I forgot to mention the Aperion Novus has a plug on the back which, when removed, reduces the treble by 3db. They'll also be offering these in gloss black soon.
Can recommend some non-fatigue SMALL bookshelf for near-field listening?
Hi guys,
I have been searching for a pair of small passive speakers for near-field listening for a long long time. Ideally, something with <27 cm depth would be a great fit. A relaxed/non-fatigue/good bass sound would be preferred.
I tried these.
B&W 607s2 -- currently using -- can be aggressive/bright quite often
Dynaudio Evoke 10 --- pronounced at 2-5 kHz, sounds thin to me.
LS 50 meta ---- bass a bit tide... need some volume to sound good.
Can you guys recommend some other speakers that can do the job? What about Mission QX1 MkII or Wharfedale Denton 80? My amp is Nad c275bee with a Schiit freya+ preamp. Thanks a lot guys!
Thanks all! Sorry for my late update, but I have been doing quite some research re. the suggestions. Checking the frequency response/review/home demo. I did a home demo of KEF R3, and I found they are still a bit bright, and I set a roll-off from 4kHz - 20KHz, ~ -0 to -10 dB. Yes, rolling off the upper-mid and treble of the KEF R3 would be what I am looking for. I would have kept the R3s but they are just too big for near-field. Now I can really narrow the options to be more specific. - A rolled-off upper-mid to treble sound. (if say kef r3 is nature, then I need a really dark one). - Not forward vocal (this can rule out many great classic speakers) - laidback sound stage - <27 cm depth - okish bass (50Hz -3dB). Guys, it seems nothing is left now. Maybe evoke 10 or Elac solano, or maybe I should give up...... ;-) |
The best nearfield speakers I’ve ever heard were Wilson Audio Tune Tots, but they are very expensive compared to most. I bought a pair after listening to them and I don’t usually care for the sound of small speakers. Harbeth is always a safe bet and good value. Absolutely add a subwoofer so you don’t drive your neighbors crazy turning it up to try and get some bass. A nearfield sub can really rock your world without bothering the neighbors. Despite what salesmen say about their small speakers with big bass do yourself a favor and offload the low frequencies to a subwoofer so your mains can reproduce the frequencies that they do accurately. Your ears and your neighbors will thank you |
There are a couple of pairs of the Platinum Audio Solo for sale right now here on Agon. This would likely be a leap of faith as most are unaware. I have the floor standing Quattro of this series and loved them for about 15 years until moving to my Wilsons. The Platinums are power hungry but I suspect your 150wpc would suffice in a reasonable space. Their bass from the 4.5 in driver is unbelievably accurate and deep. Take a look! https://www.stereophile.com/standloudspeakers/1195platinum/index.html |
P3ESR XD is reported to sound brighter than the original P3ESR. I would vote P3ESR for your requirement. Anything warmer than this the treble would be rolled off and sound pretty dead. Sonus Faber older models such as Concertino or Concerto also sound warm. However, the main difference between Sonus Faber warm and Harbeth warm is in clarity and detail. Although the Harbeth sounds warm, the clarity and detail are quite good. It's more transparent than the Sonus Faber. With the SF, you lose detail which in turn affects clarity. The result is you appear to be listening to the speakers with a thick blanket covering it. |
When I first heard the Harbeths, it stopped me dead in my tracks. The P3esr xd has gone thru a major redesign, with crossovers and drivers. |
I was going to suggest the Buchardt A500 since you can't have a subwoofer and want bass. But your budget and available room for speakers are mutually exclusive to your performance goals. Within your budget, sacrificing deep bass, check out the Vienna Acoustics Haydn or the Harbeth P3ESR. You might be able to squeeze a small subwoofer in somewhere later on. Perhaps something tiny like the KEF KC62. |
[please excuse my poor English] Given you requirements: => Harbeth P3esr (or P3esr XD, but slightly more defined) WHY? - because P3esr are closed speakers (no reflex-ported), they are insensitive to the room acoustics. I heard 2 pairs in the same house, but in 2 very different rooms; I was struck how similar to each other they sounded. - because they fit the bill, depth wise. - because they sound positively terrific, especially near-field, and with acoustic music (but also other genres). |
The Harbeth P3 is my favorite stand mount! And I don’t use a subwoofer! (1) Harbeth P3ESR Review! - Bing video
Another review!!
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If you’re expecting only around 10 inches deep, probably not going to find any serious amount of bass extension. However, some small form speakers these days are pretty amazing relative to size. But if you’re expecting more oomph than what you’ve already encountered in what you’ve already tried you might need a sub hidden somewhere. Just the same… I was thinking Totem Mites or Silverline Minuets. Both can be found used a a very reasonable price at even just a few years old, but do not extend very deep. Tonally speaking, definite +1 for Harbeth!
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