Talk but not walk?


Hi Guys

This isn't meant to start a fight, but it is important to on lookers. As a qualifier, I have my own audio forum where we report on audio issues as we empirically test them. It helps us short cut on theories and developing methods of listening. We have a wide range of systems and they are all over the world adding their experiences to the mix. Some are engineers, some are artist and others are audiophiles both new and old. One question I am almost always asked while I am visiting other forums, from some of my members and also members of the forum I am visiting is, why do so many HEA hobbyist talk theory without any, or very limited, empirical testing or experience?

I have been around empirical testing labs since I was a kid, and one thing that is certain is, you can always tell if someone is talking without walking. Right now on this forum there are easily 20 threads going on where folks are talking theory and there is absolutely no doubt to any of us who have actually done the testing needed, that the guy talking has never done the actual empirical testing themselves. I've seen this happen with HEA reviewers and designers and a ton of hobbyist. My question is this, why?

You would think that this hobby would be about listening and experience, so why are there so many myths created and why, in this hobby in particular, do people claim they know something without ever experimenting or being part of a team of empirical science folks. It's not that hard to setup a real empirical testing ground, so why don't we see this happen?

I'm not asking for peoples credentials, and I'm not asking to be trolled, I'm simply asking why talk and not walk? In many ways HEA is on pause while the rest of audio innovation is moving forward. I'm also not asking you guys to defend HEA, we've all heard it been there done it. What I'm asking is a very simple question in a hobby that is suppose to be based on "doing", why fake it?

thanks, be polite

Michael Green

www.michaelgreenaudio.net


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HEA forums are no different from other online places where the exchange of ideas and learning e.g. astrophotography, photography, etc. the participants generally loose focus...

>>>>>>....astrophotography, photography, etc. the participants generally loose (sic) focus. Good one! 🤡


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Thank You Readers

I've enjoyed watching some of you convert your systems from high mass to low mass this year, from small soundstages to huge and more than anything watching you go from saying "bad recordings" to "I can hear how good they are now". Discovering low mass and Tuning is setting the hobbyist free one by one and more grow interested every day.

The key to all this has been those who decided to explore, and explore more than lip service. Thank you for your emails, facebook visits and PMs.

Someone said to me earlier "good to have you back". Well I'm not back I'm just stopping by to answer the requests and to recruit folks looking and listening for the next personal listening level beyond HEA's over built/over priced dead end.

Long live the Audiophile and long live progress.

Michael Green

Hi Geoff

Are you keeping everyone inline? Hope you have a good thanksgiving!

mg


quote from a low mass tunable system listener from Norway that I received minutes ago

"I'm sitting here smiling as I play music. Incredibly fun to hear how the sound changes with small changes."

Lizzie would welcome you back too, I’m not 100% but it appears her self-destruct button blew itself up. Anyway, huggies from Lizzie in anesthesia, I mean abstensia.
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After wasting a couple hours reading through this entire thread I can confidently state that never before have I seen so many words devoted to so little substance.
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