A quick look at the CXN specs and I did not see native support for Apple Music. You also mention Airplay, iPhone and Mac. Can you describe how you are currently playing music and how you are connected to the CXN?
Streamer upgrade advice.
Hello to The Gon Community,
I've come to the point there my digital front end is the weak link in my system. Some years ago, I jumped into streaming with a Cambridge CXN (V1). I think it's still "fine" in as much as it's delivering music that is pleasing to the ears. But, having upgraded the rest of my system over the years, and recognizing that streaming is a different game compared to 2018 or whatever when I got the CXN, it feels like time to "move up in the world". The problem, of course, is the massive number of options out there. Here are a few points I am considering;
1) I am a Mac user and so have always imported digital files using the Apple Lossless codec.
2) My only streaming service is Apple Music and I don't intend to make a change there. I've got plenty of files locally. Paying for Roon or something like that is not in the cards.
3) I don't particularly care about a screen on a streamer. I sit far enough away from my hardware and my eyes are old enough that no component-sized screen is going to be useful.
4) I do like a streamer with some sort of remote app for control from my iPhone.
So, that's where I am. Budget is somewhere in the "up to $2k" range and I don't mind buying used. I'd have already moved to a PS Audio Airlens except that those don't seem to play nice with Apple (only ethernet in and no Airplay compatibility).
Any thoughts appreciated. Remainder of system listed below.
DAC: PS Audio DS Jr
Pre: PS Audio Stellar Gold / Luxman CL-38uC
Amp: PS Audio M700 / Luxman L-550ax2
Speakers: Tocaro Model 40e + REL T-Zero Subs * 2
Airplay, Apple Music snd ALAC isn’t exactly an optimized streaming setup. You can improve it by getting a streamer with native apple music support but it’s still not going to sound as good as qobuz or tidal. |
Sadly, it's time to move on from Apple. The most cost effective solution would be to get a streamer/server with some onboard storage. Relocate the music you own onto the new device then switch streaming services to Qobuz or Tidal. This should really unlock the potential in your system. If you stay with Apple you will always be handcuffed. |
Here’s a very good streamer w/ internal storage at a good price that also has an excellent app that’s very user friendly. Very good customer support as well. If interested move fast because at this price it won’t last long. https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650237304-innuos-zen-mk-3-server/ |
You have to be a mug to pay thousands of dollars for an audiophile streamer with built in storage. You can get a good NAS with RAID protection for less than $500. When a hard disk fails you just swap it out for a new one, instead of paying thousands for a new audiophile streamer box. Save your money for the DAC and amplifier. |
Here's a review of the control app for Synology NAS devices. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZQE1xp76QY It controls any DLNA or UPNP streamer on your wifi network. |
Like others have said, moving on from Apple to Qobuz or Tidal will open up more hardware options for consideration, and you may find the quality from either of those two superior to AM. |
I, too, am. Dedicated Mac user, since January1985 while stationed with the Army in Europe. However, I recently added TIDAL to my system, still through an iPad Pro. A comparison of the same songs between the two services was simply stunning, with far better imaging nd somewhat better tonal qualities immediately evident. So, I have an Innuous Stream 1 with added reclocker on order. Given the quality of your system, I believe the addition of a better streamer will make a significant difference but also that switching to TIDAL—its monthly fee is modest—will also make a huge difference. Once you get your new streamer, check out Tidal and Qobuz via their free trials. I was “sold” in less than an hour. Wishing you great music! |
Hi. For me it has to be Lumin D3. It's CNC aluminium chassis is a build quality that is not going to be bettered, No gimmicks, The focus is on quality components. It will gives you a taste of high end refinement but not a high end price. Does TIDAL Connect and Airplay 2 Compatible as well as Roon Ready, Spotify Connect, MQA, TIDAL, Qobuz, Plex and TuneIn. |
To answer your question I would take a good look at Innuos and Aurender. They are superior streamers and will locally store the music that you own. Your budget should be able to get you into one of their entry models especially in the second hand market. Both companies only make streamer/servers (which is a plus) and both offer very good apps to control your music from a phone or tablet. Good luck and don't forget to demo! The streamers actually all sound a bit different. |
Hey OP I highly recommend that you look into Eversolo (which ever fits your budget) you said you only wanted apple music. then here it is " Eversolo Streamers Apple Music User Guide – eversolo "
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I highly recommend the Eversolo A8, it fits your budget and has a very good phone app from which you can control everything. Works well with many streaming platforms including Apple. In addition you’ll get a decent DAC and backup preamp! It does have a screen, but you don’t need it, the remote works well. I only ever use the screen for updates. BTW, Apple Music sounds great on it, I use Apple, Qobuz and Tidal; all work well. |
I use a Bluesound Vault 2i. Allows me to either use the onboard DAC or connect to a stand alone DAC. 2 TB of storage and on board Qobuz, Tidal, Spotify. ~$1,700. I'm currently working through my DAC options. Currently debating between the LTA Aero, the Schiit Yggdrasil (more is better) and the underdog Geshelli DayZee. Probably by the time I make up my mind it will be a different one all together, I'm fine taking my time on this, the built in DAC sounds great in the meantime. |
@charles007100 The Bricasti M1 would be up there, or a used Grimm MU2. https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650213276-grimm-mu2-8tb-major-dac/ |
@soix thanks for the recommendation and link. Others here also spoke highly of Innuos, from both a musicality/SQ and user interface/app perspective. So, I went ahead and bought that Zen Mk 3 unit on USAM! |
@bimmerlover You’re welcome and congrats. You got a great deal on what’s basically a new unit, and I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on it versus the Cambridge if you could. |
It's an interesting aspect of our hobby. We can spend thousands on a streamer, but then hesitate on the software that truly makes it shine. The combination of annual subscriptions for Roon and Qobuz comes out to about $23 a month, yet the improvement they bring to the experience and sound quality is, for me, one of the most significant upgrades you can make at any price. |
If your files are stored on a NAS or some kind of computer on your wifi network, you can stream them using only software. No extra hardware required. Software will read the data from the files and stream it to a digital output port, which can be connected to your DAC. Could be Roon, JPlay, BubbleUpnp, or Synology DS audio software. Sure, it can be convenient to get a cheap hardware streamer like a Bluesound or Wiim, but that's just a convenient way of creating a digital audio stream. Its makes no sense to spend thousands of dollars on that. The bits that affect sound quality are the dac and amplifier. |
@jimmyb123 If you think a multipurpose computer compares to a good streamer you have much to learn. Everything matters in a streaming setup, and that certainly pertains to streamers.
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As long as the bluetooth is turned off and there’s no electrical interference, one USB digital audio stream is the same as another. It’s just digital data. It doesn’t have to be an expensive streamer. I have a NAS in the computer room and a wifi extender wired to a $379 streamer ( a Roon ready bluesound nano https://www.bluesound.com/usa/node-nano) in the living room. Sound is great, because there’s a RME ADI-2 DAC, a Luxman P-750U headphone amp, and Meze Empyrean Elites! |
If you can use coax a frugal choice that punches way above its price (at least by 3x) is to get the ifi Zen streamer. But you will also need to add a quiet linear power supply ($50) or use the ifi elite power supply. But only over coax does the performance of the ifi Zen excel! Coax performance on the ifi zen is positively sublime and superb.
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