Yes without a doubt......
are 4000$ /pr speakers today better than $4000/pr speakers from mid to late 1990's?
or 5k or 2k or 10k??
back then i was in love with:
thiel cs3.6,, cs 2 2s, 7s and even owned a pair of 1.6swilson audio tiny tots and watt puppiesapogee grandsb&w matrix 802's and 801'sb&w silver signatures - but for some things not everything
so lets say you could get 801's for $5500/pr back then, is a $5000/pr b&w today as good as the 801's then?
thanks.
ps - i do know that now my ears are probably not as good as they were when i was younger.
back then i was in love with:
thiel cs3.6,, cs 2 2s, 7s and even owned a pair of 1.6swilson audio tiny tots and watt puppiesapogee grandsb&w matrix 802's and 801'sb&w silver signatures - but for some things not everything
so lets say you could get 801's for $5500/pr back then, is a $5000/pr b&w today as good as the 801's then?
thanks.
ps - i do know that now my ears are probably not as good as they were when i was younger.
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My kef r105/3 circa 1990 listed for $3500. Played flat 50-15k 3” Thick front baffle, 93 dB eff, excellent dispursion and went LOUD. Detail, soundstage and imaging still benchmark. I would have to spend 4 times as much for the same product today and the only difference would be automotive finish instead of walnut. |
@gdnrbob — I’m just going by what I hear. I never liked the metal dome tweets and yellow Kevlar drivers used by B&W in the 90’s and beyond, and I find the Diamond tweeters and Continuum drivers to sound much cleaner and better as implemented in the current D3 models. I’m not really a B&W fan, but I could live with the current 804 D3 and could definitely not say the same of the earlier 804N models. Likewise, and as per the OP’s original question, I’d absolutely take a pair of 805 D3s over a 90’s era 803N. That’s kinda where I was coming from FWIW, but to each his own. |
wow so here's some comments directly related to my post: in a 2015 review of paradigm prestige speakers. https://www.stereophile.com/content/paradigm-prestige-95f-loudspeaker |
I like this^^^^. I did start buying up class A speakers from the 90's since they're finally affordable and reviewers of that time could really write a story. The more exotic the speakers get the more finicky they get regarding amplification so it's very possible a properly matched system from the 90's could out perform a state of the art speaker from today unless you're able to keep working to find the right components. The amp I bought that transformed the Salon 1 didn't perform the same magic on the salon 2 so even though the reviewer said the salon 2 was better in every way, in my system, n ot so much. Have fun and buy used. |
Here is something interesting. In the last ten years i have owned Devore, Audio Note, Harbeth, B&W, KEF, Tekton DI`s and Magico speakers with prices ranging from 4k to 19k and while all were good to very good i was never 100% happy. Recently i came across a nice pair of Wilson Watt Puppy 5.1`s for 4k and i will tell you in my home and paired to my system the 20 year old 4k(todays used price) Wilsons out perform all of the above mentioned speakers. I know 20 years ago the Wilsons were something like 17k but at todays used prices they are out performing some of todays new 17k speakers. |
Inflation! The U.S. dollar experienced an average inflation rate of 2.09% per year during this period, causing the real value of a dollar to decrease. In other words, $4,000 in 2000 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $6,045.99 in 2020, a difference of $2,045.99 over 20 years. The 2000 inflation rate was 3.36%. |
The roughly $4k Moabs I just bought are way better than the $16k speakers from the 90's they replaced. Not even close. Bear in mind the Tekton MTM speakers are exceptional value. But I would be shocked if even average $4k speakers today aren't much better than the best from back then. You are after all talking 30 years. It would be incredible if they haven't gotten a lot better. |