Whats on your turntable tonight?

@puffball08 aka Daniel in Orange county has been cutting trail w Degritter process. He has evolved a three step method w spinclean step, then a Turgitol cycle in degritter followed by a water only cycle. He has also been in direct contact w Degritter on duty cycle and taking some readings of temps as machine operates in various above cycles across a 8 or so record batch. Supercool.

Jim

My plan is to do an initial Enzyme step with my wet vac Nitty Gritty then the  Next 2 steps same as Daniel. The excellent sonic test of sending 16 discs to Perfect Vinyl Forever pushed me into pulling trigger on US cleaning…. And of course a lot of +++ influence from Steve along the way..best thread on AG

Jim

@mammothguy54  I’ve been doing the 2 tank cleaning method with the Degritter since I purchased the gadget last April.  Takes twice the time but worth it in the end.
I do groups of records, like 8~16 at a time.  After the Tergitol bath, I use a bamboo dish rack to store the records upright between bathes.  After finishing the group, I switch the tank to distilled water and run the records through again for a rinse.

Regarding Tergitol, I’ve found that using more than 0.7ml of the concentrate in the Degritter tank (1.4l) leads to suds coming out of the slot-not a good thing.

daniel

That was one of my issues in the beginning. Wanting to put more cleaner than I needed. I had very good results with just distilled water.

I've had my Degritter since last March.  I have been doing research for a while now on Tergitol, the proper mixture, application, pre-cleaning methods, etc.  I also have a Nitty Gritty so for used records that too lends a helping hand in a multi-step process.  I'll reach out for further information, as needed, etc.

What an awesome group of people here on this thread.  I learn so much.  I also hope to be able to contribute some, too.

The Great Culling - Part Deux continues. Building up a pile/crate to take for sale/trade to a couple of LRS.

Joni Mitchell - "Court and Spark"

Asylum EQ-1001 - QUAD!

Love the record, but this copy isn’t doing it for me. THink I’ll dump it and look for a better copy.

Dire Straits / S-T
1978 Warner Bros.
Fabulous record, amazing SQ

@slaw 

Wanting to put more cleaner than I needed.
 

Steve, I went through the same thing initially.  However, I was overlooking the fundamental purpose of the Tergitol.  It’s not the Tergitol doing the cleaning, it’s the microscopic imploding bubbles that do the cleaning.  The surfactant, in this case Tergitol, is there to reduce the surface tension of the “water-air” interface on the surface of the record.  Reducing the surface tension allows the bubbles more and better access into the grooves of the record, the whole object of the exercise.

The trick has been to find just the right amount of surfactant to get a good cleaning but not generate suds or leave too much residue behind after drying.

Definitely a work in progress.

daniel

Van Morrison - "Beautiful Vision"

I concur Daniel. You explained it more eloquently that I could.😊

I use the surfactant Audio Desk recommends. It’s more expensive than a pint of Tergitol but a vial is added to a gallon of distilled H2O and will clean 100-200 records. My AD tank holds a smidge over a gallon.
The surfactant is biodegradable, anti-static, alcohol free, odorless and doesn’t “suds up” or leave a residue. I’m only mentioning so you know an alternative. Happiness is a clean and quiet LP spinning on the phonograph, any way you get there.

The Wonderful Sounds of Female Vocals / 4 sides
2018 Analogue Productions 

Gerry Mulligan ‎– The Concert Jazz Band (Verve 1960)

Traffic - John Barleycorn Must Die  A very good PP copy.

Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound  Also, a very good PP copy which I bought as soon as it was released.

Robert Plant / Alison Krauss - Raise The Roof

Michael Franks - Tiger In The Rain   Direct-Disc Labs did a superb job on this album.

Joel,

Is your copy of Raise the Roof noisy at all? Mine is between tracks

Steve - My copy has some noise on side 2

Bill - thanks for the Audio Desk surfactant tip. More options is good. The relatively small Degritter tank will i believe lead to easy experiments…..

Arrival and playing soon;

Aiofe O’Donovan - Age of Apathy

I have been streaming some Fats Kaplin warming up the amp…..

Back from Sin City and happy to see my dog, girlfriend, and a pile of records that were delivered while I was gone (not necessarily in that order). April Wine - The Nature of the Beast

It's either the dog or the records that fall into first place🤣

Steve, my copy is fairly quiet with just a little surface noise between songs.  That's not an issue at all.  However, the overall SQ seems to have a veil over it, a bit "muffled" so to speak.  Not nearly as clear or open as many other records.  It's good, but certainly not really good.  

perhaps the SOTA is girlfriend..ha

Let's just keep that between us guys Joel! 

Jeff Beck - Truth

Tony McPhee – The Two Sides Of Tony (T.S.) McPhee (WWA 1973)

I use a few drops of Triton X100 in the US tank. Always rinse in the SpinClean. 

Marlena Shaw – Sweet Beginnings (Columbia 1977)

a surfeit of surfactant…….

Picked up several albums this past weekend - here's the one I'm listening to now:

Mannheim Steamroller - Fresh Aire II

Url: https://www.discogs.com/release/14447721-Mannheim-Steamroller-Fresh-Aire-II

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Joe Williams , Dave Lambert (3) , Jon Hendricks , Annie Ross Plus The Basie Band* - Sing Along With Basie

Url: https://www.discogs.com/release/8954463-Joe-Williams-Dave-Lambert-3-Jon-Hendricks-Annie-Ross-Plus-The-Basie-Band-Sing-Along-With-Basie

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Nat King Cole - Those Lazy-Hazy-Crazy Days Of Summer

Url: https://www.discogs.com/release/10667370-Nat-King-Cole-Those-Lazy-Hazy-Crazy-Days-Of-Summer

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Grand Funk Railroad / Grand Funk
1969 Capitol 

Steve Miller Band / Anthology
1972 Capitol

Mike + The Mechanics / S-T
1985 Atlantic

Ace / Five A Side
1974 Anchor

Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms.  Haven't listened to this in a while, such a great album.  Need to thin the herd, I have 4 copies.  I'll keep the MFSL and Quiex II promo copy for sure, the other two are probably on their way to the castaway bin.

New arrivals just run through the Spin Clean:

Kansas - Monolith OP

Keith Jarrett- Paris Concert ECM (Germany)

ECM Presents (Sampler) 1984 Metheny, Jarrett, Abercrombie & DeJohnette

Cat Stevens- Teaser and the Firecat 1995 MFSL Original Master Recording

Nels Cline & Eric von Essen - Elegies

ya James !

Nils Lofgren - Acoustic Live

Recommendation from @reubent - thanks!

I streamed > I liked > I purchased 

Just arrived,

Eva Cassidy "Live @ Blues Alley"

25th Anniversary/dbl lp/45rpm

Miles Davis "Kind of Blue"

UHQR/AP

Neil Young & Crazy Horse "Barn"

@nicks25  - Enjoy! Great sound quality on that Nils Lofgren record...

^^^
Indeed

The Great Culling - Part Deux continues.....

The Roches - S/T

Into the sell/trade pile it goes. Not sure why I bought this one in the first place, although the song - "Hammond" is pretty catchy. Also don't quite understand why Fripp and Levin were associated with this record. Personal relationships possibly?

Bonnie Raitt - "Home Plate"

On the fence about this one. Haven't listened to it in a very long time. It's better than I remember. That girl can sing, that's for sure. Susan Tedeschi's solo albums remind me of this...

Neil Young - "Harvest"

I have two copies, neither in great condition. One is definitely going in the sell/trade pile. Maybe both...

Traffic - "John Barleycorn Must Die"

Keeper - Back on the shelf when I'm done....

Yes - "Tales From Topographic Oceans"

OK, haven't listened to this one in probably 35-40 years. Was a big fan of Yes back in the day. Bought this 1973 release from their back catalog sometime around 1979. Didn't really like it then. Let's see how it goes... It's a double LP, so it might close out the night for me.

Godspeed You! Black Emperor / Allelujah 

Blues Control / Valley tangents 

@boxer12 

Godspeed You! Black Emperor / Allelujah 

A really interesting band.  I’ve been streaming their G_d's Pee At State's End!, from last spring, with attentive enjoyment.   

@spiritofradio +1 

Blues Control / Local flavor 

@slaw 

That’s some most excellent ordering Steve.   Hope you get to play them soon.  

big stack of 45s on my twin technics tonight. low rider oldies, doo wop, forgotten boogie and deep soul cuts. most fun ive had in weeks

Nice td_dayton! That's what it's about, enjoying the music you love!

Jerusalem In My Heart / Qalaq