When the funds in my account disappeared... |
Interesting discussion. I heard my speakers totally disappear at the dealers, whom I visited many times before committing to the $$. I could not afford to bring the whole system home, but I got the speakers and an amazing pre/amp combo. Sometimes in the last 1.5 years since I brought the system home the speakers would disappear. I've been working at speaker positioning, power cables, sorting the room, isolation, cable lifters, etc.
Recently got an EtherREGEN and can say that now the speakers disappear on any good material. You can just stand in the stage. It is truly amazing how much the ER brought to the game, or really, removed. It has isolated all the grunge that was riding in on my newly installed 300mbs fiber line that was just installed in the neighborhood in the last six months. The ER is the best upgrade yet, and less than $700 delivered. So if you stream, check it out. I am now looking at purchasing an upgraded JS-2 linear power supply for the ER. Power is very important, like all things in audio.
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It happened when I added an Audio Research LS10 preamp to my system. The result was an immediate effect of shock and awe. It has only gotten better over the years as I've moved up the chain of Audio Research preamps. |
Not surprised that this happened when you upgraded power supplies. But simply adding an AC filter choke also will help in that area. Better capacitors and resistors will also help a system disappear. Much cheaper than cables, and all the other tweaks, etc.
Happy Listening. |
When I switched to my current Rethm Saadhana speakers. I thought I already had it for years but these speakers took it to another level completely. Now, I have listerners who have never heard any audio systems in their life, just look stunned and shock at the image in the middle, completely outside and free of the 2 speaker cabinets. They're always complimenting about how the music is beautiful, realistic, with real presence plus a believable soundstage and image.
Before, my system appealed to audiophiles but first time listeners might be impressed but not quite enthralled. Now they just sit and want me to play their favourite tune after tune.
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^^^ Yes, it is truly amazing when the speakers not only disappear, but when your room morphs into the recording venue.
Frank Put more on the internal speaker wires, and wrapped them in Mats. Have to be careful, with so much covered not to create a short. Lotta work getting in there but Holy moley! |
My very first audiophile system that I ever had disappeared.
1979
Kenwood L07C
Gas Grandson of Ampzilla
Kenwood KD500 table
Audio Technica AT 1010 tonearm
Goldring cart
Technics SB-7070 Speakers (check these out online)
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It still happens only rarely. Yeah, I don't have the power or componentry to virtually put me in an actual concert hall, large club or sports venue like the Inglewood Forum, but I can achieve a convincing aura of real life when I put on a small jazz, ethnic or classical chamber ensemble.
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When Did Your System Disappear? When I got divorced |
Mkgus
The sound became totally detached from the speakers when I first put the Bel Canto ref1000m Class D amps in the system. Not nearly to that extent with prior SS amps. |
mkgus,
I think that this is an excellent subject for a thread. My own system is far from what would be considered state of the art, but after paying attention to the rack, additional vibration control/draining and especially speaker stands, I normally have the feeling that my speakers are just sitting there doing nothing. I pay very little attention to them because as you said, the music just seems to float in the air, free of the speakers.
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I am still getting there. Recently by making and adding room treatments the improvement has not been subtle. Thank you for your post because power conditioning is next up on my list and being tight on budget is making this a challenge. |
Not first but completely when my current Class D amps went online. It was very disorienting at first. What do you mean by this? Is this a reference to burn in / settling in? |
When I fixed the room.
+1 GIK
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RoomAcoustics...biggest change I’ve noticed in imaging and dynamics when I added room treatments last year from GIK Acoustics. |
Not first but completely when my current Class D amps went online. It was very disorienting at first. |
Its been years since my speakers disappeared. Its been months since my room disappeared. Now its more holodeck than listening room. Last night we were in London, the Tchaikovsky was to die for.
I like this description. Good music really can teleport you.
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^^^ Yes, it is truly amazing when the speakers not only disappear, but when your room morphs into the recording venue.
Frank |
There was a definite change.... with speakers, speaker cables, Cones, IC, PC, HFT, ECT, TC, O-Mats and E-cards, and especially FC. Oh and fo.Q. Got a few more to do today, thanks for reminding me. Its been years since my speakers disappeared. Its been months since my room disappeared. Now its more holodeck than listening room. Last night we were in London, the Tchaikovsky was to die for. |
This happened to my system 3 years ago with MAGICO speakers. |
I thought my system was there ... and then I wired the Perfect Path Technologies "The Gate" to a breaker in the circuit breaker box. That, and other PPT products like TC and the Omega "Plus" Mats have completed the job. The system is uncanny. Even shocking at times.
Unfortunately, PPT is no longer in business.
Frank
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