Stay away from the nad

What I can find on the PSB Synchrony  One bookshelf is that it is a 4 ohm speaker that dips to below 3 ohms at some frequencies.  I'm sure it'll be fine with the Accuphase.  

213runnin

Yes, It's quite a step up but what else to buy. I tried Parasound Halo and it just didn't sound right. C356 with the right Pre/Amp interconnects sounded better then Halo or I just like the nad sound despite the reliability. Another option is Belles Aria Integrated but I am not familiar with the Aria's sound. If it has Nad's dynamic I would buy Aria right away.
And yes, I have PSB Synchrony One B bookshelf speaker that I really like.
I listened the PSB with the Accuphase E-470 and that was it. Just perfect sound. I just hope that E-270 has similar sonic signature as the E-470. My friend who owns the Accuphase told me that E-470 besides the more power has more 3D sound but the E-270 already provide very nice sound and that I would notice the difference in sound only with the high end speakers.

avanti1960

Try C356 with the ZU Wylde (well broken in / 150 hours) short Interconnects
for Pre / Amp. You will like the sound. Much more details

"blue cap" C272 and it is a very nice sounding solid state amp with gobs of power and dynamics, never a glitch.
c356 year and a half and no issues except the power led flickers.  not happy with the sound of the C356 though.  

BTW, the OP mentioned he’s going to order an Accuphase E-270. That integrated amp, as far as I can tell, is a gem that sells for around $4500. With that kind of budget many excellent IA would be options, but the Accuphase is certainly one of them.

Interesting that the Nad C356BEE goes for around $750 new. Quite the budget increase!  I asked the OP earlier which speakers he was using, now I'm more curious because the  Accuphase E-270 might be too much if they are a small bookshelf.

I bet if approached right,  NAD will take care of it.

bojak, I have mutual respect for you and that old NAD amplifier that has endured abuse, beer parties, etc, and no doubt played some very good tunes from that era. Your going to have to handle that baby with some tender loving care.

bojack, not sure if you're thinking of the C372/272, but the first run of those had white power caps, which turned to be troublesome.  I know this because after I bought my C372 I found out about this and panicked.  But mine had the better black caps and it was rock solid.

As is the C375BEE, as was the C326BEE before it.  The C372 retailed for around 900, and the C375BEE was about 1500, so completely different animals and it shows on the better quality parts used on the inside.

People that have any brand amp failures tend to be the ones willing to search out a forum and comment, not the 90%+ that never have an issue.

It depends on which NAD era we're talking about. My 7225PE I bought in 1991 has been used, abused, played at beer parties outside in the freezing cold, and left powered continuously on for one 10-year stretch...not one hiccup and it still rocks. However, I do know that others have had issues with the T-series (one tech I met said they refused to even work on them they were so bad), and the 150W BEE amp had a design flaw that caused enough the parts to melt. Not fair to say the whole brand is bad, though.

If there products are so bad, then why have they stayed in business since 1972?  Don McLean's "American Pie" was a hit that year -- it's a long time ago.  All these years of putting out crappy products and still going strong?  Something doesn't add up.

After owning some of the older units from the late eighties and nineties, I don't think this gear can be categorized as problematic they are pretty much bullet proof.

I would disagree with schubert "troublesome brand since day one.'.  I'm with mitch2.  I bought my NAD 3130 in 1984/1985.  Still have it. Used it in multiple systems, and my oldest daughter used it in college and her first year of marriage, and now it's back with me.  Only problem now is some noisy controls.  Will probably have these cleaned.  Great little amp with lasting quality.  Sounds like that's not the case for NAD these days, but I certainly can't fault my 33-yr-old for quality.

NAD / New Audio Disposal

It's always been my experience in 31yrs of this audio hobby,
That you get mostly what you pay for.
There are exceptions to this though.

NAD has been most troublesome brand since day one .

Same here with a 315bee integrated.  Good sound for the money, but built with components so cheap and assembled so badly that it did not last much longer than a year.  The entire pre-amp was totally shorted, inputs, volume control, etc... in a more than caring environment. 
So for me, never NAD again.  In addition, the new classic line hybrid digital have not been well received by reviewers.
imho, NAD is not going stay one the market much longer.  They have made the wrong choices when it come to quality control and designs. 

+1 m-db!

These are not rare cases, this has plagued NAD for the past few years, something to do with quality control. If you buy anything from them its hit or miss. This is very unfortunate situation since they make very good sounding units.

With 3 amps dying on you, something must be wrong in your system, or house wiring.

What ohm rating do your speakers have? Do they have a phase angle? Did you buy brand new Nad each time or factory refurbs? What specific volume level position do you use? And for how many hours at a time?

It just seems strange to me. I’ve owned 5 Nad integrated amps. 2 C326BEE, one c372, one C375BEE and one C356BEE. And a top of the line cd player, the C565BEE. Three were used. Two were refurbs, and one was brand new. I’ve only owned each for a year or so, but I’ve not had one failure. Now, could I be extremely lucky, and Nad is actually awful, or much more likely, Nad has been around for over 40 years for a good reason, and something else is going on.  Still, your experience sucks, and I can understand wanting to stay away from Nad.

PS, the $400 estimate over the phone from the service center, is useless since they don’t really know what the problem with the C356BEE is. It could be more, but most likely a lot less.

   Contacting NAD about your unit is a good idea. There's always going to be some premature failure rate in almost any product. You just got a bad one, that's all. I wouldn't condemn the entire company over one bad unit. 

I THINK THAT I SHOULD. In past five years three "units" broke down: C275, C356 x 2. and always few months after warranty expired. I'm listening  music on a very moderate levels. How should I call it, by accident?

m-db,
nad is very ignorant. I did E-mail the nad and placed two calls and so far nothing. 

I do not think you should call nad junk because one unit went bad, in my almost 45 years buying high end i have had more then one high end unit that went bad n i am talking well above nad.

Not
Always
Defective

Thanks for sharing your experience. I had considered the M17, but the old tongue in cheek poke at NAD, just always stuck in the back of my mind. I realize that your experience may be a "rare" case, but reading it steers me away even more.

Your frustration is understandable.

Personally, I'd send an email to NAD describing in detail the issue you're having. Include your purchase information, model, and serial number. 

Giving the manufacture an opportunity to make an offer is free and who knows? 

I bet you could make one pretty indestructible commode with a single Magico, though(;

Today I will be listening to my 36 year-old NAD 2150 that sits in my garage year-round, through 80/90 degree summer days and sometimes single-digit winter days, has never needed repair, and still sounds great on a pair of larg'ish outdoor speakers.
I guess they don't make em like they used to.  
I suspect you will really like the Accuphase.  Happy 4th.

Yogiboy,

Hell no! That's pollution. That grey box deserves 1000 tons hydraulic press
and what's left of should be sprayed with the Alien's blood.

Yogiboy,

Now that's funny.

That's a shame about your nad,I wouldn't put any money in it though.Maybe It's a sign from the audio Gods to move up in equipment.

Best of luck to you,

Kenny.

You have many options to choose from!
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