Why don’t more members post their systems in their profile?


I’m always surprised, and a little saddened, at the number of members who don’t bother to post details and pictures of their own systems in their profile.  This is often where I learn the most, providing straightforward, data-centric information. We have contributors, posting nearly daily, pontificating even, but don’t demonstrate or show-off their own setups.  To me, seeing one’s system is part of their overall audiophile bona fides. What are the reasons so many folks don’t share their own systems with this community?

Respectfully, GE

gemoody

There’s a limited chance anyone would find my mass ’attractive’, nor the space it occupies as anywhere near nominal.
However, since the near future will scatter portions of it ’twixt the old ’here’ and a new ’there’, I've got a period of time approaching that I'm going to disappear for it.

...stop cheering...I heard that.  I didn't note not returning, no...😏

Some recent additions for a deeper dive into what I’m about has the opportunity to ’archive’ audibly what it sounds/sounded like as best as practical, if only for my grins.
From that point on, I’ll accept being classified as ’rarified’ or just certifiable...

Keep your fingers crossed for me; mine will be too occupied.... ;)
Of course, pics.....*sheesh*

@viridian 

You make a good point about posters with a wider range of experience of hifi in say retailing. There’s nothing to stop anyone putting these things in the system details or comments if they wish.

Nevertheless, it is extremely helpful to know how posters are listening to music. It’s not so such a matter of credibility as being useful to know where they are coming from. It is very interesting to know how combinations of gear are put together in practice.

Yet, there is an element of showing you've got some skin the game. We can see that from threads such as What's your commitment to vinyl. I guess if you're wanting your views to be taken seriously, people are entitled to ask.

One of the biggest music and hifi forums insists posters declare their own systems, if they are going to comment on sound quality.

I find it frustrating that some members make pertinent contributions in discussions, yet I can’t relate it to a real system. Sometimes, people talk about an item of gear they own, but we have little idea of the context in which it is being used.

From my own point of view, documenting my system gives me a greater understanding of it and how it might develop in future. How can others help me in this, if I don’t give them full information?

I may be a tech troglodyte. My tech abilities prohibit me updating my upgrades.  My virtual (silly me I thought it was actual my system in pics) is as as old as Methuselah. Pretty much none of the components in the pics are in my room any longer. :(

I had my system posted - albeit without pictures - but now it's disappeared from my profile - I think.

I've done my part.

I highly recommend others do too.

When their system is not listed, I take their advice or recommendation with a much bigger grain of salt.

 

I would happily post pictures of my system if I could figure out how. However, a poster's system does not change his credibility in my eyes one way or another.

I change gear too often. It would not be practical for me, I would rather listen to music or surf the ads. And I have only been here for 25 years, so there is plenty more time.

I’m not sure that it really speaks to experience anyway, I have worked for nine different audio retailers and moderated a couple of audio forums. To me, that speaks to experience more than what I own at the moment does. But really, it doesn’t tell you what real gear sounds like in a real room any more than a picture, or video, does.

If you have a person that has a fantastic system, but does not have experience with other gear and doesn’t go to shows, dealers, or is not a member of a club, well that base of experience is somewhat limited. But just like me, this is an open forum and I don’t care about other member’s sadness and what bona fides legitimize anyone’s opinions, I would rather just hear what they have to say, YMMV.

You convinced me to add my system. Why hadn’t I previously? In part because it was always changing. 

As individuals are Colour Prejudiced (Not Race) they are also Aesthetic - Brand and Product Prejudiced.

Giving a broad range of individuals direct access to witness through photos choices that have been made for an audio system and the set up selected by an individual.

Where the observer of a photo is not to receive a description of an impression made by a device the individual is using and shown in a photo, is a sure fire way to commence any further without there being a risk of a negative.

Systems are not typically the same as an assembly across users of audio equipment. The Space allocated for the System is definitely not Typical for users of audio equipment .

The Synergy that can develop between devices being introduced and the quality of the End Sound produced within a dedicated space are not going to be identified within a Photo.   

Showing Items that are from a bygone era or commission built and only able to be understood if sat in front of and being experienced in use, is not going to cut it as a photo evidence of the devices in a assembly to produce a audio system. The unusual aspect of the devices seen will in many cases not be an attractor.

Assessing audio equipment through images is not going to supply to an individual a guidance to a set up they may find is to their satisfaction, unless a particular aesthetic is the main goal for the audio system, and designs used by others is being investigated. 

I stopped using commercial media to learn about audio equipment more than 25 years ago, I walked away from Photos and Spiel about products that were very flowery as a description and follow up experiences left one feeling what was read was not quite accurate.

Close to 30 years ago, I chose to meet with individuals who were like minded to get my extended experience of audio. In certain cases, I was to meet with individuals who were much much more adept than myself where it comes to audio.

My Mentors were met, their Concepts described , their Work Experienced, and a personal system commenced to be built that has been a constant, and built on as a design for a system across a 30ish Years period.

The bulk of items superseded are not parted with, and are available to be used, the system is listened to in the guises it was once and new guises to keep it fresh as a experience of produced End Sound.

A photo can't tell such a story.

My system is posted. I know from comments in posts that a few people have looked at it, but that's about it. 

I do look at people's system.  When people render an opinion on gear (good or bad) it's helpful to know the type of system it's being evaluated in. 

it’s very simple why more don’t post their systems. 

7-8 years ago Audiogon removed the system comment activity from the regular thread queue sequence and placed them below all the non system posting threads. so members must scroll down below the other subject threads to even see that there are systems or comments on systems. 

this mostly eliminated system comments or greatly reduced the incentive to post systems or comment. many members basically abandoned updating their systems or paying attention to system listings at all. or moved away from Audiogon. system’s were no longer a big focus.

system owners won’t go to the trouble to post their system if there is not attention given to their system.

why did Audiogon do that? hard to say, but my guess is that it changed the power in the forum from system owners to commercial efforts. it’s a business after all.

is there an element of people not wanting others to know about what they do or don’t have? that’s a minor issue which might have some basis. but it’s not really what is going on.

if system activity was listed the same as regular threads system posting focus would explode. back in the golden age of Audiogon that was were it was at. you would see serious focus on system posting activity and lots of learning and system focus. and system comments are much more friendly and positive so it builds the community.....and relationships. i met some of my very good friends from system posting activity.....but not any more.

I've never posted my system online, but was doxxed here once and it was a mess.

gemoody

To me, seeing one’s system is part of their overall audiophile bona fides.

Please feel free to discount my contributions to whatever extent pleases you. It makes no difference to me.

.....check the history here as this has been covered and discussed in the past. Theft and or B&O was a big deterrent for some and must agree.  

I agree. If I read an interesting post, one that does not reveal quite enough about their background for me to understand how to interpret it. I go to their virtual systems. They get a lot of credibility just by having one, and lots more because I can see where they are coming from. The kind and blend of components shows their experience level and a lot about their personality. 

Then you just learn stuff about how many different combinations there are... it goes on and on. 

So, I would definitely like to encourage everyone to post their systems as virtual systems. 

Also, adding photos is simple there... that is the only place where adding photos is easy. You don't have to clean up your room... we are not teen agers. Just pull out your phone, take some photos from different perspectives and of components and do it!