The current best band in the world?


There is of course no such thing. There’s not even a best Blues band, or Rock band, or Jazz band, or Country band, or any other kind of band. But a lot of us probably have a "favorite" band, one we like so much it is our favorite irrespective of genre. And so it is for me.

A band is the combined talents of all it’s members, different bands having varying distributions of talent levels amongst it’s members. There is a band that has been playing together now for 16 years, and damn are they good. It’s Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives, and they are my current favorite band. All four members are extremely talented, and they work together as only the very best bands do.

Marty Stuart went on the road in a Gospel group at age 12, playing mandolin for the Summer before returning to school. He was caught in class reading a Country music magazine hidden in a history book, and explained to the teacher he would rather make history than read about it. He was expelled, so looked for a job. Lester Flatt hired him, and Marty went on the road with him at age 13. He worked with Lester until Flatt’s failing health took him off the road in ’78, then kicked around a little with Vassar Clements and Doc Watson. In 1980 he was hired by Johnny Cash, with whom he worked for years. Marty got himself a record deal, and put out a bunch of albums on MCA and Columbia. I met him at The Palomino (the legendary Country music bar in North Hollywood, where Dwight Yoakam got his start) in the early 90’s, and a nicer guy you couldn’t find. He owns a bunch of historic guitars, including Pop Staple’s acoustic and Clarence White’s (The Byrds) Telecaster.

Drummer Harry Stinson is a superb musician and singer, long employed in Nashville studios in both capacities. Guitarist Kenny Vaughan is a Telecaster ace whom I first saw live playing guitar in Lucinda Williams’ band, on the Car Wheels tour. He’s also a real good harmony singer, with his own recent solo album. Bassist Chris Scruggs, Grandson of Earl Scruggs, is an incredible multi-instrumentalist (a first-call pedal steel player in Nashville) and, again, good harmony singer. Country musicians grow up singing as well as playing instruments.

All these guys are seasoned pros, talented not only on the instruments they play, but also as ensemble players; those are very different talents. Their latest album, Way Out West, was produced by Petty’s guitarist Mike Campbell, he also a big fan of Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives. Great band name!

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@slaw---yeah, I don’t know why home studios just don’t get as good a sound as pro studios. My old friend Pete Curry (bassist in Los Straitjackets) has a studio with a 2" 3M 16-track recorder, a bunch of great mics (Sennheiser, AKG, Neumann, Electro-Voice---the EV RE20 is a killer bass drum mic), a Manley tube mic pre-amp, a great plate reverb, other high quality outboard gear. Yet the recorded sound he gets lacks the "snap", the lightning-quick transient response that pro studios do. The sound is a little soft and veiled, lacking transparency and presence. By the way, his monitor system is a Mac 5100 integrated and 1960’s Altecs with 15" woofers in bass reflex enclosures and horns.

It could be the small rooms that are typical in home studios. Pete’s room is a square with hard floors and walls, really live and "splashy". I loaned him my 13 ASC Tube Traps, but they didn’t help much. I recorded in Emitt Rhodes studio, and his sound was really bad. But then he likes digital (his 2" multi-track Otari was covered in plastic, unused), and uses a bunch of junky semi-pro equipment. His mixes are really weird; the tambourine I overdubbed over my drum track was the loudest instrument!

@bdp24 ,

When you refer to (your) drum track... for what recording is this? Something we may have?

I doubt you or anyone else here has it slaw! It’s a track on a single by a guy named Ray Paul that Emitt produced and sang harmony on. The song is entitled "Some Sing, Some Dance", a 1972 song written by Canadian Michael Pagliaro. It came out in the late 90’s on a small Indi label named Permanent Press, and is also on an album collection of Ray Paul’s on the same label.

I have recorded in two pro studios since moving to the Portland area, and the drum sound the engineers got is as good as any project I’ve been involved in, including recordings made in the old RCA studio in L.A. (in the same room in which The Stones recorded "Satisfaction"), engineered by Tchad Blake (Los Lobos, T Bone Burnett). One of them has done some work with David Lynch!

I don't mean to get personal but, Is a reason you moved to Portland, one that had recording in mind?

All right, anyone already sick of my long posts, you don’t want to read this, so just skip on by. This is for slaw, but may also be of interest to those wondering how many musician’s lives are lived. No Steve, my move to Portland is the combined elements of advancing age, divorce, a sold house, and my sister’s (both of whom have lived in Portland since 1971) failing health. They asked me if I would consider moving up, as both of their husbands had passed away and they could use me being around.

I actually lived in Portland in 1976-8, making a living playing five nights a week with a local singer. But then The Knack broke big, and L.A. was bursting with energy and opportunity. My San Jose (where I grew up---the Garage Band capitol of the country in the mid/late-60’s) friend Pete Curry had already made the move, so I joined him in N. Hollywood in ’79, playing with him in a band with a great guitarist who ended up drinking himself to death about ten years later. Years later Pete and I were playing together in The Hillbilly Soul Surfers (one album available) when he got the call from Los Straitjackets to audition for the bassist slot. He got the gig, and the guitarist/leader of THSS got a call from Evan Johns, the legendary (to some ;-) madman guitarist/singer who had made three albums for Rykodisc. We recorded an album with him in Atlanta, Georgia you may be interested in---Moon Tan. He also drank himself to death, passing away just a few years ago.

I was simultaneously involved in the huge underground Pop music scene in L.A., which was obsessed with Brian Wilson and The Beatles. One of the top groups were The Wondermints, whose bassist/songwriter Brian Kassan left the group to start his own---Chewy Marble---shortly before they (The Wm’s) were brought to the attention of Brian Wilson, who hired them to be his road and recording band. Doh!

In ’98 (I believe it was) Kassan and I were engaged to be in the band that backed Emitt Rhodes for his first live appearance in many, many years. Kassan had just let his Chewy Marble drummer go, and asked me if I’d be interested in playing on the group’s upcoming second album recordings. I had heard their first s/t album, and found the songwriting excellent, as well as the musicianship. Great George Harrison-style guitar solos, and wonderful harmonies.

I provide all the above information to bring us back to the question of recorded sound quality. We started the album by recording a song in the home studio of a British guy who had been in a Pop group that had a semi-hit in the 80’s (whose name escapes me at the moment), who ironically lived one block away from my house in Burbank. The song turned out great both musically and sonically. Unfortunately, Kassan and the studio owner/engineer had a disagreement (a financial "misunderstanding"), and the recording was moved to a different studio, one over in Culver City (close to LAX). Recording commenced, and though I was playing the same drums and cymbals as I had in Burbank, their recorded sound in the Culver City studio was COMPLETELY different, and TERRIBLE. After getting about half the album recorded I could take it no longer, and bowed out of the project. If you listen to the album (entitled Bowl Of Surreal), compare the Burbank track ("Reasons Why") to my others on the album. How could the drums and cymbals sound so completely different due solely to the engineer and studio?!

Thanks Eric. I hope I didn't put you out. The read WAS a glimpse into the life of a musician and I appreciate you sharing it.

Not at all Steve. Another detail: while the Evan Johns Moontan album was being mixed and mastered (by Rodney Mills, who worked with Lynyrd Skynyrd, Atlanta Rhythm Section, 38 Special, etc.), a tour was being set up to support the release of the album. One day Evan started not feeling well, and went to the emergency room up in Vancouver, B.C., where he was living. He was admitted to the hospital, where he lapsed into a coma; final stages of liver failure. That was the end of the tour plans.

The week we spent recording, Evan ate one meal, the rest of the time chain-drinking 12 oz cans of room-temperature Budweiser. The band arrived in Atlanta a day after he, and on the morning of the first day of recording there were two 18-packs of empty beer cans outside his hotel room. He ended up awaking from the coma a few weeks later, and we learned this had happened twice before. He said to me: "As long as you stay away from the hard stuff (whiskey, I presumed), you’re okay". Apparently not; he died in Austin, Texas last year, only 60 years old. Really interesting, funny guy, and a great guitarist. Both he and Danny Gatton (nicknamed "The Humbler" by Vince Gill) came out of the Virginia Rockabilly/Blues/Hillbilly scene, and were in bands together off and on for years. One of the songs on Moontan is entitled "Shoot The Merle" (a play on words, i.e. the Surf song "Shoot The Curl"), a tribute to Merle Travis, the very influential Hillbilly guitarist, loved by Scotty Moore (Elvis), Jeff Beck, George Harrison, Clarence White (The Byrds), and of course Marty Stuart.

bdp24 Marty and his band sound a lot like the Byrds. All members are great musicians and sang a few songs each. Of course they throw some humor in to the mix too. I talked to Marty at the western art museum before the show. He's very down to earth and quite the photographer. His art is on display there. He has the last portrait of Johnny Cash taken a few days before he died.
Have to agree with those who said Wilco.  With each album they make they get better, and their live shows are really great.  
I am also a Son Volt fan, but they have not taken the whole alt-rock/country thing nearly as far as Wilco IMO.  I try to see either band whenever they come to town.  
I can't choose 1.
A couple bands I've been listening to a lot of lately that have been around for a while are:
Low
The Magnetic Fields
They don't sound anything alike but what I like them mostly for is how they structure their songs. Rather unconventional and for different reasons. Low keeps a slow tempo (without being mellow) and seems to make the most of every note. The Magnetic Fields choice of instruments for their songs seems to vary as does the way they put them together. 
A couple bands I've been listening to for years that are great are:
Bardo Pond
moe.
Bardo Ponds music is pretty hard to describe. Very textured and often loud. Their lead singer (only singer) has a lovely voice & plays a flute. 
moe. Is a straight up jam band with very talented musicians in it. IMO they are the best jam band currently out there. I love to see them in concert. They can play a song for 18 minutes & you will not get bored. They find a groove & squeeze as much as they can out of it without letting it get old.  
Well, here goes...The Flaming Lips.

I’ve been long in trying to get my mind wrapped around this band. That long time effort has been rewarded. I just finished listening to "The Dark Side of the Moon" from their box.

From the mind of Wayne Coyne and his band of fully developed, like minded bandmates, come the most interesting, fully thought-out, never to be topped, version of one of THE most revered lps of all time!

I’ve been searching this band for years, and, for one reason or another, they never clicked,,...Boy, was I SO wrong!

This revelation was made by having discounted lps made to us all by the following...otherwise, I may not have ever ordered.

https:// www.oldies.com Register with them. Once or twice a year, they offer huge discounts. The most recent was Labor Day. I made a HUGE score!

https:// www.insound.com Register with them and you’ll be rewarded with more, new/up-to-date deals on current releases. ON these, they offer decent discounts w/ free shipping on one lp. NOT BAD! These discounts are at best 55%.

Well, since the demise of Sound Stage Direct (SSD), the other two major on-line record sellers will not likely ever go beyond 20% off again.

one more...

https:// www.popmarket.com  They offer up-to-date/current releases at a very good discount w/free shipping for a single lp...not bad at all.
The current best band is the same best band for the last 49 years.....King Crimson. It,s not even close (just my opinion).  
Amen to hoggster--Rolling Stones are rock 'n roll's gold standard. Over the years have loved a bunch and hard to keep up with who is still together. Loved the Who, Roger Daltrey's voice on Love Reign O'er Me on the Quadrophenia album gives me goosebumps and I don't know how many vinyl copies of Dark Side of the Moon I wore out. Then there is Jethro Tull--probably have more Tull vinyl than any other. Love the Eagles, Tom Petty, Weather Report, a reggae band named Third World and the list gos on. Love Ann and Nancy of Heart, Chrissy Hinde, The Eurythmics, don't make me pick just one. Don't forget Daft Punk or the Danish Symphony who's version of the movie theme of the Good, the Bad and the Ugly is amazing.
@cisgo- I would encourage anyone here who has never heard Crimson recently to catch them. Probably one of the best produced, highest quality of musicianship, leave you stunned shows I have ever attended. (I caught them here in Austin last year at Bass Hall, and stupidly passed up an invite to catch them at the Beacon in NY a few years before).
Even if you don’t think much of "prog" rock, they deliver such a high level of performance live and sound hounds will revel in it. No overloading of the room, thunderously deep bass on that Chapman Stick played by Tony Levin (who is no slouch), three drummers. When they break into a lyrical song like Starless or Epitaph --and almost no one had the voice of Greg Lake but Jakko covers his parts pretty well-- it is goosebump time.
I’m not much of a believer in "best" anything-- but these guys are astoundingly good.
+1 Radiohead. 
Moon shaped pool is a fine album, though the first song is not my fav. 
cisgo I come close to agreeing with you about KC but there's just too many other great bands. I could never choose just one. But they are at least at the top of my list.
I saw King Crimson in Chicago a number of years back (Adrian was in the band then) & agree they are great! 
For me, the best band of today remains "The Beatles." 48 years after they broke up, their music is as relevant today as it was then. Moreover, even on their absolute worst day of playing, they are better than any other band on its best day. No other band comes close. Just my humble opinion.
There are several (audiophile ready) crimson live recordings from over the years on Spotify. Not the most jolly music but top notch all around. The band is out of sight and current vocalist Jakko Jakszyk actually takes the vocals to a higher level than his eminent predecessors.

I had a chance to see them live in D.C. Last year and passed.  Regrets.  Gotta make that happen next time. 
In particular check out the fairly recent Crimson live set "Radical Action to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind (live)". Awesome! 🙉

For those who like their country with a bit more edge, consider Jay Munly. Jay is a banjo player, guitarist, singer, and songwriter based in Denver, Colorado. He has played a significant role in the development of the "Denver Sound", music that mixes elements of country, gothic, folk and gospel. 
(Also check out Sixteen Horsepower's older stuff.)
Just read through this thread with the intention of nominating King Crimson (KC) and happy to see six others have beat me to it!!!

I've seen most of the bands mentioned (not the Stones or Beatles though), and seen KC 7-8 times, including twice in the last year.  The current line-up (and the request is for the CURRENT best band) is the best of the bunch.  Three drummers with full drum kits in the front row, with woodwinds/brass, bass, keyboards, and two guitarists (one of which is Robert Fripp) in the back row on a riser.  The power of three exceptional drummers playing at exactly the same time, if they wish, and all the other variants of drumming available to three drummers that they can imagine is jaw dropping (e.g., drum roles that pan from hard stage left to right and back again, that sound like one drummer).  And that's before the rest of the band kicks in.  Many elements of classical music and jazz are added to the rock foundation.

Check out "Live in Chicago" from last summer to hear what they can do.  "Live in Vienna" has even better sound quality.

Enjoy!!!

-docknow
Too many obscure bands in this list. And maybe what I'm going to say should refer to the best 'group' in the world if we accept bdp24's distinction between group vs band.

But the best group in the world and ever is the Rolling Stones. And no, I'm not a fanboy. I don't even own any of their music except their recent blues album. But, they were there at the beginning and they are still here (more or less). That alone is an unparalleled feat. But, they are also immensely popular, have been immensely influential and even if they contain no single virtuouso...well, Mick maybe...as a group they have gelled for decades. They have (had) charisma and presence and have been in the broad public consciousness for decades.

Just listing bands we happen to like isn't helpful in the 'contest' thread like this. There has to be more weight than "I like them".
@n80, so you consider The Stones the "current" best band/group in the world? I can see a person wanting to bestow upon them best
"all-time" (whether I or anyone else agrees with that or not), but current? I'm not sure even they would still be self-proclaiming that to be the case. There is a revealing story about them Ry Cooder has told regarding when they had him come over to England to record with them after Brian's Jones death, but I'll save that for another time. It's not flattering ;-) .
The Stones are presently the oldest band in the world. One of my fav videos on YouTube shows the Stones and their wives leaving Bill Wyman’s 80th birthday get together. But seriously you have to give them credit, having just completed a big European tour, including Poland.
bdp24, you have pretty tight criteria some of which might be more implicit than explicit.

But if by current you mean either new music being produced or playing previous music at the highest possible level, then no, The Stones don't fit that bill.

What Cooder has to say about the Stones is irrelevant. The Stones are The Stones. I remember Ian Anderson....and Billy Idol for that matter, disrespecting Led Zep. All it did was make them look foolish and petty.

So if by current you mean absolutely on the top of their game at this very moment then the answer is The Struts. They are everything they claim to be and try to be, in every possible way. Their tunes are catchy and pop centered. Their live shows are amazing. Yes, they are breaking previously plowed ground, but it has been a long time since that ground was broken and their doing a great job at it....in some ways better than their forebears.

For me they are the "current" best band in the world.
I think Weezer are a great band. They strike me as being a blend of The Ramones and AC/DC, with their own approach and personality. I love 'em!
Another stones distinction:  None of them has strangled on his own vomit or died in a plane crash. Who can top that?
One did drown in a swimming pool drugged  out but I guess that's fairly normal in the music business. 
In terms of other Stones who might have died Keith is too close to call.
Hands Down my favorite for the past 2-3 years is the Tedeschi Trucks Band.  They are Delaney & Bonnie merged with Mad Dogs & Englishman without any of the drugs.  Go see them live.  They are fantastic.
I like Tedeschi Trucks too. A lot. First album at least. Second album left me a little cold. Class act. But again, probably not the "current best band in the world". Just a great new band.

Keith has looked like death for at least the last 30 years now geoff. I think he'll out live all of us.