You’re probably over-thinking it. Or should I say over-stinking it?
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Live classical certainly has air coming from instruments a voice in sensitive and well designed concert halls. It is the interplay between musical production of sound and ambient resonance and timbre. The recital hall at Middlebury College, which theTokyo Quartet called the finest chamber music hall on the east coast, is one. Symphony Hall in Boston is another. |
^^^ nonsense The OP says in his profile "I saw a holographic sound stage at a guys home about 20 yrs ago.It seemed as though you could walk between or stand behind the performers.No one believes me" Come on over. I’ve had holographic systems for 40+ years. The PSB Imagine T2 will never image properly. Do the math on arrival and reflections from 3 woofers below 500Hz. The woofers have horrible resonances right in the middle of the mid-range. See Fig 3 https://www.stereophile.com/content/psb-imagine-t2-tower-loudspeaker-measurements Also see Fig 7. There is no step response, so the time is confused. |
When they went all digital TV they lost the air that was there in abundance with the analog signal, a huge spacious soundstage, especially noticeable on live football 🏈 baseball ⚾️ and olympics ⛷ broadcasts. Very similar to the difference between tape and CD, now that I think about it. Tape breathes, it’s a natural medium. When you can breathe you get more...air. 🤗 |
Great answer by @folkfreak regarding setup of a system. And air can only be heard if it's in the recording. @ieales provides good comments about studio recording. The "air" and sense of space is artificially created by the engineer. But in a venue such as a church or the Musikverein concert hall there is natural reverb. But the end result of "air" and space on the recording is created by natural and artificial reverb, and only with proper mic'ing of acoustic instruments. |
How do you get air around instrumentsDo you mean get the speakers to disappear? Get better speakers. Most speakers have horrendous time coherence. As a former recording engineer, I can tell you that there is no 'air' in the studio. In good rooms like Paramount, Sky Walker, Hit Factory, Oceanway, Capital A, etc. an acoustic guitar or piano sound much as it does in a small club. |
Old Chinese saying: "If want to learn much, first read what has already been said." (It also may help to define your terms, outside horticulture.) https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/recommendations-for-improving-visceral-impact/post?highlight=air%2Bionizer&postid=1712871#1712871 and probably many, many other posts, through the years. |
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That’s what the hobby is all about. There is no single answer. Air, sweetness, liquid-ness, soundstage, transparency, bass slam, they’re all part and parcel of signal to noise + distortion ratio S/N+D for which there is no substitute. Get your mind in gear and your ass will follow. - old audiophile axiom |
Firstly it has to exist on the recording -- minimally miked recordings of acoustic instruments in defined spaces are best Secondly careful control of room acoustics to manage reflections and let you hear through to the original recording Thirdly careful control of vibration throughout the system to avoid the interferences from that source And finally be careful that what you are hearing is not an artificial "bloom" or halo that some components (particularly some tube designs) impart -- while attractive it is a coloration -- the same can also occur if the mid range is boosted in some instances, some instruments can suddenly appear to "pop" but again this is a coloration Finally if you are hearing lots of isolated instruments hanging in space in their own pockets of air this is either a) a system derived coloration or b) a design choice by the recording producer, but in either case is artificial. What you are ideally looking for is a collection of instruments/performers clearly related to one another in space. I find well recorded string quartets to be a great way of telling if you are getting the former or the latter -- the isolated and emphasised sound is very attractive, but it's not true to life |