The New Synergistic Research Purple Fuses
Hallelujah!!! It's the second coming. NO!! but wait!! I heard from the source there's a new Aqua SR fuse in the beta testing stage, can you confirm Frank?
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In the meantime, the system, thanks to the three well broken in SR Purple fuses, and some other unmentionables, is sounding better than ever. I invited Peter, Paul, and Mary over last night. It was as though I could reach out and touch them. Here’s a sample for your enjoyment. Egad, this even sounds great on my desktop Audioengine A2+ speakers.
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"I am happy that your $200 fuse made such an improvement in your system. Now take that one out and put in a $3 Littelfuse and re-evaluate. Chances are you won't hear a difference." I've done that. A couple of times, actually. I can absolutely hear a difference. If you'd like a demonstration, come on over and bring a six pack. We can swap cables back and forth, too. (Won't THAT blow your mind!) We'll make an afternoon of it.
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@coralkong I am happy that your $200 fuse made such an improvement in your system. Now take that one out and put in a $3 Littelfuse and re-evaluate. Chances are you won't hear a difference. The lack of any form of common-sense regarding boutique fuses is stunning. |
"I have to tell you that I submitted your lengthy, and somewhat ridiculous, review of the SR Purples to the "Audio Bullsh!t" group, and, so far, 36 commenters have made you quite the laughing stock."
Beautiful. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that I doubt very highly that @oregonpapa is going to stay up at night worrying about that.... Love my SR Purple fuse Best $200 upgrade I ever made. @jnorris2005 , your post above is one of the most astonishingly immature and childish things I have ever read. Guess you showed him, LOL! *shakes head* WOW.
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glory, Google this audiogon thread: Quantum Science Audio light blue fuse; $71, what a bargain! It’s one of the threads that the moderators took down for reasons some of us thought rather unfair. I’m still working on getting my SR Purp, but I do have 2 QSA Light Blue, if this is the fuse you’re talking about. It is very good. And some say it is/was better than the SR Orange. To my rig it sounded fantastic for only $71 bucks each. Is it better than the the SR Purp? Not according to oregonpapa, as he has compared the QSA Light Blue to the QSA Yellow at $213, and the QSA Yellow to the SR Purp at $200 and found them wanting compared to the SR Purp. And as others have mentioned here also.
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I am a relatively new audiophile and still very much learning how to listen and how to tweet, but I have been a fast study. The good news is that I am only 41, which I perceive is pretty young for this hobby. I think I have settled on my system components (for now), so just trying to learn about the differences fuses can make. The one question I am trying to understand is what fuses make the biggest impact? Do they follow the same rules as the power cables, seems the DAC/ Pre-amp was most beneficial to an upgraded cable. Or is it the mono block amplifiers where there is the most current flow. Also do people upgrade just the main power fuse, or any other “rail” fuses that may exist inside the boxes. TIA for answering my NOOB questions |
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The first time a had an experience with a fuse and learned what they do. I was five and this electrical socket kept calling me to stick a metal object into it. I did, the house went dark, and I hauled ass and I got as far away from that socket as possible. Later in life I learned, that fuse probably saved my life, and my ass. As Dad just thought a fuse blew and just replaced it with a new one. Routine to him at the time, but new to me...And Dad never found out. |
andypandy40 posts
And the only thing you get from these now from what I’ve been reading about them, is called "expectation bias" for your $200, and it’s what Atmasphere aptly calls them. Andy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe your taking what was said out of context. He was referring to a fuse swap in a power conditioner. It only makes sense. Why on earth would a fuse make a power conditioner work better, it’s almost an oxymoron. :-) There are places a circuit breaker need to be.. :-) AC does the Cha Cha towards the source, That’s all I need to know, EVEN though I know more.. I don’t give a hoot.. Keep your fingers out of light sockets. AND if you do stick your fingers in light sockets, would you please take a video and post it.. Thanks I really like stupid sometimes.. LOL |
audiolab 8000CDM CD transport Audio Note DAC Kit 1.1 DIY Hifi Supply Django Mini TVC pasive pre Antique Sound Lab Tulip 2A3 SET amp Audio Note AN-E/L speakers
If the SR purple brings more of that “reach out and touch” real quality, like oregonpapa reports, I’ll be very happy. |
Got an SR purple on the way for my CD transport. I’ve been pretty happy with the QSA light blues in all my gear, and felt they bettered the SR orange. With all the good reports about the SR purple, here and elsewhere, though, I had to give it a try. My transport, unlike my DAC and amp, has no tubes, so I leave it on all the time. That’ll speed up the break-in, so I can get a handle on what the purple does sooner. |
" Based on my experience, I would find it hard to believe, that if you only placed an upgraded fuse in only one component, you would hear a difference. Now I am also of the opinion that upgraded fuses will help lower-end systems more than high end systems but that is another debate. " An entirely plausible hypothesis, the better the internal power regulation etc etc |
The ’directional arrow’ is the direction of text on an SR fuse and is consistent from one fuse generation to the next. Reading left to right direction or signal starts at the beginning of the writing. What is unknown and what cannot be known without a test is the optimal direction in a specific component that will sound best. For this you really need to listen whether you have arrows or text on a fuse. This is because electricity does not *flow* like water but rather energy propagates abov/around the filiment/wire. When our straightforward listen in both directions per individual fuse guidelines are followed with any fuse, optimal performance is achived. Optimal directionality is discovered not for the fuse, but for each component, something that cannot be known until the experiment is performed. Bottomline if you want best performance in your audio system you need to work at it, and this is true for everything, not only fuses. Perhaps this will help:
Yours in music, Ted Denney III Lead Designer/CEO Synergistic Research Inc. |
You get no argument with me here. And with SR you do have to do one at a time. Nice rigs. SR would probably sell a heck of a lot more fuses if they took the time to tetst them and put a directioanl arrow on their fuses. It does seem like it would be cost effective as they have to test them anyway? If more people ask...? |
Here is my beef with SR fuses. QSA has a directional arrow and directions for which way they go. SR does not. My components are not easily accessible. I have 5 components that they go into. I have to try one component at a time to see what I hear. Oh wait there is a long break in period so how do I know if they sound bad? Then I add another component. This process could take a month. I can't put them all in at the same time. C'mon SR figure out the proper direction. QSA did. You can too. |
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glory, I’m pretty sure sooner or later someone else will chime in here about that very issue of the QSA Light Violet fuse vs the SR Purp. millercarbon posted about the QSA Light Violet fuse and said it was so good it was ’insane’. And I have no reason to doubt him. And we know how he feels about Ted’s stuff. In fact, I suspect that the QSA Light Violet fuse may have been one of the reasons Ted is now selling the SR Purp? As I have no reason to doubt the others here that rated the SR Orange vs the SR Purp. |
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cd45123, this is just the type of information I want to glean from this particular thread. Experiences from someone that has compared the QSA Light Violet (or other purple) to the SR Purp. The SR Purp seems like it has a very good cost/performance ratio. I owe you man, for spending your hard earned money and valuable time and effort. The beer and or wine are on me. Way to shine... Let me be clear, there’s nothing wrong with the QSA Light Violet, QSA Red or the special order QSA Red/Black, if you want it and can afford it, nothing at all. So if anyone has tried the QSA Light Violet, QSA Red or the special order QSA Red/Black fuses, I’d love to here about it. I just can’t afford them. And maybe on a QSA thread as I have a bad habit of high jacking the original post. That’s if the moderator hasn’t taken all the QSA fuse threads down... |
And andypandy name drops ’Atmasphere’ like that’s supposed to give him some sort of gravitas. I really would like to know what Ralph would have to say about SR Purp(le) fuses he’s tried, for the first time? I can’t remember off hand, but I think some of his beautifully engineered/designed gear doesn’t’ even use fuses? |
Just put two SR Purple fuses into my Pass mono blocks. It's a slam dunk. Out of the box it's better detail, imaging and soundstage. I can't wait for them to break in.
BTW, I have SR cables and interconnects but I was a bit skeptical about the fuses. Then another Audiogonner saw my amps and said, "I have the same ones. Have you upgraded your fuses?" So I did. Such a nice improvement. Highly recommended. |
andypandy35 posts
He was an illusionist, just the "properties" of these fuses are made out to be by some here. That’s why there’s no chance in hell of one being granted to one of these "fuses". Andy.
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My point was he didn't show the world about his trade secrets, IF he would have submitted anything to a patend office, The cat is out of the bag.. Anybody could copy his stuff, all of a sudden, Houdini ain't an escape artist any more.. Even getting satisfaction for someone using YOUR patent is only as enforceable as you are willing to pay for in a civil court.. Nothing criminal, and you still have to collect ANY moneys.. Good luck with that.. |
audiosens ... "oregonpapa, Which is best to apply: NPS 1260 or Total Contact Enhancer? Which is easy to apply and a good price for the improvement? Thank you." |
@willgolf @andypandy am I gonna set off more crazy in this thread if I get into it? Orange was good for more clarity- Purple seems to expand upon this clarity and detail with a greater openness to the midband, more musical, more 3D, it's like music has a greater flow. Sounds more open to my ears than the QSA Violet. That's just me |
Makes sense to me. I'm thinking the fuse patent had long expired decades before the AC/DC Tesla and Edison wars... |
On the patent office comment ... Some of you, including andypandy, missed the point. As a history buff, I've read that back in the 1800s, there was a motion in Congress to eliminate the patent office. The reason? Because it was thought that everything worth inventing had already been invented. I used the analogy to point out the closed-mindedness of a few of the posters here. |
I don’t really care too much for the ’properties’ of the fuses. What I am interested in is their effect on my system.
In each instance, they have been an improvement. Stock to SR Black for my amp. Stock to SR Red for my Dac. Then SR Red to SR Orange for amp/dac.
My notes on the SR Orange: Base stronger - seems to hang in the air.
SR Purple is next for my amp. |
A patend? Why on earth would you go to a patend office and share your idea with the world to have it copied. US patents are just that US patents. They have ZERO weight in CHINA. The companies that I worked with NEVER got patents because the plans that got you your patent are in plain view for the rest of the world to copy. I worked on a LOT of tool designs for drilling. You draw a picture of something in the drilling world, you better keep it close to your OWN vest.. Do you know what a patend cost? TO MUCH... NOW you know why fuse R&D and the total process of manufactures is wrapped up in a LOT of fancy talk with a MONEY back guarentee. It's just GOOD business sense to NOT throw the baby out with the bath water by giving away your secrets to ANY patend office in ANY country.. A patend dosen't have to prove it works, it has to prove it's not a copy of someone eleses work.. Do you think Houdini got patents? LOL Regards |
As technology advances, so do products advance. If this weren’t true, we would still be using gaslit street lamps, buggy whips, and outhouses. It is the same for audio equipment manufactures. Without technological advances, we wouldn’t have moved beyond mono systems into the stereo realm. After-market fuses wouldn’t exist in the first place. As for me, I welcome advancement in design. Frank |
