Tube preamp for pass labs ?


I recently bought a brand new Pass Labs x250.8. It seems to be finally broke in after about 800 hours. I’m using a good preamp, the BAT VK-33se. I’m curious what other tube preamps others are using with this amp? 
one thing I did was bought inexpensive Wireworld stratus power cables on Sale for $116 shipped brand new for amp, preamp, dac, and server. They seem to have helped settle my system down quite a bit. I really like these inexpensive cords. 
but, again what tube preamps are you owners of the 250.8 using?

TIA for any info given. 
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Audio Research tube preamps pair well with Pass amps. Depends on your budget. 

Audio Research for sure. I have run an ARC with Pass amps for decades, until a few years ago when I switched to Audio Research amps.

The BAT is excellent….. i would look elsewhere in the system for improvement….

While not running a Pass anywhere your wattage, I have a Linear Tube Audio microZOTL level 2 with my XA25. It’s a great combination to my ears. The LTA is not as warm sounding as some other tube preamps, but is dynamic, great soundstage, and very natural sounding overall. The class A Pass has a bit of warmth to it (besides thermal), so they mate very well in my system.

I found after many tried. CAT SL1 mk3 Line Stage with upgraded caps & wiring. Still sounds as good as any, that’s why it’s still around and a winner! Pass needs a great tube preamp to hear its resolve. 

The next positive surprise and very musical with inner details are Allnic preamps  musical & smooth.  

 

Check out Aric Audio online. If interested follow up with a call. Great 6SN7 line stages. Tube rectified, point to point wired. Aric is great to deal with. 

I use one of his preamps with my Pass XA-25. 

There's a Rogue Audio 99 that was used with a Pass Labs XA 25 on Ebay for $1400 right now. You might ask the seller what he experienced with it.

Zestopreamps are amazing incredible build quality unbelievable feature set

 

True balanced design neutral with a bit of warmth huge soundstage 

 

Compares to preamps twice the price 

Dave and Troy

AUDIO INTELLECT NJ

ZESTO DEALERS 

 

 

 

 

 

I also enthusiastically recommend Aric Audio and his tube preamps! Hell, all his gear for that matter. Before moving to Coda, I paired The Motherlode with a pair of Pass XA60.8's and the results were amazing. I still have not replaced The Motherlode Preamp in my current reference rack, while all other components have turned over. Call him! His gear and customer service is exemplary in their offerings.

To my understanding, the Pass Labs amps support AES48, the balanced line standard. This standard has two benefits audiophiles might like. The first is that it prevents ground loops. The second is it prevents the interconnect cable introducing a sound of its own. This means an inexpensive cable can sound as good as one that cost $1000/foot.

But to get that benefit, the preamp must also support AES48. There are tube preamps that do this and a few solid state as well. IME most of the high end audio market is ignoring AES48 so you get this argument that single-ended operation can sound just as good as balanced. But when you hear a balanced setup done properly you find there's no going back.

Another fan of Aric Audio and Pass Labs.  I used the Aric Motherlode XL with my Pass X260.8 and XA60.8 amps.  I loved the sound so much that I now use Aric tube amps as well. Great build quality, sound, and customer service.

And one more nomination for Aric Audio. I have his Motherlode II paired with a First Watt J2. In my secondary system I have an older Aric Audio Unlimited paired with a First Watt F5. Both systems put a smile on my ears day after day.  Aric is really great to work with. 

@mesch 

The motherlode XL and Custom 300B Pset

My plan is to have the motherland go to both the 300B and my Luxman M10X.

At least until I decide the M10X is not needed.😁

@maxdukecapone Wow, great products. I am using the Super line stage with an earlier version of the Transcend amplifier. Will likely have the Transcend upgraded to the latest version.

What speakers are you using?

Don’t have experience with Pass but have been very happy with Cary SLP05.  BAT and AR are also great.  I don’t think you can wrong with any of these.  I went with Cary because of 6N’s and tube regulated power supply.  

It would be in your interests to investigate the Pass Designed Korg B1 Pre Amp.

I am familiar with this design used with both SS and Tube. It is a Pre' that has well documented upgrade options.

As the basic build it offers a substantial amount and has proven to be a showstopper when built with a compliment of upgrades.  

I have Pass 250.5 with Conrad-Johnson Premier 10 and 18. Excellent match. Driving the original Revel Salon Ultima.