The burn in is good for sales not good for customers!
Why playing some music a soft volume for hours would do a better job that use it for a truck's jum start. It will run the same amounthof current in no time.

Burn in everything for at least 300 continuous hours.
It's that simple - and it does make make a difference...

I was just a little confused. I still am.

Glupson,  after all these years....not sure either way...but that was a slam dunk!

@nonoise   +1. Our ears are the ultimate arbiter. 👂🏻👂🏻

@glupson BINGO!

@danoroo 

Speaker wire burn-in in amplifier specific. So, unless the prior owner used the same make and model amp as you, the cables will act (and sound) like new.

 Ok, just so I am clear, what if the prior owner did in fact use the same make and model amp but.......different speakers??? 🔇🃏

Somewhere, in a hypothetical forest, a tree fell....😱