This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?
I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?
You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?
I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?
I got it. For some reason, I missed it before despite carefully looking for it twice. Well, what can I say in my defense? Nothing.
I agree with your general idea, but it is from the viewpoint of "music is the reason" while I have a feeling that many people are really in it to play with their toys. The music becomes an excuse. I see it as LEGO for adults, in some way. It just happens to be with equipment that reproduces sounds, but it could be anything else. The goal is to play with it and not necessarily to play it. I think those are two different groups of owners of a little bit pricier/more sophisticated equipment. One that buys it because it simply sounds better while they play music and the other one that is in it for building, rebuilding, outsmarting other hobbyists (just look at this thread), etc. I feel that many people from the second group convinced themselves that they are in it for music, while they really enjoy the "construction" part of their activity.
Look at this thread, or many others for that matter, and you will see how much time and effort people put in chasing something by trying new things. For example, I was really curious what "tuning" would encompass. I came out with a conclusion that it is a fluid process that, if you believed in it, you would have to do, more or less, every day. That would require focus on what has been achieved with certain move and then waiting for it to "settle"/"burn in"/whatever else. From what I gathered, the time would be dedicated to changing/improving sound which just seems too much work and too little play to me. I tend to turn the equipment on and leave it playing until I go to sleep. Building was just to get to the point when sound is satisfactory enough not to ask for more tinkering. It could be better, but what the heck. I have no time for listening carefully for a week to figure out if some compound placed on top of my amplifier would change the sound for better. In fact, now when I think about it, it would probably obstruct the airflow and first page of instructions says not to do so.
You seem to fall into the first of my two groups. People who have a system to listen to music on. It is not a hobby, I agree. Other group is not less valid and, I think, they are just as happy with their game. It is a hobby and it happens to use same tools as yours and mine.
kosst_amojan This last page of snake oilers vociferously debating the merits of their oils has felt to me like watching transvestites bicker about which one has the better fake tits.
>>>>>There goes costco_emoji looking in the mirror again. Tsk, tsk
Get a load of the vocabulary on that transvestite! 💃
"I get the temperature part, but am surprised by humidity statement. How can brass be more affected by humidity than wood?"
I think that the audio industry (hobbyist included) would do themselves a favor taking a course that explains and has lab work on the Fundamental Forces. It’s a lot easier to learn the long versions of this stuff rather than discussing the short versions on audio forums when so many are trying to one up each other. I also think I shouldn’t have pushed the wrong button when I went to post my longer answer a few moments ago LOL
Oh well, my post was about the history of my discoveries of when I started to hear problems with the Audiopoint and what my process was in my own evolution of designing the cone and other important tools. I can get back to that version anytime but here’s a shorter one, sorry.
About a year into my distributing of the Audiopoint is when I first started to be bugged by certain problems. Once I started hearing it I began to think Yikes, this isn’t good but no one was complaining so the panic didn’t set in (yet). I’m like that with my audio. Once I hear it, and hear it repeated, it becomes that thorn in my listening side. This is what brought me to ditching HEA chassis designs and a host of audio product designs.
HEA products for the most part are way over built and very cramped. Setting a big transformer down inside of a metal box is crazy, yet a whole segment of this industry did it. When you set that big field creator down inside of a box of chargeable parts your making a landmine of problems.
While dealing with what I was hearing with the Audiopoint I found a few interesting facts. One the cone is directional, two the cone is a conduit for fields and three the cone was very reactive to environment conditions. Later my friends from Conn and King instruments were like Duh where have you been lol.
"I can imagine some oxidation taking place and changing properties, although I would expect that to be a relatively slow process."
Glupson take your thought there a step further. Materials are what? Programable. Metals do what? Attract fields, reject fields, reflect fields, pass fields’ info and be charged by fields. Listen to your system when it is very dry, then, compare it to the sound when it’s raining outside. It’s not just the humidity but the....charge in the environment that changes.
"Wood, on the other hand, swells and what not, when exposed to the water/humidity and effects I have seen so far can appear overnight, if not sooner."
Same with metal.
"Is there a secret in wood processing. painting, or something else, that makes wood less susceptible to humidity exposure than brass?"
I don’t think it’s a matter of less or more but a matter of what happens to your sound.
If you take the time and carefully listen to your system you will hear it go through four main listening cycles every day. You as an object go through these same cycles. You as an object with a brain and live body....you get what I mean. listening is a moving target not a fixed snapshot. the guys who come up and say their system always sound the same, need to take up golf or something else other than audiophile listening cause there’s not a truthful guy on the planet who has not been a part of system change, and the continuum of sound. It’s not a fixed quantity from us as humans or our systems sitting on a revolving planet in a moving system. It’s just kind of goofy trying to sort through half baked theories. Fun as it might be for some, stretching their egos to the max trying to gain a following, there’s talk and then there’s walk. And walk is motion.
Now I am closer to some attempt at acceptance of brass being more responsive to humidity than wood, but not by much.
I can imagine metal being charged and that having some impact. Not that I completely understand, but that may be due to my limitations and I can see that someone could make a case for it.
However, metal (in our case brass) swelling and changing more than wood due to humidity is a little bit harder to grasp after a few decades of non-scientific experience with both. I mean, I have not done any experiment, controlled or not controlled, to measure outcomes of humidity exposure. Still, I do have anecdotal evidence to the contrary. I have had old wood windows swell after an evening shower enough to be much harder to open. I have never experienced anything similar with my cars, bicycles (that sucked every time, but because of a wet seat and slippery roads), or anything else made of metal I left in the rain or outside on a humid day. Cars always seemed to retain their size. Of course, I did not measure them so I cannot claim I am 100% sure, but still. I will leave it at that.
Even I agree that my system sounds different throughout the day. I do not give it much thought of why it is so, but it is so to my ears and I live with it. I, kind of, assign it to reaching the optimal temperature for whatever it is doing. It sounds better after a while, but I can tolerate it from the beginning.
I doubt many people would contest the claim that transformers placed in the box with other electronic parts can have some (presumably negative) effect on the function of those parts and, consequently, the final sound. The real reason they are placed in there is a very simple compromise. Sellers would lose 80% (I am making that number up, but I think it may be close to correct) of customers if they did not offer a cosmetically acceptable solution. Most of the people, even those who are willing to shell out many thousands of dollars for an amplifier, do not prefer to have too many wires and boxes laying around. For some, it is plain impossible due to children, pets, husbands, wives, design of the room, whatever. Why that simple fact always gets ignored, not only by you, is beyond me. From what I understand, manufacturers try to compromise by isolating transformers as much as they can. It may not be perfect, though. I am sure you know much more about that than I ever will.
Lol, you cracked me up with the swelling thing a little. I pictured all the guys here on the thread sitting outside in the rain listening and discussing the topic.
If you have time and a translation available to you, look at some of the audiophile forums from the far east. Metal and rubber corrosion is a major problem with audio products there.
An audio system really isn’t that far away from musical instruments as far as what affects what. Stereos go in and out of tune just like any other music producing item that carries an audio signal. I don’t look at the swelling of any instrument as a thing you want much of. As you mentioned early all of us can hear the cycles of listening change throughout the day. Some of this is us, some the system and some the continuum of time itself. How fast or slow something goes out of tune is relevant to the situation and the materials working, or not working, together as a whole.
The other thing sort of funny on this and other threads is how the posters dramatize things to prove points that really have nothing to do with listening to music at all. Like your bomb in the backyard thing or folks saying things with spins here to make their points, when all of this really comes down to common sense stuff. One that I kind of brought up earlier was this whole squeeze parts into a metal box and claim it will out perform something not in a box. These are basic designing flaws in the HEA paradigm that will sooner or latter catch up with the over build guys and kick them in the can big time, already been happening for about 15 years now even more. You know there are a lot of listeners out there who have felt ripped off by HEA after they experience simpler and more thought out designs. This is one of the reasons why you don’t see me getting upset on here. I’ve already done what they have yet to do, and as more people do and leave the HEA paradigm, then their friends in time follow suit and before you know it a whole gang of listeners leave the community of HEA brands.
I’ve got a system combo that will be going over to Malaysia soon that is a complete Tunable audio system. It includes everything. All you do is set it up and Tune it in. It cost less than one HEA component and blows the doors off of every big HEA system we have brought in in the last 4 years or beta tested at other places. And here’s the cool part, you can set this system up, put on a recording, if you like it great, if not, make a couple simple adjustments (similar to tuning a guitar) and your all set. This is the direction of the serious listener. Same thing with all these guys getting their room correction products. The hobby is actually getting sophisticated and before long in room listening will be bigger then it ever was. Check out the speakers I have coming out in 2019. They’re RoomTune Speakers. I have two markets I’m focused on. One is the combo setup I’m talking about and the other is the RoomTune system.
The RoomTune system is a lifestyle speaker system that uses the room as the speaker. It’s a speaker system designed to work with Digital Room Correction systems.
I know lol the self promotion police will be up to flame me shortly lol!
While they’re doing that listen to what I’m really saying. HEA has reached their crossroads, and it’s a good thing. We live in a different world than we did 25 years ago. Old school HEA is wonderful, especially 1995 and back. Then there’s the discrete HEA era 1995-2015. The discrete audio era lost ground, but during that time audio innovation overall advanced and advanced to the point where a room correction system now usually out performs your big buck systems. It doesn’t out perform the tuning purist but makes slaughter of these "One Fixed Sound" systems. Right now your seeing folks trying to correct their HEA systems with these processors, with fairly good results for the most part. For these systems though you still have some room and component problems, basically because many of the speaker designs out there are built to fight the room not work with it. That’s going to change and probably fairly soon and to a much bigger market.
So this guy shows up here in March of 2018 and begins his dialing for dollars and self promotion tour..No other threads or answers given except for own self promotion. Has he ever been a benefit to Audiogon in terms of adding money to their pockets ? It appears he has ridden this gravy train for free for these many months.
Another thing...how does he hold our negative posts hostage and has them deleted when he adds nothing to the pockets of Audiogon...How could and how does that happen. Zero benefit to Audiogon the company and zero benefit to any of its members. Its all about himself. Tom
@theaudiotweak, how can you say such a thing? Why, he’s just posting here to share his enthusiasm for the "hobby". It’s all about having fun!!! Are you suggesting he’s disingenuous?
Get on board, brother---disassemble your electronics and stick little pieces of wood and other doohickeys under all the parts. Those engineers who designed them don’t know anything about how to really achieve good sound, ’cause they don’t do "the walk". Guys like Nelson Pass are so passe’, with their stuffy ’ol engineering education and knowledge. Poor fools, they don’t know HEA is dead.
But don’t despair; there is a new Messiah on the scene, ready to lead us all to the promised land. Just drink the kool-aid, and pass the collection plate. Hey, even Messiah's gotta eat.
OK, let’s see, who’s nastier? My vote goes to bdp24. Second place goes to theaudiotweak. Sorry guys. There can be only one winner. Sorry, Tom, at least you tried. Costco_emoji would have had a shot but he keeps deleting his posts.
Huh? What does that quote have to do with your humble scribe? Oh, wait, I see, this is glubson at his/her peak. Bad glubson, bad! Besides, I don’t promote myself. I promote the truth!
“I’m walking through these streets that are dead.”
Thanks for the question about my involvement with Audiogon, but I’m pretty sure this has been covered before, maybe a few times. I will try to find more of the shows Audiogon covered for and with us and reissue them on TuneLand. Here’s one of them.
"Greetings and welcome to the 2005 CES show coverage from the Vegas Towers,
No one puts out show coverage pictures like the people at Audiogon. I’d like to personally thank Steven Clay and Albert Porter for their excellent pictures and visit. What is it I always say? A picture is worth a thousand words and here are the ones that Audiogon has displaying on their site for you to view. After this article, please visit Audiogon.com and take a look at the 2005 CES coverage.
Audiogon is a true equal opportunity company that I have had great pleasure in getting to know over the past year. They not only do great show pictures, but they also help expose companies to the mainstream hobbyists. No matter what your view is on high end audio, you will find a piece of it on Audiogon.
Let?s get right into the show coverage at Vegas Towers: "
I probably have cut and paste this particular show to the recent TuneLand somewhere, however I don’t know how long Agon host their archives. I know we did ads and programs with Agon for a long time and got a great response. If and when the time comes I'm sure we can do it again but it probably won't be until after the forum trolling is gone. As folks read TuneLand you can see the type of community we are and if we did any ads it would be with those who have similar Vibe. No doubt the Mods here have the right feel, but the forum still is looked at 50/50. I know we're doing promotion with TONEAudio to help introduce our friends at AUDOLICI and we pop up here and there to say hi on "enjoy the music" and other places, but todays marketing is a lot different from the old paradigm and changing every day.
For right now though just being here has introduced us back to a few hundred RoomTune and MGA followers and family. It's been interesting, for example Kosst negative comments have sold Picasso & Bare Essence interconnects and speaker wire for us, and Audiopoint rants has allowed quite a number of people to reconnect with us. We also have listeners ordering MGA Tuning Blocks, Speakers and RoomTune just from this thread alone. So if the sales do go into the hundreds of orders here I would think we will try some ads here again. In the meantime and as the trolling decreases here I will probably do a free banner for Agon on our website. It will go here http://www.michaelgreenaudio.net/contact-information
Aren't you the inventor of Room Tunes? I remember back in the 90's, almost every Stereophile review mentioned your invention. Do you still make them and I believe the Just a Rack audio rack? I am asking merely out of curiosity.
In the later 90's after the HEA market seemed pretty saturated with RoomTune and the Audiophile mom & pop stores went out of business I for the most part traded in my CES badge for my NAMM badge. That's the short version, but I've always been around just not as visible.
Michael, you post a link to room tunes on your site. Yet nowhere in the link does it give a price for a basic room tune pack. In fact, there are no prices for anything. What gives? I have looked around on the site before and have had the same result when researching any of your products. I don't want to have to talk to Harold, or whoever the guy in the picture is, to find out how much products cost.
When was the last time your products were used at a show? Any pictures or awards to show proof of such hand me downs?...Not since 2005? Just asking ....Tom
I apologize for my former employee’s business partner. I have no clue why both he and Bobby are doing what they are here and with so much venom. As has been covered and now repeated for the how many times, Robert of Starsound worked for me for 9 months 20 some years ago and now distributes a line of cones I once got noticed as I introduced the Audiopoint to HEA. I know boring right? The MTD replaced the Audiopoint and life goes on and so on · and so forth · and so on and so forth · and the rest · and/or the like · and/or suchlike · and/or more of the same · and/or similar things. lol
But
But it is kind of cool that Michael Green Audio and/or RoomTune has been at the HEA Shows every year since 1989-present. That is pretty cool isn’t it! The fact that other designers and stores have trusted the designs for that long. Kinda neat.
Thank you Tom for "just asking". And thank you for all the advertising your doing for me.
Michael Green
PS: holy smokes 34,000 views on this thread so far!
"When was the last time your products were used at a show?"
How does one get his products in the show? Is it by applying, being at least remotely relevant to the topic of the show (audio reproduction in this case), and paying the fee? Is there more to it?
I have been thinking about your recent post and HEA paradigm you mentioned and so on. I am a bit slow so I am still simmering my thoughts about it. Kind of like a slow cooker.
I think you recently mentioned that current HEA is full of "over-engineered" products, or something to that effect. If I remembered those words right, what do you mean by that? Not necessarily the brand and model number, but what would be a general sign/idea of an overengineered product?
Do not get too upset. My questions are, in general, not addressed to you. So far, you have shown that you do not answer questions. You just babble your way as if nobody else exists. At least as if nobody else exists except for you to try to make fun of them or insult them. Bad boy. If a boy at all.
And here at Star Sound we have a published list with prices for over 60 products.. not zero, none or just 2..We have reviews and show awards on several of our designs.
We offer products that serve to enhance the sound and physical performance of select string instruments. These devices are highly considered and reviewed from players around the world.
Here at Star Sound and Tone Acoustics we test and share our science and art to benefit both the high fi system in your home as well as the live performance on stage. This becomes our mutual proving ground. It is our goal to merge the sound of the live performance venue and bring that reality into your home and studio.
The previous may sound like an ad..well we have paid for banner ads as well as posted for sale items in several different catogories going back more than a decade..Some im post ers have paid zilch over that same decade. Are they just freeloaders and users not givers? They may talk but not give. Tom
There's probably 20 sites like this throughout the world gaining more amplifier design credibility every day, both solid state and tubes.
The Audiophile world (not HEA necessarily) is changing rapidly and at such a pace that HEA audiophiles are dropping out of the more expensive scene almost at the plinking of an eye. Now you can buy up and down the money scale anything you want, as far as amps & preamps go, sound wise. It's getting to the point where you can either pay for the chassis & some mystery theories or buy stripped down versions (that sound better) for hundreds, even less. Super low mass components and speakers are walking away with the hobby. It's not even up for debate anymore, it's simply a matter of watching it take place. Yep, there is a little debate on the HEA forums but these forums are changing almost overnight.
The question listeners are now asking themselves is "why own complicated components and speakers"? It's truly not 25 years ago. There's no need to build complicated crossovers, and no need for complicated amplifiers, and certainly a bad idea to build over built, complicated, digital. The overbuilt complicated market is falling over the cliff as we speak.
Glupson, you think we are seeing threads on the HEA dying, give it a couple more years when you'll read "what the heck happened". How many 40year olds are interested in huge space heaters for amps? I don't see but a few hands raised do you? This last AXPONA I talked to a few of my friends who are amp and speaker builders. How many products did you sell? 2, 3 maybe 5 if they are lying. Compare this to the 90's when you had salesfolks sitting at the table with the guy or gal taking orders with a couple people waiting in line to place theirs. That's not an opinion that's a fact.
After the anger ends of people trying to desperately hang onto something that is fading we're going to come out on the other side with some great sounding systems, very much like so many people from the early 90's back do. The new components are not going to be big, there's no need for big anymore. I tell folks to look inside of the Sherwood 4105 and the brand X HEA product. No comparison as far as proper real estate goes. I mentioned this too, and I'll ask you. Why after all these years do HEA speakers require such complex crossovers? It's because there are that many problems in the design that needs corrected.
I like these forums because I learn something every time I visit. I actually did some walking a couple of years ago and tried lighter, smaller (i.e., more hip), Class D amplifiers by that guy from Belgium but alas I had to return to my old school,
overbuilt, yet somehow complicated, 95 pound each, 300 wpc, in room-heater, Class A monoblocks.....because they sound much better. I am surprised to learn I could have simply walked over to Parts Express and bought $20 Class D amplifier boards. Somehow, I am content to have stopped walking and to instead be sitting in front of an excellent-sounding system. When is it ok to stop walking?
You only do direct sales correct, you have no dealers right? If we went direct only we would publish the pricing on the main site as well obviously. As it is when someone inquires we fire them off pricelists.
Why, did you need to purchase something? lol
I'm pretty open to selling any way that works best. That's why they have edit programs for websites. Direct only is kind of a two edged sword. There's a part of me that wants to see the mom & pop stereo store come back. That era was wonderful for the consumer. But a store that has to compete against direct sales on the same product, that's a hard pill to shallow for me still.
I'm sorry if that bugs some, but isn't that hope in you readers as well? Wouldn't it, by some miracle, be the coolest thing if stores were able to be that local hang out again? I don't know, I think there's a time you've got to stop with the greed and negativity and get back to the fun that made this all happen. I'm thrilled to death when a new person or someone from the past gets ahold of me and wants some of my goodies. I don't pretend to be the best business person, I don't even want to be the best business person, I just enjoy the ride and love it when someone else wants to come along. I like making people deals and mostly sharing music and our lives in music together. All this other stuff to me is just egos.
You don't understand. Children have no access to expensive high level components, all they can have are some parts around house to build something by themselves for themselves. That's what Michael tries to do - to teach children how to do it and how to get the most out of it. Disregard the adult world, to hell with it. I just had to write again because of those micro-brains having nothing to offer but primitive harassment. Of course, big class A amp sounds better, everyone knows it including Michael. He also knows that Studer sounds better than any digital let alone his reference player. But that's not the point. In addition, Michael does not listen to music or components while listening to music, he is on a quest to create a particular sound signature. When he finds it the system is complete and tuned. That's what he is saying - find your own sound signature, I will help you. And, listen to his Chameleon speakers if you have a chance, with real good amp and analog source. Let me just say that they sound different, yes very much like an instrument. Try to see the best in people. In other words - don't be a.......
As well there are many folks doing the opposite. I have a question for you. When you tried the small amp did you also try compatible speakers and other items, or did you just do a plug & play swap out?
I don't know about anyone else but when I do a component change so drastic as the one mentioned by Mitch I also do a system match up to at least the level I did with my original system.
One thing I have noticed with these smaller amps is they don't like complicated crossovers or many other things that we use with our past setups. That goes for wire and the whole boat. I'm seeing far more listeners going simple with better results then the other way around, by a big margin too.
If those are looking to do this experiment be sure to let your amp burn in for a few months, especially with "D" amps. You would think this little thing will break in in no time but that's not the case from what I have been hearing.
That's a good point that sometimes I assume people already know about me, so I'm glad you brought that up, thanks. Counting up the amplifiers that I own right now and have here with me is 22 amps. If you count the audio closet I have access to there are around 200 amplifiers.
I'm definitely not shy for equipment.
It's funny that kosst the other day was trying to make comments about Class A amplifiers when I was not only a dealer for Nelson, toured with his amps on the trade show road, but have also tuned up maybe 30 of his amps in systems. I've probably owned 20 or so Class A amps myself, but it's more interesting to watch some of these guys ramble on not aware there are audiogon readers who know me rolling their eyes at them.LOL
The Agon Mods have been great, the private emails from members have been great, the folks ordering have been wonderful, it's been fun talking to you and others, so I'm a happy camper. And the fact that the negative folks plan backfired is a hoot. I even took off most of the day today to spend time with Audiogon members. pretty cool
Nope, didn't change speakers. The speakers I had at the time were rated for 90dB at 2.83V and seemed well-suited to both amps. The small (and pretty well-known) class D amps were rated at 400 wpc into 8 ohms.
Do not get too upset. My questions are, in general, not addressed to you. So far, you have shown that you do not answer questions.
>>>>I don’t get upset. I get even. I don’t answer questions? Give me an example. That would so unlike me. Perhaps you are confused, pumpkin. Ordinarily if someone asks me what time it is I’ll explain how to make a clock. Have a nice day. Do not get too upset. I know it’s your nature.🌷🌷🌷
glupson, sorry, but in this case you are partially incorrect. Geoff does always answers questions, but the answers are always the same. Pop quiz, what are Geoff's answers?
Let me help, wire directionality, magic markers on the edges of CD's, cryogenics, and vibration control. There may be one or two others I am missing.
I think even those are not the answers. He does continue talking same few things, but actually not as an answer. They are statements frequently unrelated to anything asked.
geoffkait,
I will repeat my question. What model is your Panasonic portable CD player.
I see no evidence you ever asked the question, glubson. Besides, I already answered a similar question from uberwaltz some months back. Yes, I know, pumpkin, what about this? What about that?
I see no evidence you ever asked the question so I surmise you’re lying about it.
But to answer your question, I actually prefer not (rpt) to say which Panasonic model I’m using at present, now that you bring it up. I use maybe five different players in the course of a year, of different brands and models. I trust that answers your question.
I got it. You prefer not to answer. It will not change anything important, but remember that you did not answer.
As a little note on a side, I do not lie and I did ask the question before. It might have not been on "Talk but not walk" thread, but I did ask. Lack of evidence does not mean that certain event did not occur. It may merely mean that investigation has been flawed.
I know you seem to be well respected here especially with over 11K posts to your name. It seems to me and I am only speaking of myself that most of your comments are quite snarky (when I say snarky I am being polite). From your posts, even if I was interested in whatever it is you sell, I would not buy anything from you, even if it was free. It always seem if someone doesn't agree with you, you call them names, etc. Again, I am speaking for merely myself. I wonder what names you will now call me, lol.
I know I get annoyed from time to time and say things without thinking (and get called out on it), none of us are perfect, especially me, but can't you be a bit nicer or is it not in your blood to do so? Frankly, I am surprised everyone seems to put up with it. Ok, so now everyone can tar and feather me for speaking my mind.
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