cal91, I'm not being facetious, I'm repeating what Mark Taylor said in one of his videos. He is a retired firefighter who wrote the Trump Prophecies and predicted Trump (God's chosen one) would win the presidency years before 2016. God spoke to him and said that he is not angry with the general population of this country but rather with the leadership and the churches. It is your choice to agree with this man but he comes across as a regular but honest man. Check him out.
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Love everyone but dont agree with any crowds....
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Dont trust prophets especially the religious one....
God dont have a beard and dont spoke, especially about politics....
If inner voices speaks about politics it is not God nor your inner voice, it is hallucinations....
When Ramanujan listened to his goddess she speaks about prime numbers, it is a bit more serious for a god or a goddess...
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And here I thought the names of the 3 stooges were Larry, Moe, and Curly...
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Larry Moe and Curly did their own thing....no prophets! |
They are young and dont read books only news....News are made for slow crowd brain and dont speak about anything serious.....They dont even speak about the US, because they dont speak about the world situation then how can they speak about the US?
At best people replace fake news with their faked brain.... The words come from the head....This is pitiful....
Why not trying a real hard book?
« Only reading can free ourself, no gun can make that »- Anonymus
« Reading is like making love, it is hard the first time»-Anonymus |
If one can’t process the news for what its worth rather than fear it, I don’t know about books. Reading and synthesis of actual knowledge is hard work. |
If someone cannot process the world situation it is like he dont live really this time and moment in history.... Most live like animals without knowing who they are and why....
They react to order, stimulus, conditioning, and slogans.....Like dogs or rats in a laboratory....
Awake yourself and listen to no one.... |
Yup that’s pretty much it. |
They also often have great disdain for being truly educated and the success that often brings for those who endeavor to learn and apply their knowledge constructively. |
When i was young i was looking for someone i could and would admire and that would guide me....
Pick the right one, not a celebrity for sure, they are almost all idiotic....Pick a true great man in any field except politic....
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My childhood heroes were Professor John Robinson, Mr. Spock and Johnny Cash. At least 1 of them was real. 😉 |
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I was a great admirer of Spock, before i could understand that logic only make you insane....
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Johnny Cash try to give something to the world at least.... A great artist and a man.... |
"Beware the false prophets, for they are the Devil trying to lure you away from the truth..." |
Oh, and also the Jabberwock.... |
«Truth dont need prophets, only your brain with your heart my dear» -Groucho Marx |
I love Lewis Carroll.... :) |
Maghasitor, if you don't believe, it's all about choices and I don't think any one could survive standing directly in his presence, too powerful no one knows what he (God) exactly looks like. That is why he sent his son Jesus.
Let me tell you a short but true story. A group of Russian scientists went to Siberia to check out a large hole in the ground. They lowered a microphone deep in this hole and it was recording. What they heard was astonishing. It clearly sounded like millions of people screaming in agony. Then a large winged evil creature surfaced from this hole and flew off. They were so frightened that most of the scientists packed and left. Later interviewed one of the men said he never believed in God but now he sure believes in Hell. This audio and testimony can be seen on the internet at the time. I watched it and it woke me up.
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And the Jubjub Bird. He's bad news too. |
A group of Russian scientists went to Siberia I know this story.... I dont want to disturb your faith, but only to put it on a higher level than actual political lies from all parties... Read the" Heaven and Hell" by Swedenborg....It will give you a better first idea about that.... Swedenborg was one of the greatest scientist of his times....And a Mystic who speak with angels... Read it... The book cost peanuts..... All european geniuses read it even Kant who dislike him for sure.... |
phd, that ridiculous story was proven a complete hoax 20 years ago.
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Gotta go, Elvis just landed in a flying saucer and asked me to help him unload this crate full of Bigfoots. Or is that Bigfeet? |
A brain without heart is only sand...
A heart without brain is only water...
Add the 2 and flower will flourish..... |
Good night The carpathian.... i wish you dreams and more.... |
Maghister the secret sauce is logic + facts. Either alone does not work. |
phd...I think I'll pass on that, but I am going to be respectful and acknowledge that you have a right to your beliefs. We have taken this discussion into a new territory and one in which I am completely unqualified to bring any light to the subject. I am agnostic and can't for the life of me see how anyone could consider themselves anything else. I don't know the truth about religion and the existence of God and no one else knows it either. It's all based on faith, not measurable science. I will never tell someone who believes that they are wrong because I have no way of knowing. Pasqual's Wager was based on his belief that you should try to believe and live your life as if you did. If you're wrong you didn't lose anything and led a good life. If you're right you are rewarded with everlasting life in Heaven. Remember the poster in Fox Maulder's room on The X Files? It said I want to believe. I want to believe, I just can't get past that evidence problem. More power to you. |
My hero was (he died last year) one of my History professors at Cal who became my best friend. He was the most intelligent, kindest, generous, empathetic person I have ever known. He was, before he became a professor, a speech writer for Hubert Humphrey, the great liberal. As for living heroes, I would have to say Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a great humanitarian. |
Maghister the secret sauce is logic + facts. Either alone does not work.
logic + facts are not enough.... What is a fact? The heart + brain is more of a beginning....Because fact are always at the end of some perspective view.... The heart will help with what is not yet a "fact"....Faith is from the heart.... |
Well I also believe in flying saucers. We have several that maintain the same trajectory in the sky (for years) and sometimes when one is disturbed like from fireworks it will fly directly over (at roof top) in our neighborhood. They were large and orange. Note we live very close to two military bases. I talked to the clerk at a local gas station about this and he said he would like to believe but he has his doubts. Until he stepped out of the building and was having a smoke with his family it was then they all seen it for themselves, totally freaked them out and he told me about it later. There are many things in this world we don't understand but have substance. One day the truth about this and many other things will be revealed to us. Until that day we we can label it a conspiracy theory.
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Flying saucers are not flying saucers anymore.... if someone dare to read a little bit.... :)
The universe is not think by clever men now like inhabited by any other consciousness...
Our civilization is very primitive.... We dont even recognize other intelligence on our earth.... |
Yes, my friend. I know they are now UAP’s. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena... Flying saucers is much more common when discussing such things...
By the way, I wonder where the Russian scientists found a microphone that could withstand 2000° f and 9 miles of microphone cable. Maybe it fell out of a UAP...
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For the Russian hell pit it is a myth...
Hell tough is an objective creation of the mind.... Like heaven.... :)
I thought you were sleeping thecarpathian? Perhaps i speak to your astral body?
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phd, the UFOs or UAPs are real, as many are seen. The truth is that they are from HERE. |
Not yet. I just got done unloading the last bigfoot. Ah, astral projection! I think if I could do that, I would project myself to Argentina for a cold mate... |
Then i hope you will teach me..... I will go with you for a mate on pure argentinian soil.... :) |
isochronism, you could be correct as the military has forgot to mention they own a few of them(UFOs) I wonder who gave them this advanced technology? Mahgistor just because you don't believe in hell doesn't mean its going to cease to exist for your convenience.
Covid 19 ( maybe the grand illusion) but many are not coping very well with the lock down. Every where there are groups of people defying safety measures of this virus and naturally the news increases coverage of these areas and are reporting more cases of Covid 19. The food supply is slowly diminishing because a few reported cases in food packing plants as well as meat packing plants, shutting these operations down for safety in some states.( Henry Kissinger) said if you control the food supply you can control the entire world The economy can not take too many more business closures especially small businesses. If the entire economy is destroyed each and every one of us are going to be negatively impacted in ways you can't imagine, making the Great Depression look like a walk in the park, lets hope this does not happen. I would much favor opening all business but practicing safety.
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Why would you practice safety for an illusion? |
thecarpathion. I seen you unloading that poor bigfoot in the middle of the night, how dare you, you've been caught man! I don't think they (the Russians) have to lower the microphone that far to hear what they recorded. Sound travels through a hole, you should know this as an audiophile.
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Mahgistor just because you don’t believe in hell doesn’t mean its going to cease to exist for your convenience. You dont read me in the right way.... i believe hell exist but is a creation of consciousness not of God.....My God dont wrote books and dont have beard....My faith is the faith of an old man without church, and not the faith of a children anymore....I trust God not religions... You can write mahgister :) By the way the economy was already destroyed before the covid crisis.....Dont read the dow Jones like Trump read it.... Read a little bit more than news or ideology.... |
thecarpathion, why would you practice safety for an illusion because many don't know this could be an illusion. And some are from the camp I will be completely complicit because I want to show my obedience to the main stream mocking bird news. Or just in case until someone with credentials tells me other wise.
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They recorded nothing. It is a hoax, man. It has been proven to be a hoax over 20 years ago. There were no voices. There was no flying evil creature. There was no microphone. There is no getting through to you. Believe in your foolishness. Believe in your conspiracies. Believe in whatever you choose to believe. Believe that you are right and the rest of the rational, clear thinking world is wrong. Sound, like reality, also travels through an empty head. Have fun in your delusional little world.
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mahgister, calm down, I see what your saying, that for you, hell and heaven is in your mind. I want to ask you which one is winning?
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No one is winning.... You are free to create your own reality.... I dont have faith in idols.... And a punishing god is ridiculous idea, a primitive one indeed...My God is the absolute love....
Consciousness only exist.... Matter is a 19 century scientist superstition.... Modern science is no more there....
My only "religious" experience is the infinity of an all encompassing consciousness.... I trust mathematics not the priests of any religion.... And i trust my own consciousness....And i trust the all encompassing consciousness that is yours also...
Mathematics is only a fixed photograph of the universal cellulars living infinite memory.... This is the true divine for me....God is Absolute.... Not a thing....God is pure love not a limited individuality....Only God exist then you exist through "him" and with "him"....You are free then you create hell for yourself with hate and dissipate it with love.... Simple....Awake yourself and decide which way you will create with whom you will side, Truth or idols....
Freedom is too heavy load for most.... They want chains or scapegoats....The truth is we are all responsible for all there is ....
Death dont exist but freedom exist.....Most think in reverse of the Truth....They think that freedom dont exist and that death is real....They dont have faith in themselves at all....Loving ourself and our neighbor in the same manner is the only absolute law....
We are lucky we live the times that are changi’in before our eyes like in Bob Dylan song....
Ok i calm down.... :)
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thecarpathion, thanks for the summary I didn't say you should believe me but if for one brief moment you thought this could be true you might actually look into this and remove yourself from your security blanket. I'm not here to convince you of what I said but to allow you to understand that there are millions of people waking up. It's called "The Great Awakening"
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Mahgister, I like your statement that freedom is a load for most, they want chains, well said, I will remember that piece of wisdom. I will add another piece of wisdom, until all of us wake up, nothing will change, it will just keep getting worse. They fear that day might occur, because it will be their end.
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Pretty sad and insulting to be asked for receipts for dead peers. I’m a musician, before Covid I was touring constantly. I actually got Covid on a flight home from Berlin. Since then, it’s gone from scary to absolutely dark. And yes, I’ve lost close friends, far friends, and friends of friends. It’s exponential. So forgive if I have zero patience for self righteous tinfoil-hat skeptics masquerading as “critical thinkers”. Next you’ll say Antifa is a terrorist organization and “all lives matter.” I suggest easing up on watching the news and trying on some outside perspectives for size. I’m only 42, bit I’ve been very much around, and sorry, but the situation we’re in is nothing to be proud of.
I actually do appreciate this thread though, as it’s weeded out the opinions of whom I’ll take less seriously moving forward.
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au_lait, yes I believe your telling the truth because this virus effects mostly older people with compromised immune systems much more then the young. How many thousands of people die from the common flu virus every year. We never shut the whole country down over that. I'm suggesting that the Covid 19 is no worse then the common flu but can be deadly to the vulnerable.
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"Hell is other humans."
Yep, sound travels through holes quite successfully....ear canals, mouths, noses.....and occasionally....ones' anus.
Making sense of the first 2 is likely the most problematic for the bulk of humanity, since senselessness (I love that word...a plethora of sibilance...) seems to be the easiest response to invoke....
We know what we want....but we don't know what to want.
My biggest concern of late is that we as a species seem hell-bent on making the 'End Times' scenario of the radical Christians a priority. WTF?! Seems a rather stupid thing to want....
"Glory to God, lets' all die!" Fine...take your mask off, and go lick the eyeballs of someone who tested +....
The population needs to be 'weeded out' a tad....Social Darwinism in action, even if on an unconscious level....not to mention a clueless level.
(*L* Since y'all seem to be having so much fun muck-raking each other, I just wanted to wade in to the murk and count the 'floaters'....) ;) |
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au_leit, I'm taking a few notes my self along the way. I thought that some of you audiophiles were not that dumbed down. Why do you think the Democrats have spent countless hours trying to impeach Trump for 3 and a half years over false accusations like Russian collusion and many other charges when in fact that's exactly what they were guilty of. They had an insurance policy to get rid of him before he was sworn into office but they failed to impeach him on all accounts. How many times have they tried to kill him but failed because he was not protected by the secret service but rather the marine corp.If you look at the timing of the release of the Covid 19 virus it seemed like another progression for them to destroy the economy and destroy him. My mind works that way because I observe. The hoax is the virus is not as bad as they claim but if too many people believe that way, they will come up with something else to make it worse the ever.
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@phd....(which I find presumptive...)
So....the conservatives rig the game to allow themselves to siphon off enormous amounts of cash, claim it's all the fault of the progressive/liberal excess.
Leave the wreckage for the p/l side of the equation to repair the damage, so the conservatives can run their scenario yet again...
Meanwhile, the status of any or all nations is subject to this cycle that generally degrades all of the societies involved. This leads to conflicts, both political and physical (a.k.a., 'wars'), that leads to poisoning any attempts to 'get everyone on the same page' to keep from trashing the planet.
That's just ducky... :( |