@ozzy
In my home I have SDFB at the Wall End
That said - virtually ALL of our end users in the EU and Asia go the other way.
This is mainly due to installation with NEMA Piggies
Very busy today - The tail end of an incredible Holiday Season for us.
Merry Christmas - Mark
Swiss Digital FUSE BOX Question Thread
Good Day
Over the last several weeks I have been receiving questions daily about the Swiss Digital Fuse Box
I have asked permission to post this thread.
Questions, needs, comments etc. – feel free to post here
I’m hopeful that by starting this thread those interested can get their questions answered.
Thanks – Mark
So, I guess I will address my own question. I just tried the SDFB at the amp end and although it was kinda ok I ended up putting it back at the wall end. To me, with the SDFB at the wall end, and then having the Power cord going directly into the amp retains the sound quality of the power cord going to the amp. ozzy |
Mark I have a hard time understanding how a sluggo could be directional. I assume there are no wires, and it is just a solid piece of Copper, silver, Graphene, or other. I have two SDFB with Graphene sluggoos for my Aries Cerat Dac and Lucas Audio MS. Have you done testing to verify directionality? Personally, one of the reasons I purchased the SDFB was that I did not want to deal with directional fuses. I have a third SDFB coming for my Aries Cerat Ageto Pre. That requires two sluggos. Can you imagine the contortions I would have to go through to determine the direction for each? It does not make sense to me. Please provide your insight. Thx |
@ozzy you have some great power cords! I did this so the Swiss boxes would be neat and tidy behind my gear. Mark says both positions are fine, but closer to the actual piece of gear seems like a small plus should protection mode be needed. I understand we are talking about a minuscule difference. |
Built my own adaptors replacing the cheap ones from Amazon. My goodness what a big step up in sound quality! If any of you are using the cheap adaptors you really must build a good DIY adaptor. You can buy great sounding AC plugs on Amazon from Viborg or Monosaudio. Here is a link to the Viborg offerings. You can order Rhodium, Gold, or copper. These sound as good as the big dollar ones based on my long history of building cables. You will discard the outer plastic barrels so don’t spend more money on the fancy carbon fiber or aluminum ones. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4J8DZC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1
Simply use Neotech 14 or 12 gauge solid core copper wire in Teflon as your conductor. Remove the outer barrels and hook up the the connectors back to back with short 3 or so inch lengths of wire. I soldered spades to the conductor ends for ease in assembling. Not a must. Close quarters if the conductors are cut this short, but you can cut them a bit longer if you like. Don’t do this unless you understand the proper way to assemble a power cord as you don’t want a short! I covered with 3 layers of adhesive lined 1.5 inch diameter heat shrink (3:1). Very robust and safe. Sounds incredible and takes up very little room. Total cost per adaptor of around $50. I am able to place the Swiss box right behind my gear on a rack with these adapters in place. I place footers or wood blocks under the Swiss box for support. . Works wonderfully. You can also use a short 3-4 inch section of your favorite bulk power cord cable. Your choice. I like the Neotech solid core conductor sound and robustness. You do need some skill and experience to build these as lining up everything can be a challenge. I used these spades to tighten down inside the AC connectors, but these are not a must. After you tighten down the connector screws and apply 3 layers of double walled, adhesive lined shrink wrap no part of this adaptor will ever move! Hard as a rock with no give or chance of any movement! https://www.soniccraft.com/product_info.php/sonic-craft-bar-spade-p-1516 |
I received my fusebox (w/Graphene Sluggo) last week. After a few frustrating days I reversed the Sluggo.. Ahh! There was an odd tonality and edginess to the music before the change. I've experienced this with many aftermarket fuses over the years so I'm not really surprised. I'm using the fusebox with my integrated amp only. |
It’s actually a passive power conditioner, crystals based and since it sits at the end point of the piwer chain particularly effective at eliminating ground level borne and EMI/RFI induced crud on the piwer line. It drops the noise floor, increases localisation within and dimensions of the sound stage as well as sharpening impulse response. And the Chinese knock offs are actually quite good. |
@antigrunge2 Please tell us more about this combo in terms of sonic qualities. I was not aware of this product from Furutech. |
My third Swiss box is now in place on my Innuos Pulsar streamer. Another gain in sound quality. These are easily the best component/tweak upgrade I have experienced. Just wonderful. The Audiophile’s Wife agrees 110%. For me and in my system, the Graphene Sluggos are king of the Sluggo hill. They are the most refined, natural and easeful sounding. They make me want to listen longer. Better depth and layering. I like the pure copper also, but the Graphene is next level. |
antigrunge2, If I understand you correctly, you are saying with just the slug installed there is more volume than when you also connect up the SDFB. Interesting. Since my amps take 20A fuses I installed the SDFB Max that outputs 20A. Perhaps that is what you may need (if the difference is significant). ozzy |
I purchased two Swiss boxes replacing Purple and Master SR fuses. They are now pretty broken in and I love them! I have a Graphene Sluggo on my Int amp and pure copper Sluggos on my field coil power supply. The copper Sluggos are definitely directional. I have not found the Graphene Sluggos to be directional in my amplifier. The SR fuses are wonderful, but the Swiss box does not editorialize or color the sound in any way. All SR fuses have a sound and personality if you will. Using them I was forced to find the recipe or combo of fuse colors needed for my system and tastes. None of the recipe tailoring is needed with the Swiss box. All aspects of sound quality have improved with no part of the frequency spectrum highlighted. As others have said, music has a greater sense of ease and is naturally and rightly balanced. The Swiss box improves dynamics, realism, resolution, stage size and just puts a smile on your face. |
I'm trying so hard to not address this thread too much and to just allow the opinions both positive and negative to flow for lack of a better word organically
Ozzy is correct I generally ask that people start with their amplifiers first. The results are usually remarkable to most that have written me
Fuse boxes now being sold very successfully all over the world and recently there are some marvelous reviews in Mandarin that have been posted in Taiwan that are just extraordinary
We're very proud of fuse box and fuse box Max and it's true we do have other things coming that will really I think impress our customer base
I really appreciate all of the opinions here and again trying very hard to not get in the way
Happy holidays to all
Best wishes
Mark |
@ozzy Due to your success I thought I would give switching direction on my Graphene Sluggos another go after not hearing a difference hours back. Well 🤯! The sluggo in my tube preamp sound definitely improved. The Sluggo in my tube amp I couldn’t distinguish a noticeable difference like my preamp. I will spend some more time flipping the amp Sluggo in between eating my plate of crow!😂 |
I’ll try reversing when everything breaks in (SDFB, Piggy Tail, graphene sluggo) If my prior experience with Graphene contact enhancer (PPT Perfect Path) is any guide, it takes 30 - 60 days for it to reach full potential, although a different horse since PPT is a paste not vapor deposited. my Graphene Sluggo made a noticeable jump at 20 hours just like the PPT paste, there was a shrillness that evened out plus expanded seperation of instruments. Hoping improvement continues. I want MORE MORE MORE! ;=) |
antigrunge2, Man, this is some crazy stuff, goes against any known saneness that I once thought I possessed. (My wife might not agree with that statement.) I owe you thanks for posting the idea. My friend Tom convinced me to give it a try, he says that the copper slug may have been drawn in one direction as wire is. What I am hearing with just a couple hours in, is that yes, I do at least at this time, do hear more resolution, a little louder, more dynamic, better higher frequencies and overall better sound. I would not have believed it. Now do I believe that I just happened to have the fuses both in the same direction before I switched them? It sure seems like I got lucky, but I will probably reverse one in the future just to try. I did put a small red tape piece at each fuse end, so I don’t get confused. (not in the contact area) Perhaps Mark should add some mark for future tweakers... More to come... ozzy |
Wanted to comment quickly that we do purchased "Extruded" Bar Stock that we then carefully mill to size. We are even doing that dreaded UK required 6 x 25mm necessary for UK Socketry. Gotta love the UK. My first wife was an Ipswich Girl.
PS - I will try to post more during The Season, as we have some pretty nifty stuff coming. |
Good Evening
On the subject of Sluggos and their Directionality (or Not) most of us feel that the Graphene version is NOT directional. The Graphene is Vacuum Deposited and as such… none of us can detect a difference
THEN… the High Purity Copper I have to back track a bit and admit I was wrong. I DO hear a difference when flipped. Ugh… 😊 |
I am open to many tweaks that require an open mind and when people were mentioning Sluggo's were directional I thought how could a solid piece of metal be directional. So I gave it a go comparing Sluggo's (silver, copper graphene with many hours)in different directions. I could not hear a difference on my system. If others are able to hear a difference great for them and enjoy. It will be interesting to see what Mark and his team experience on their testing.
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Sluggos are directional. When I use the graphene sluggo on my Wavac EC300b the difference between either way is substantial. It‘s equivalent to changing phase: when inserted the right way images get more coherent and there is less congestion.,Pls try it, otherwise you may not know what you are missing. |
Dear Friends,
Swiss Digital FUSE BOX has been an around the world massive success. We are all very grateful for the faith and trust you placed in us with SDFB and it’s ancillary products. Thank YOU!
Current Price New Price
NO INCREASE NO INCREASE
If you have interest in purchasing any of the above, may we please ask you to place your order quickly. Production Lead Times are 2 to 4 days for shipment.
Please feel free to send me your order needs and Jordan or Courtney will invoice right away. I’m so sorry for the short notice, but with a moment to re-visit our new costs, I simply must get the wheels in motion. My apologies.
Many sincere thanks – Mark |
Thanks for your note. Just caught this before getting ready to head out today. |
@agisthos I have Monoblocks like yours as well: mine are BAT VK60. i wii receive a swissdogital fusebox for the main fuse soon. But 4 fuses are protecting the output tubes on each monoblock. Did you put slogos in there? What kind and why directonal.
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