@jerryrocks your post made me listen to it and look up the lyrics .
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@jerryrocks weed, whites and wine. If you are quoting Willin by Little Feat. |
"To respond to the ops actual question, for ultimate enjoyment, being able to share it with other people. When you are your death bed, are you going to remember back fondly to that time you were sitting in your basement, alone, listening to a great track? Unlikely and I hope not" Personally, I hope my capacity for enjoying any type of creative expression never becomes dependent upon whomever else happens to be in the room.
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I am going to say amplification. Sure , speakers are crucial . But how many of us can afford or have the space for our dream speaker? My Zesto pre and Toolshed Amps 300b have definitely elevated my system to audio nirvana. Anyone with preconceived notions of Klipsch Forte IV would be quite surprised how they sound driven by great equipment. While not my end game speaker they are pretty satisfying until that day arrives . |
@cd318 - indeed there are some decent releases from the 80's, but there are bands like Midnight Oil, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Metallica, and loads of others whose mid-80's released CD's are horrible - low volume and compressed to death. Fortunately re-masters have come out of all of these.... |
The media is the largest changing variable in how any system performs. IMHO
I’d agree also. There’s a huge market in reissues and remastering, and just once in a while, they get it right. I’m not sure about classical releases but with pop, more often than not, the original CD issues from the 1980s still remain the best. A good example is the Beatles, where more or less everything after Revolver is best found on the original 1987 releases. With classical, I suspect that since far more care was taken of the original recording quality, subsequent remastering is usually less of a concern. |
small pre-birthday dinner party last night 5 of us actively picking favorites from my cd/sacd collection for 4 hrs. what a mixed bag, what a blast. am I the only person who mentioned sharing the music with friends? (as produced by our wonderfully assembled systems). my new to me Sony xa5400es player sounded awesome, and, I pushed the speakers back to make more room around the table and 'found' a very nice l/c/r distribution for several off center listeners. today I will compare it to my prior 'two person' toe-in position. |
To respond to the ops actual question, for ultimate enjoyment, being able to share it with other people. When you are your death bed, are you going to remember back fondly to that time you were sitting in your basement, alone, listening to a great track? Unlikely and I hope not. Sitting with a good friend, sipping some premium Scotch, and enjoying tunes .... quite possibly. I would rather make memories than pass the time. |
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At that point will I even care? I'll just leave it to the next generation of audiophiles who hopefully will enjoy it as much as I did. OP for me the most important is the enjoyment. Whether it be the music, the technical aspect, or the friends I meet along the way. Sometimes it brings me pleasure, sometimes it brings me sorrow but I enjoy it all just the same. |
oh no - it's not like that at all ... for Sergio it makes no difference who is in front of him: an American, a Spaniard or a Russian - he looks at what kind of person he is! I traveled half the world (not as a tourist) - lived in different countries - I have the opportunity to compare ... |
I have no more issue with the average Russian than I do with the average Chinese person. They are victim of decades of abuse and propaganda from their own governments. In my travels, I have found that every day Russians and Chinese people are more like us than a lot of people from other countries. Russia as a monolith I have no sympathy for, but I think any person using common sense is the same. |
@theaudioamp , coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't really give one an out on that. As for what it has to do with audio, it was largely a jab at sergio, who hates Americans, is very sympathetic to Russia, and likes to crap on threads after he took a drubbing for his stance on an older thread that went sideways. All the best, |
Except @nonoise, the Jewish genetic deviation is one of the lowest of any races, and in theory in the time of the bible, at least Jesus, could have been Ashkenazi, who by the most recent genetic studies have a predominantly European genetic lineage maternally, and middle eastern paternal lineage (which can often be fair skinned). So who is to stay whether people in the Bible were white, olive, brown, black or whatever. A significant portion would have been fairer skinned, and a significant portion likely more olive/light brown, but even if genetically fairer skinned, their genetic lineage, coupled with lack of sunscreen would have resulted in a deep tan on observed skin. But the bigger question of course is what the heck that has to do with audio let alone this conversation? When were philes ever big on facts? |
What a sensible statement.
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@serjio Soul as it applies to music or how it touches our emotions is certainly not superficial. Soul as it applies to religion is the superficial, always rating one soul as superior to another, anger and hate, wars, blah, blah, blah. One belongs here, the other save it for rabble forums, tons of those around. |
I am reminded at this time that: - Atheists have lower rates of unwanted pregnancy - Atheists have higher rates and more thoughts of altruism - Democratic countries with more Atheists have much better social safety nets, i.e. they consider it more important to take care of their fellow humans - Democratic countries with more Atheists take better care of the environment - This is an audio site. People should take their religion, and other issues somewhere else or I will fill the need to remind them of their and their beliefs flaws.
@firstgrowth , the comments may be in jest, but obviously some have access to higher quality than others. |
audio - this is what a person eats ... you suggest discussing food and ignoring its effect on the body ??? very superficial look ... think about it . I did not deviate one iota from the essence of the branch (which is the most important thing) ... or are you, unlike me, going to take wire amplifiers and tonearms with you to eternity ??? - something tells me you won't succeed ((( |
Religion and politics, blah, blah, blah. Sometimes I'm not sure I'm in audio forum or some other rabble forum where anger passes for discourse. This thread not too angry yet, but I sense may go that course.
@serjio Soul has it's place in audio, just not in religious context or on this thread. I've been on this site since beginning, most veterans have left due to this morphing off into provocative subjects having nothing to do with audio. Goal of provocateurs is to take over entire forum, make every thread about them and whatever grievance bothers them most at the very moment of post. No end of those grievances. Provocateurs like candles, come on here, burn brightly for short time, then disappear. |
@bobpyle you are correct. Sadly we cannot stick to what is the sole common thing amongst us. |
it's funny that you broke down on the most important post that was possible to find ((( America (the headquarters of Satan on the planet Earth) is not the place where it is worth mentioning religion - this is not a priori here. But there are many people (naive or overconfident) who think they know something about this subject (strange - they have never seen it, but they know everything) ... Veterans of the hobby have long since left the site, but that doesn't mean you can't learn something! Listen to what teenagers say (no matter how old they are and how much money they have) and do the opposite ))) |
Following a good start, I am disappointed that responses have now morphed into off-message posts that refer to drugs and religion. The angst between certain posters was not called for and not required. I have made 63 responses and 1 original post on this forum. It has taken me this much activity to realise that this forum is not for me. Thank you and goodbye, BP |
@serjio I think I understood you fine…
It is like he is playing a game with us, where the dice are loaded.
But I like all sorts of music, other than country and death metal… and I even do not mind some country music. |
@holmz I see that you didn’t understand me (my fault - I picked up the wrong words, metaphors) ... In fact, everything is pragmatic - in the context of the "devil" - these are mental, physical and moral deviations, degeneration, lack of development (evolution), stupidity , uncontrolled primitive emotions, and the worst option - a conscious feeling of pleasure - an attraction to all of the above. |
BS @serjio - Back before modern medicine when the good lord provided us with more disease opportunities and life expectancy was shorter, he at least gave us the hormonal drive to reproduce. And yet you are seeming to be saying that that drive he gave us is somehow a sin to overcome? If that is the case, then why did the good lord bless us with a problem, that is a test, and that we need to pass it to attain his love? It is almost as believable as a magical speaker cable. But thanks for looking out for us with your sage advice. I am not really interested in music labelled as the devils music or the lords music… nor what I should be listening for.
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@thecarpathian - gummies? I eat 200mg brownies! 👍😃 |
@larsman , lars, I think you need to give kob some of your gummies... |