Volleyguy,
Did Dueland give you any idea of approximate time for break-in of the new Cast caps? I'm willing to wager that they need a couple of hundred hours to open up, hence the restrained mids and highs and accentuation of the bass effect. Give them some time. Turn your volume down for a week and watch some T.V. The World Series is on. |
Duelund did say this is a quote from an e-mail
"The CAST has to my ears a quite lower noise floor than the VSF, right out of the box the HF may sound a little dulled on the CAST but this dissappears completely after 7 days".
I just wanted to say to everyone I am in no way disapointed with Duelund. Maybe my words confused some.
I only meant that the tweeter caps were such a MASSIVE improvement that the midrange was somewhat of a let down in comparison. That being said the Duelund tweeter caps was the biggest improvement I have ever heard in any upgrade including new sources or amps or anything.
Now piling on the the hours and I am not concerned.
Steen in his writings did say that foil caps or variations of the that were the way to go and did say some of the vintage were quite good. That is where Duelund gets there idea's from.
I am running the Duelund VSF in the midrange and the CAST tweeter caps. The caps are much faster in the midrange than the vintage. Almost like the CD running to quick.
Tommorow is the big day for me as I am hooking up the Lp12 which is my main concern anyway. I always thought the Karik a crappy CD player anyway.
I was only shocked that the CD player sounded good with the vintage cap (mid range) which I think is likely slow and round sounding to smooth out the digital.
With having the all vintage Klipsch there I can switch over at any second and do and always break out into laughter. At one point at the start of this thread I was not sure which was better the Klipsch or Linn speakers after hearing a Duelund crossover speaker both are just an absolute joke! |
If you're not happy after a week with the Cast on the mids, pop the vintage oils back in( you already know you like them there) and focus on some of the other tweaks recommended in previous posts. Bottom line, just enjoy the music. The tweaks are a fun part of this hobby, but don't let them prevent your ultimate enjoyment of the music. |
Sherod I have VSF for the mids and a set of CAST for the tweeters only. It is not that I am unhappy with the VSF in the midrange. It is likely as simple as the VSF's revealing the weak source. I suspect it is the slower vintage cap going through oil smoothing out the digital stair step sound. I am running 24/7 for break in. (don't want to pile the hours on cartridge)
Part of the reason for this is I did lots of reading on caps (tweaks) and guys would say they liked or did not like but I never knew what kind of improvement it meant for the buck.
The tweeter (Duelund) caps made at least 10x the difference from an old NAD Cd player to a Linn Karik or at least 10x the difference that I heard from a 1k pre amp to a $3k+ pre amp. In the store I have heard 3k CD player to the 6 or 7k CD player and the Duelund in just the tweeter caps is 10x that. So I am not unhappy with Duelund in the midrange as the vintage blew away the Mundorf's I tried. So the vintage was not weak in the first place as a 28 year old cap still sounded MUCH better than brand new (200 hours on) Mundorf Supreme.
I have personally e-mailed and thanked Duelund for making these fantastic foil caps. |
Break in
Hey Jude
Starting to open up (CAST) I can easily tell when they are playing the the tri-angle or when Ringo hits the crash cymbal and the tambourine is being played. You can hear the individual cymbals of the tambourine.
I could hear the tri-angle before but could not hear the tambourine's cymbals.
It's actually crazy the detail.
I need a better front end digital. |
Volleyguy,
Congrats on those CASTs, we should start a club... ;)
Let the burn in take its time they'll only get better from now on.
I agree with you that the upgrade you get by targeting the cross over section is stupendous, we seem to agree on Duelund also. |
Halcro,
My CASTs seemed to get better and better over a couple of weeks. Don't get me wrong, they were hardly lacking to start with... |
Everything running without a glitch until Duelund went into the midrange. I went back to vintage and it clearly sounded better with the CD player. Just switched to the Lp12 and then going to put back in the Duelund.
I know my caps are bad (with out a doubt) but can not understand why a worn out vintage cap sounds better with the Karik in the midrange. I THINK it is just combo of the Duelund revealing the weak source and sounding digital.
This has confused me all along as my Lp12 has not sounded as good as the Karik and nobody ever feels that way. I once thought of just selling the Karik and not even having any digital it was just so far behind.
Still experimenting. Ideally I can get things back to the Kairn/Klout with the Lp12. I have all my money in the Lp12 and can not understand why things went bad. (following that Linn theory of spend all your money on the source)
Holy Crap!
To make matters worse the vintage amp just blew up!!!! Scared the crap out of me! Smoke rolling up by the transformers.
Thank Goodness I was just sitting here. Could have burn't the house down!!! Smoke rolling up out of the transformer and power output tube area.
Maybe I was playing with fire running an antique 24/7. Well actually I was!
Any idea of what could cause it? I think the phono stage has a defect or maybe a short and caused it to short out. It seemed to make funny sounds on the phono stage?
It happened right when writing this. |
Well at least no damage to the speakers or the caps. Hooked up the SS to make sure it was not my wiring. I never seen a electrical device blow up! |
Have the Duelund's in VSF in midrange and the Linn Klout/Kairn hooked up.
Disregard any negative about Duelund in the midrange. It sounds very, very good now. I am wondering if something wasn't going on the vintage amp before it blew up.
Also I need the Duelund mid caps now anyway as the modern amp hates the vintage cap. (sounds awful)
Also the LP12 destroys the CD player as it should with the SS gear and Duelund caps in the crossovers.
Halcro, Stormen I would like to hear what you are running types of speakers and tube amps vintage, modern or SS. Yes we should have the Duelund club. I know my non Duelund speakers sit disconnected from any amp and will either be sold or upgraded. I can hear the poor quality caps of those speakers and can't stand it!
I know I still prefer the vintage amp for the ultimate in realism. (with the Duelund's of course) Have you guys found all natural foil systems to be the best? I find one plastic cap in the crossover and you do not get the full Duelund effect and even the SS amp is not allowing the Duleund's to do quite all they can.
I would really like to hear what you guys have found. It is a much better thread for others to hear how to max out these caps. |
Glad to hear your VSF Duelund caps are coming on song Volleyguy. Stick with them, I don't think you'll find anything so transparent and grainless.....and that's as much as you can ask of a cap? Click onto my system and see if you have any questions? |
Halcro nice system.
The gentleman I bought my LP12 from bought a Raven as well. Working well for you? What did you have before? |
Volleyguy,
I agree completely that plastic should be avoided, nigh on impossible as it may be
Paper/metalfoil caps to me also seems to be a way better bet than any metalized capacitor. It seems to me that the only reason why foil caps are not predominant in audio today relates to cost and ease of implementation.
I use Duelund CAST caps and resistors on my tweeter. My woofer uses a CAST inductor. Wouldnt have it any other way.
My Duelund car system is being developed, so wont bore you with that. Yet
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Volleyguy, I had a Kebschull valve pre-amp immediately before the Halcro, with a Perraux 1850 power amp. A Rega Planar 3 with Hadcock GH228 Unipivot arm had been my analogue source since 1979. The speakers have been with me for 30 years albeit now with Scanspeak drivers (except for the woofers), Vampire internal wiring and Duelund capacitors. Here is a link to a review when I changed to the Raven AC3 http://forums.avguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=3585 |
Stormen and in the midrange?
I am out looking for another vintage tube amp and repair for mine. I am going to have to run two amps.
My CD player sounds poor with the SS pre and amp. But then again it always did. Hard and brittle.
So anyone reading this in my opinion you do not get the full Duelund with SS (or at least my SS) and I did find even one plastic cap in the circuit does not allow full effect. |
Volleyguy,
Running 2 way right now, so should have read woofer/mid.
Did anyone see this audiogon review of a Duelund upgrade of a Dunlavy?
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?rspkr&1164387495
His findings seem to mimick those in this thread. |
Yes I did.
I read too much before doing mine. My daughter and I are going through my vinyl collection this weekend to sort out the worn ones. (she loves doing that and I am not sure why) Where I had doubts and was not sure before there is no doubt now! You can hear clear as day a worn or even slightly worn vinyl.
I am wiring up the other speaker tomorrow.
Also getting another vintage amp. Looking right now. I have become convinced that there is something about the vintage amps. Maybe the resistors or caps or maybe just the tubes. Not sure yet.
My SS sounds like listening in Black and White. I know some say tube amps are colored. Give me color over Black and White any day.
One thing is for certain I have become a HUGE Duelund fan. Upon switching from one speaker to the other the difference is staggering.
I have become a fan of not just the caps but Steen's findings.
I am buying a second amp that is largely the same, for parts as well. I want all plastic out. I have been reading some vintage stuff and guys say that when they change the resistors and caps in the amps you lose the sound. Of course they will have been going to plastic caps.
This has been very humbling for me. I used to think you needed to spend a ton of $ on a system. |
I think I found the problem in the vintage amp.
The one and only plastic cap the wire going in has gotton very hot. What I do not know is was it even supposed to be there?? Can anyone help with vintage Fisher schematics and more in particular fisher x101d.
I bought a capacitance testers. I wanted to know how the old Klipsch caps were. The tweeter caps test right on 2.0uf but sound noisy. The mid cap tests 14uf but sound good (real good) but should be 13uf.
I tested quite a few caps in the the fisher and very close to original value.
The problem with the plastic cap (in the fisher) is it seems to be added for no reason?? Also the value says brand KMC value 100uf and 200v No where else is there a vintage cap of this value??
Was this just someone doing there own sound mod?
It is clearly the source of the heat problem. I can not see any other damage. It guages out nowhere near 100uf? |
I did find out the cap runs from the 12Ax7 low level (phono pre-amp) tube to the output tube. All along I have thought this amp sounded very good on digital and terrible with the turntable. It blew up when using the turntable.
Also does anyone know if Electrolytic caps are used on tube phono stages?
I know I read these tube amps were supposed to have decent phono stages. I found this one lousy! Great line stage.
Another question does anyone have any recommendations for the cap for the phono stage? |
don't worry about a part that doesnt' measure 'exactly' as marked. All have a built in tolerance. Lower/better=$$$$$
I haven't plowed thru the whole thread, but how old was the cap that smoked? They do that, you know. Caps age.
If a piece of gear has been sitting...and I mean years not weeks, be careful when firing it up again. |
Magfan the part that smoked (the capacitor) was the only new part I know of in the amp.
I had used the Fisher for a few months and tons of hours but when the phono stage was hooked up it went up in smoke. I wonder if the cap was the incorrect voltage? |
I'd sure find out! How long had it been on when it 'smoked'?
I don't know your repair skills, but I'd sure be looking for a schematic / meter / solder sucker / scope / iron (10watt?)
Lacking the skillset needed to fix it, a good repair guy, for sure.
Next thing to worry about is if the dying cap took out other elements in the circuit? |
The best place to seek advice on the Fisher is the AudioKarma website. There's a army of Fisher freaks on there. |
Thanks Wavetrader
I am going to go there. I did see a pic and there is a cap on another x101d. I think whoever put that cap in put the wrong one or a poor quality cap or maybe there is something wrong with the phono stage that is causing these caps to blow? |
Thanks for the help I did find the cap is a 100uf 100v Electolytic cap.
The resistor that was touching it appears to have got hot and melted the wire. It tests 46ohms and was rated 500. (power handling is 7 w)
Any recommendations on resistors??? or electrolytic caps? for the phono stage. |
Since vinyl is my main source any suggestions. I find the Fisher sounds fabulous on CD but did not sound good on vinyl before it blew no doubt the resistor and cheap electrlytic cap would not help.
Any suggestions? |
Sorry guys no camparisions from CAST and VSF yet. Looking for another vintage amp. I blame myself very stupid leaving that old amp on that long. Should have had a cooling fan on it.
With the SS it is just not good at all. Can not fault Duelund just a poor match.
I will have one or two vintage tube amps going in a week or two.
You do not get that super realism Duelund can deliver with the (vintage) tube gear on this SS.
In fact it is not a whole lot better than than the vintage caps.
If I was to have done the caps based on SS I would not have been to thrilled. If I did not know what Duelund could do I would in fact be upset.
Duelund in my mind is a completely different cap and may need no plastic caps in the system and maybe no SS to show what they are capable of.
I know I have said the caps are the best money I have ever spent and they are with the tube gear and maybe the worse money I have spent with SS as they do not move the earth like they can.
Oh well at least the cap burn will be done by the time the tube amp is hear. |
Not attempting to bring this thread back to life, but I found this interesting thread... Volleyguy will get off reading this :-) Still not sure if you ever changed out those woofer inductors this might point you in the right direction. By the way I have used the duelund VSF's now on my horns with the Jantzen superiors Bypassed with the Vishay MKP's in the woofers backed by the 12 gauge copper foil Alpha core inductors, identical approach to Tony Gee.. My crossovers now cost more than most completed speakers, but worth it.. See link
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?rspkr&1164387495&openflup&19&4 |
I will check it out for sure Undertow.
I feel not ready to comment on the CAST till the tube amp gets here. (so not much to say) I bought a 500c and will be buying another vintage tube amp or two as well. Not going to have less than two working ones again. I will likely change the woofer inductor as well. Sorry for not finishing the thread but unexpected smoke slowed things down.
I can understand your feeling of being worth it on the crossover being more $ than speakers.
I still must say though Duelund not worth it on SS. (or at least mine) The stunning difference the caps make on vintage tube gear does not carry over to the SS. I have theory's but am not sure why?
The difference from the vintage and the newer SS is mindboggling. So much I can not even comment on the CAST vs. VSF with this setup. I have this theory that the tolerances (meaning cap tolerances) are not as important as material type of the cap. By my conclusion in the midrange that the vintage foil and Duelund sounded VERY much a like. One being a crude device another state of the art and both were good and all the plastic caps were poor.
Doesn't matter as I will own no SS in a short while anyway. Likely never again! Also never to own poly caps again either. A unmistakable fakeness (to me) is added by them.
I do have this theory on resonance. I think we need just the right amount. Or at least resonance is like tube distortion. I could hear the resonance in the mid range vintage cap and it is not offensive like the distortion from the SS amp. Like a natural resonance. Where the crude vintage caps run into trouble is in the tweeters. The resonance there comes across as noise and distortion. Not painfull SS noise just a fog kind of noise.
So Undertow I do not have a lot of confidence that a air core 12 guage inductor is going to make much difference. I am going to do it just to hear it but do not have high hopes. I hope your right and it does in my speakers. Always want improvement. I do have concerns about the plastic on the inductor. I do not know if plastic in an inductor is the same negative as plastic caps?
If the plastic coated 12 guage inductor does not sound as good (in my case) as the lower guage iron core (plastic free) vintage inductor I will feel very confident that plastic is the problem and will likely buy Duelund (or other plastic free) Inductor and speaker wire. |
Will be able to test caps soon with at least 4 different vintage tube amps if not more.
Lost my mind over vintage. I want spare parts for a lifetime.
I had heard only new tube and SS gear.
Read a good link on a guitar amp site on why vintage sounds better. Points were.
Transformers now are wound different using a plastic core. Is this correct? Anyone know? Paper bobbins opposed to plastic.
Point to point wiring
Circuit boards act as a capacitor. Is this correct? The site said only point to point wiring does not do this and they prove it by having two wires run in opposite direction.
Of course they talked about caps and resistors as well being better. |
Jody/Volleyguy, before you "lose you mind over vintage," kindly return to me the 10 teflon & PIO caps that I lent to you for testing long ago. Thanks, Dave |
Sorry Dave they will be mailed within one hour. I "really" did want to hear them in the electronics. I am sorry for the delay but testing caps can be expensive. I was never going to keep Dave's caps when the amp blew that slowed things down. One can see from e-bay my buying of 3 tube vintage amps but of course they are Dave's caps and will be mailed today. I will be listing the Mundorfs at 50% off new on e-bay today. So if anyone wants to try Mundorf's e-mail me before and you can have them.
I have decided not to fix up the Linn speakers and now for sure do not need the parts.
Also today another Linn Klout amp and pre-amp. (Kairn) I have already sold one so whatever I have said about thinking vintage tube gear that great and Duelund that great one can see that it is no bull as you can see the results for sale. |
What size are the mundorfs? Supreme or Supreme silver oil?
Thanks |
Mundorf Supreme 10uf
Mundorf Supreme 3.3uf
Mundorf Supreme 2.2uf
Mundorf Silver in Oil 2.2uf
All just one of each.
Good deal for any buyer. I have them listed at 50% and include free shipping. I have not put all on yet but will.
Testing caps is an expensive hobby overall. The Sonicaps sold for around 50% new. If one does buy them from me you will not suffer further depreciation.
Dave your caps are on their way.
I did really want to hear them though. I am very curious about the teflon in electronics. Oh well, another time. The Russians at least you can play with without wasting a ton of money.
Buying caps in not like buying an amp used. You spend a lot testing and end up with just one and the others have not much value.
I have learned when buying a speaker I would want to know what the crossover is made of. A complicated one could break ya! |
Sorry forgot to say Thanks Dave.
I was never going to keep them just wanted to hear them. (in electronics) Wish the amp did not blow up! The amp blew up the day the CAST caps came in. Actually worried I wired something up wrong for a minute.
Thanks for the link to AK guys. I am getting some much needed help there.
With half a dozen vintage amps to try I may need it! |
Volleyguy, thanks for checking out the caps & for returning. The Russians are cheap on ebay, should you decide to continue experimenting. |
Dave the "losing my mind over vintage" is what feels like a good description.
I started fixing up old speakers and ended up selling everything I owned! All to buy some old junk! (that sounds great but still) So it feels like I am losing my mind!
I think the speakers (Linn are sold) and will sell the last of the electronics off this week. To think I was just looking to fix a second system set of speakers!
So Duelund can be dangerous! (just kidding) |
All the Mundorf caps are for sale very cheap on e-bay. Includes free shipping. (50% off new and I am paying for shipping)
Today I bought some Klispch Heresy's (I's) for Alnico tweeter and midrange in case needed. When down to one system one needs parts. Might see what Duelund does there (tweeter caps) as they are the same tweeter caps as the AA network.
Lots of Linn gear for sale as well. |
Volleyguy,
I must say, I experienced a huge leap in quality on solid state when going to Duelund. You may be right that its even better with tubes
Found this:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vevol&1216741392&openflup&43&4#43
Apparently other people are joining the club. |
I too am running total solid state and the Duelunds are a revelation. I don't understand how a capacitor is going to distinguish between an electrical signal generated by valves or transistors? It doesn't make sense to me and I'd sure like to see a scientific explanation if there is one? |
Stormen and Halcro
I will give what I think is possible.
The guitar amp guys swear by vintage tube guitar amps. After hearing the vintage stereo tube amp I can understand why. Tones. Guitar guys talk about the tone. I can understand that now! The vintage tube (stereo) amp excels at it. My SS is not even in the league. You can tell so many different instruements apart. I do not mean to say your SS amps are not good just mine was not even close to the vintage tube amp.
I have been driven nuts as to why myself. I now have 5 vintage amps in total one here (broken) and 4 coming and maybe more.
You guys both read Steen's findings. No plastic was huge to him. I suspect he wondered why the vintage stuff sounded better.
The guitar guys say no plastic in the vintage transformer? point to point wiring. (I am assuming your amps have circuit boards) The vintage amp uses foil caps. No doubt not even close to Duelund quality but the Duelund's really only blew away my tweeter caps and it is close in the mid range. They both have similiar tones. Which makes me think (as Steen said) "caps should be foil or some variation of".
When I think about my Linn system which was a pretty standard system. (near there top a few year ago) I used all Linn I.C's Linn sources Linn pre Linn amp Linn speaker wire (tri-wire) and Linn speakers and yet the vintage stuff blew it away! Like I said when I heard the Linn all I could think was attention Walmart shoppers! Night and day. That is where the losing my mind over vintage. Why? is what was bugging me.
Look at my Linn system
pre-amp loaded with circuit boards along with the amp. The speaker crossover had cheap electrolytic caps. Cheap plastic caps and on a circuit board again. I heard tons of high freq hash all the time. It was so bad on the CD player I used to laugh at it. I thought it was a piece of junk! When that same CD player is hooked up to all foil amp. all foil (non circuit board) speaker crossover it was a thing of beauty. I never would have believed it could even sound so good.
I think it is like a chain. When I put the Mundorf in the Midrange even in a all foil vintage amp the Duelund's did not shine the same. When I put in (my SS) the Duelund's do not shine the same. All foil all the way and WOW! Holy mother of crap that is amazing! Hence all my gear up for sale.
There is even only one concern I have is why does my CD player sound around the same as the LP12 on vintage? That is my one last question. Might not even own a turntable soon.
I will be going to Steen's site again to look for more clues. |
Volleyguy, you can do much better than a LP12....especially if it sounds like your CD player.
Even my 30 year old Rega 3 would demolish any CD player! |
Halcro on my Linn SS the Lp12 blows away the Cd player. My Lp12 has the cirkus bearing, Lingo and Ekos Mk II tonearm. That is part of what I am saying my CD player sounded like garbage until I got the vintage tube amp. |
Well now I'm completely confused? Are you saying that the Linn is great with transistors but with tubes it's only the CD player that benefits? |
Halcro I am somewhat confused myself. The tubes make the CD player sound like it never has before. (always wayyyyy below the level of the LP12) On the other side the improvement was not as stark with the Lp12 hooked up to tubes. This could be as little as a poor vintage phono stage. If you would have asked me before this I just assumed vinyl was the only way to go. Almost got rid of the CD player as it was getting so little use. Mostly for my wife really as I never listened to it. I am to the point of wondering if I will keep the Lp12. That's why I say I was confused as well. SS causes an ever increasing investment in the LP12 and I was somewhat frustrated with being somewhat stuck in the past. (vinyl I mean) Halcro I think everyone would agree if you can get digital as good as vinyl sound than vinyl is a big question mark. CD's do not wear out like lp's etc. I know a lot of it has to do with even and odd harmonic distortion. In my opinion digital with (my SS) just gives wayyyy too much odd harmonic distortion.
Which takes me back to Steen's camp. A cheap (my CD player was $3 or $4k new) but only worth $600 (or so) now coupled with a vintage tube amp (again for chump change) with vintage speakers and Duelund crossover blows away a my many, many times more expensive vinyl SS system. Steen says 50% speakers 50% of that crossover and 50% in the rest of the system.
My x-101-d is I think the same as the 500c. Stereophile write this review and I know they love everything except the Fisher does not advertise. They do say the phono stage not all that great.
http://www.stereophile.com/historical/605fisher/ |
Have two (new) old Fishers here one x101 and a 500c. The x101 was supposed to have no hum? Maybe the owner was deaf?? The 500c is working but does not have the crystal clear sound of the x101-d before it blew. I have to get tubes checked out etc. So both are going to tech guy.
I will have to replace electrolytics etc. Any recommendations there?
This sounds more like what I thought vintage would. A little dull. |
Nichicon electrolytics from Michael Percy is your best bet
http://www.percyaudio.com/ |
G_24 Thanks
I never hear people talk much about Electrolytics. At least one being better than the other.
I am going to put the Duelund VSF's into the Klipch heresy's to see if the improvement is the same there. Of course they have the same tweeter and midrange but no mid range caps so just tweeter caps to replace so a Duelund speaker on the cheap. I am going to test the 500c what will be the livingroom system.
Will Duelund make the same improvement in cheap speakers??
Part of me bought the Heresy's for parts for the Khorns (I have Lascala's but getting Khorns) part wants to never do this again! I already know what will sound good in the Heresy's. (I think)
Heresy's have slow bass compared to Khorns or Lascala's that won't change even if one did put in Duelund tweeter caps. |
Put the Duelund VSF's into the tweeter caps (which is all there is) into the Heresy's.
I am not intending to buy them for the Heresy's. (yet) Just want to see if they make the same kind of difference. It might be something someone would consider if they like Klipsch sound and did not have room for the big Lascala's Belle's or Khorns. The caps are worth more than the speakers!
Well I was right with the Lascala's the Duelund have do the same thing in the Heresy's.
Not just the highs are smoother the white noise is eliminated and mids are smoother. A huge improvement albeit at a cost many might not want to spend on a set of Heresy's.
I just wanted to know if I thought it was worth it in a set of cheaper speakers. The Heresy's to me are like Cornwalls too slow in the bass. This is for me as I know some like Cornwalls over Lascala's and Khorns. Too me the big horn driven woofer speakers are wayyyyy better and much faster in the bass. Some say they can't bass out of the horn type. I think they miss the boom. Would I spend the money on the Heresy's on Duelund. Hmmm part is maintance and foil in oil originals are Ok for midrange but in the high freq the Duelund tight tolerance is MUCH better. To me Duelund is a slam dunk in the tweeter caps. Better than the vintage ever was by a mile and for good reason! |
I can't believe I read the whole thing! OK, I skipped over some of Volley's ramblings, (who hasn't?) and I have these comments:
1) I still don't care for most Beatles songs
2) There are some great cap comparison links here - thanks
3) Volleyguy you:
a. are crazy stubborn
b. completely ignore really, really good input & advice
c. infer cause/effect where none exists, and then
d. make broad unfounded generalizations
4) I have enjoyed reading (almost) every word! Thanks again.
I too am stubborn, but finally gave up and bought new speakers. First though I built my own from scratch (took a year), tweaked them for another year after that. When I couldn't match, much less exceed, the sound of my existing KEF 104/2s, I thought seriously about rebuilding them (the KEFs that is). By then I'd had enough tinkering and thrown away enough money that I bought some new Gallo Ref 3.1s. I am very happy with these unique speakers (not pushing them - they are NOT for horn guys).
Volley - God bless you and I sure hope you find what you are searching for. Your love and passion for these speakers is commendable and it seems your quest will end successfully. I am now back to just enjoying my music collection. Hope you will get to this place again soon as it's very peaceful here. In the meantime, I am enjoying following your journey and at times seeing more of me in you than I'd like to admit. Passion about the intangible and indescribable does that to us all.
Dan
PS Do you think I should replace the caps in my new speakers with Duelund CAST? .... just kidding :)
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