Speakers to hang on to for LIFE


After 9 years with my Proac Response 3s, I recently decided to change speakers. As you can tell, I'm not an upgrade fever patient. I want something I can live with for years & I think the best advice I'm gonna get will be from those who have & are still living with their speakers for an extended period of time. Please tell me why too. Thanks.Bob.
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Hello.

My name is Stefan
I own a pair of Lincoln Walsh OHM A's of which there are only about 36 pairs made as I understand.

I would like to know if any other person on Audiofon hava a pair and would like to copare notes.

My email is swesolowski@gmx.net

Thank you.
Best regards,
Stefan
My current speakers are Dynaudio Countour 5.4's. They continue to satisfy and amaze me as my system evolves around them. Good low-end response down to high 20's, great midrange, and same esotar2 tweeter as in many of their most expensive designs. They will probably stay with me for life (I'm 61), I'm even completely renovating my listening room around them. Only speakers I've liked as much (that I've owned), were Tannoy 12" Monitor Golds. Wish I still had them.

Best to all,

Dan
I have spent the last 15 years with a pair of Martin Logan Aerius. They still amaze me at times. Once I finally figured out how to properly treat the room they really started to shine. Before that I bought a pair of Dhalquist dq10 in 1980 up umtill I got the ML's. They were good.
I am having the 15 year itch, so this thread is a good read!

Cheers
Ed
Ran into a pair of Von Schweickert VR-7SE's a few months ago - they do everything right and shouldn't be leaving my system anytime soon. Really great speakers with no artificial built-in subs - everything you hear is produced from the speakers' engineering. Fast, musical, detailed, holographic, 3-dimensional, great bass, mids and treble, etc., etc. - this speaker's got it all.
Pass Labs Rushmores!

I will second Jebsmith73 in saying that the Rushmore's are one of the best speakers in the world. My next upgrade will have to be another 2 pairs for surround sound.
Wilson Benesch ARCs
Just lovely, with a little Metronome integrated and CD player

I also have come to "re-love" my nautilus 805s when I heard them with an Ayre AX-7e integrated and Ayre CD player. Completely different from the WBs, and I think that's why I will keep both sets. USed a Proceed amp previously, and it sounded good, and similar to the Classe-BMW mix. I prefer the sound with the Ayre.
I am not a rich man so I have to make choices that I have to live with. I had B&W N804 for 7 hears. Just upgraded to 803S. Before that they were Bang & Olufsen M100-2 for maybe around 10 years.
I own or have owned 18 pairs of fairly decent speakers , from Spendor, Spica, Snell, Klipsch, JBL, B&W, and a few oddballs, but the two pair that I will never part with are Ohm Walsh 3's and 4's-- both have had their surrounds professionally replaced, and when my electronics exceed them, I will simply upgrade to Series 3 cans. I greatly enjoy the others for their merits, but the Ohms are very easy to live with and look at. Modern classics, indeed.
Er, there really are none - as it's all for sale eventually (lol).
However, if I had to pick a pair, I'd say Sonus Faber Extrema's.
Well, back in 2001 I said I'd hang on to my Apogee Stages forever. It's been almost that long, sixteen years. However, I'm going to sell them soon in a quest for more floor space. I'm simplifying and downsizing my system.
My H.H. Scott two-way cat coffins I have owned for 35 years. I have owned many other speakers but I keep coming back to these. Because they sounded so good? No, not at all!! I come back because the highly retro cherry veneer cabinets are so cool looking, because I keep telling myself I can eventually make them sound as good as they look, and because I'm cheap. None of the newer speakers I have owned have exuded the coolness of these - cool sort of like how "Kramer" on Seinfeld was "cool", or something... I will very likely buy new speakers and replace these in my main listening room, but I will hang onto them "for life".

The long saga:

My brother bought these speakers at the Navy PX in Vallejo, CA in 1966 and he gave them to me in about 1973. Back then they had the stock paper drivers bolted on the BACK of the face board and had an oblong port that chuffed like Chris Farley giving a raspberry. The grill cloth was the sparkley burlap stuff glued to the face board that was so popular for speakers in the fifties and sixties. The cabinet was crafted so the face board was recessed with slightly beveled wood trim and the whole thing sort of looked like a well crafted wood and fabric horn. The noises that came out sounded like they were coming from a tunnel. I used these speakers for a while and then put them in the attic and replaced them with some Bose speakers. Over time other speakers came and went.

1980 - Modification 1. I decided to pull the H.H. Scotts out of storage and upgrade the guts of the cool looking boxes. I replaced the drivers and crossover with components from Speakerlab in Seattle (new tweeter and 8" mid/woofer), and blocked the ports converting them to acoustic suspension speakers. I didn't want to disturb the retro look of the grill cloth so I bolted the drivers on the back of the face board like the stock configuration - sounded like a slightly more dynamic speaker in a tunnel.

1991 - Modification 2. I got my first CD player (Yamaha CDC-715), and thought the H.H. Scott/Speakerlabs needed a tune up for the digital age, so I removed the grill cloth, pulled the drivers out of the cabinet and mounted them on the front of the face board. Now we are talking - they looked a bit more industrial but sounded at least as good as I had intended with the first upgrade. Acoustic musician friends liked the sound, asked who built the speakers!!!

1992 - Modification 3. with little kids and cats in the picture, quickly puncture both dust caps, one woofer cone and collapse both tweeter domes on newly exposed drivers. Speakerlab now 2,500 miles away. Replace all drivers with Radio Shack products. New drivers sound like crap, no time to listen anyway.

2004 - Modification 4. Getting back into audio, buy new integrated amplifier and tuner, no money left for new speakers. Back in Seattle - so pick up new Vifa/Morell drivers, Caps and Kimber wiring at Speakerlab. I brace inside of boxes, line with sound deadening material and seal cabinets. Built natural fabric detachable grill clothes (think AR or Advent style) - about $250 total investment in all parts plus time. At first I can't understand why they sound diffrerent like crap (I didn't fully understand break in concept for speaker drivers and electronics). As drivers loosen up and I correctly dial in positions in the room, I can't believe how good the H.H. Scott/Speakerlab/Vifa/Morell speakers sound.

Now, any new piece of equipment, wire or tweak in the audio chain is immediately noticed. The speakers are fast, nuanced, detailed and warm, and bass is honest and fairly natural to 45Hz. Are they the "best speakers" ever? No. Do they sound as good as current state of the art for sealed speakers? No. They don't image as well and the bass isn't as clean as similarly sized ATC's for example. But I am enjoying listening to music in ways I haven't before, and these multiple retreads compare favorably to currently available speakers that cost many times more than my investment in parts. These old speakers have a history that means something to me, and they look very groovy baby...
Like everyone else hear, I too have been a boarding house for speakers. Many have come and gone over the past 15 years and few remain.
KLH Nines
Quad 57's
Chartwell LS3/5a's
The Chartwells Get more exercise than anything else. I walk them with a Fisher 400 and a Dragon in my computer room daily. Listening as to Santana as I type. If my house should catch fire, I'd grab the LS3/5a's. They'll be perfect for the van I will be living in!
I fell in love w/the 'Magnepan' sound in about '82 or '83.
I kept those MG-1s until just last November.
They had been rebuilt at the factory and re-socked.

I'm not an equipment changing guy, but I just could not part with them....at least until I could replace them with some NEW 1.6's.... I'll be buried in the box they came in!

I had them in everything from 900ft3 large closets to rooms that must have gone 6000ft3 and never had any problems with room filling / good imaging / distinctive sound.
Back in 2002, I wrote this:

10-31-02: dacspool@yahoo.com
I bought my Martin Logan Sequels in 1987. At the time, I auditioned lots of very high quality loudspeakers including Kef 104/2, which I also liked very much, and Magnepans.

Here it is - 2002 and I still have them!! Of course they've been driven with high quality equipment, and I've taken wonderful care of them. I've had to replace the panels about 5 years ago, but other than that, they remain PERFECT! The sound still amazes me and I wouldn't trade them for anything!!!
dacspool@yahoo.com

The Sequels were nice, but I sold them and bought a pair of MartinLogan reQuests, which I loved, but they were very large, so after 5 years of the reQuests I now have a pair of MartinLogan Summits. I think I've reached the end of the line.. I like the CLX, but they're too big for my room, so the Summits will be with me until the end.

Tom
Snell JII-- easily placed anywhere in a room for outstanding sound at a very fair original price of $670, back in 1987. They are amazing when wired in a vertical bi-amp setup. Absolutely awesome. Beat speakers I've heard costing $5000! (Monitor Audio PL100)
I've had a pair of Magnepan 2.6R's for 12 years bought second hand from Sound Components in Coral Gables. Although I have had a pair of EPI M-3 towers for almost the same length of time as well as a relatively recently purchased pair of Klipsch Heresy 1's that I occasionally put up for variety, I still go back to the Maggies for genuine relaxed enjoyment.
I'VE HAD MY PARADIGM 9'S AND THE ORIGINAL STUDIO MONITORS SINCE THE EARLY 90'S PLUS A PAIR OF THE 1200 SUBS, I'LL HAVE TO GIVE THEM UP SOON BUT STILL LOVE THEM . I JUST GOT A NICE PAIR OF CARVER AMAZING PLATS ,LOVE THE LOOK BUT I WONT KEEP THEM. NOW MY LEGACY FOCUS ARE NEVER LEAVING MY SIGHT... UNLESS MY FUTURE SON IN LAW IS A TONE HEAD HE CAN HAVE THEM WHEN I DIE.
SF Guarneri Homage...haven't thought about another speaker for a split second since owning these.
After a 15 year journey into this wonderful world of Audio, and a least 10 different pairs of speakers, I have settled on a pair of Magenpan MMGs with Peter Gunn cross-over, revere panels, and oak rear frame. Floor spikes with 20 lb. of lead shot on the cross-over. Sound to die for IF you have the room, and the POWER!!
Jman,
Agree with you, my Sonus Faber G's have got me off the merry-go-round also.
A very special speaker that is a pleasure to own.
I've been using Kharma 3.2 FE Reference for a long time and only today I've decided the technology is going on and I should upgrade...with what? I have no ideea. Probably somethig expesive so I will change them in 10 years.
My speakers for life are not doing well. Have had a pair of Genesis II from Genesis Physics Corporation since 1977. They are warm, sweet and room-filling. The last couple years they "crackle" when I change volumes and make some other odd noises. Would it be worth it to try to rebuild them or are they bound for the dump? Would they even sound the same rebuilt? Any new speakers (moderate price range) that could give me a similar sound?
Right now Spica TC 60's, TC 50's and I really enjoyed the Alon 1 Mk II's. Right now the TC 60's I own have given me more joy than I ever expected. I have had $5000 speakers in my listening room and didn't last. Just in the past year I have auditioned over 2 dozen different models and still the Spicas remain. They amaze many of my friends too in my 13' x 14' room. Set up properly they disappear and give you that PYFQ that I love. "PAT YOUR FOOT QUOTIENT" You know it's right when you pat your feet, play air guitar, air drums and sing along.
VINTAGE SANSUI SP-5500's.......Speakers made today are made for HOME THEATER....!!
"VINTAGE SANSUI SP-5500's.......Speakers made today are made for HOME THEATER....!!"

Wow! It must be nice to be so out of touch with reality.
If space permits
Quad EL57

Right now i'm really enjoying the Ridge Street Sasons and expecting to keep them a long time
for longevity it must be a pair of Gale 401A's bought in 1976,have since been repaired/refoamed etc over the years but still sound great as do a pair 402's owned for a short 20 years.
I have a pair of B&W 801 matrix 2 speakers since 1997.
Unfortunately, I'm moving to a place that is too small for these speakers.
What price should I ask for? I judge them a 10.
Try the Coincident Pure Reference Speakers and tell me they're not either the best or among the best .
gentlemen, i have owned and/or listened to many of the great speakers over the last 30 years or so. after a fair amount of research, i recently purchased a pair of montana KAS speakers from an agon member. these are, without question, the finest speakers i have ever heard. i cannot go into everything they do correctly-- if you can find a pair and have the $$, go for it!!
Speakers to hang onto for life is impossible...but a couple that got away or will get away soon:

1. Mission 70's mkII
2. ProAc Studio 1 (orig. version)
3. Tannoy D90
4. Omega Grande 8

No matter how good they are, you have to try different things - that's what makes this hobby fun as the list of "I should have never sold that" gets longer and longer.
* KEF 104/2: Owned these for over 15 years and still love them (well the memory of them). Smooth highs, detailed midrange, unique port loaded bass. Image like 2 ways, solid sound staging, and most importantly: they play MUSIC.

* Gallo Ref 3.1: To soon to tell as I've only owned these for a few months. They share many of the same qualities of the KEFs with a larger sweet spot and even better imaging. I think these will last me another 15 years but I don't want to make any rash judgments. I'll post again in 10 years and let you know if they measure up :)
If physical space is not a concern, I would stay with big speakers in a typical American fashion (the bigger the better, what else). I have had Magnepans, Martin Logans, JBLs, Infinity, and recently Sonus Fabers and I swear, for my taste nothing of the above can be compared to a double stack of Dahlquist DQ10 with Entec subwoofers and Spectrals electronics. To me that is the sound of music.
Two pairs for me, that I NEVER should have sold. Klipsch LaScalla's, and Thiel 3.0's. Two big mistakes. And two great speakers.
VSA VR-7SEs - Just got a 2nd VAC Phi 300.1 amp to drive them. With 300w into each speaker, performance jumped amazingly - these will never leave now........
I regret selling my most pristine Apogee Scintilla. Never regretted selling my Diva though.
Celestion 3's. These are bookshelves and I have had them for a long time. Maybe 15 years. They are outstanding speakers. I have never had to fix once. They are actually the fronts (on stands) in my home theatre now. I also use them as backups when I'm switching the 2 channel setup.
Been using and loving my Infinity RS 5 Kappa speakers for 18 years. The model was the two-way baby brother of the better-known 8 and 9 Kappas .I believe this model was only manufactured in 1989. The speakers have always been wonderful to look at and hear to me ! They had their surrounds re-foamed a year ago, as they finally failed, but now my concern is the crossover and some of its caps.Only the tweeter circuit has Wonder plastic ones. The rest seem to be electrolytes from Culver city.Does anyone have any idea what the sound degradation caused by 20- year-old dried up caps would be in practice? The sound to me today is OK, but if it's been turning worse gradually I guess maybe one doesn't notice...Changing the caps seems a dubious idea to me, since the circuit board and its solderings seem fragile and prone to be permanently damaged if the work (which is beyond my capabilities) isn't carried out very carefully. What do you say? Otherwise I*d be more than willing to go on with the Infinities "for ever"...
I had a 50 year old pair of altecs 420y. Sadly one just died monday. I hang my head in shame.....But it can be rebuilt I can make it better than it was before better stronger faster;)
John,
Why do you hang your head in shame? It's obvious you loved your speakers... Were you doing something to the speaker you'd be ashamed if other people knew? :^)
Having drifted away from my first high quality speaker experience, 12" Tannoy Dual Concentric, I sadly sold what I thought was my lifetime keepers, namely Dynaudio Contour 5.4's, I had decided to get back to my first love, Tannoy.

I had 1 7/8" thick 150 liter 192lb. custom enclosures in a front ported reflex design built to my specifications by Frank Wyatt (Wyatt Woodworking). They are finished in a high-gloss Pommelle Sapele, and have turned out beautifully. I had purchased a pair of 35 year old HPD 315 drivers (12" Dual Concentric) Tannoys on Ebay UK, and installed them with DH Labs Q10 Silvers, hardwired to replace the flimsy Tannoy connectors.

How do they sound? More like live music than any other speaker I have ever heard. The dynamics and scale of music are just more right than with any other dynamic driver I have heard. I am in the process of upgrading the old crossovers with Mundorf Silver in Oil Caps, but I assure you, these are my lifetime music partners, and unlike some marriages, which may become dissolute after a time, these custom, one-off beauties will go the distance. 'Til death do us part!

Thanks for taking the time to read this, enjoy,
Dan
This is a really great thread indeed: I love to see that I'm not the only audiofool who likes to keep stuff that is good. It is a good way to actually get around to enjoy listening to music!

I'm owning a pair of QUAD ESL57's for well over 20 years now. I was lucky to bump into a pair that was rather special because they have silver grills, which was made especially for the Phonogram studios in the seventies. I believe that the Swedish radio also had this version. Their better appearance than the standard bronze certainly is a factor in wanting to keep them.
Two years ago I replaced all elements with refurbished units by Wayne Picquet, to make sure they'll last another twenty years or more.
I also managed to lay my hands on one of the twenty or so pairs of SW57 subwoofers that are built for the ESL57's. So both for performance and rarity I'm going to hold on to this combination until total deafness sets in, or worse. Playing music on those speakers manages to give me goosebumps time and time again!
I've owned {two-pairs} of Polk Audio Monitor 10's. I have them suspended up on piano wire hanging at a 35 degree angled tilt to the listening area of my living room. Man! they are as good as "18' years ago... say what you want, but I haven't had the notion to look at anything else...

The Chops
Polk SDA-SRS 2"s bought in 1988.Klipsch Khorns bought a 1987 vintage pair in 1992.I modded these with Beyma cp-25 tweeters and Alk Trachorns in 2006.I own seven pair of speakers but don't think I will ever sell either.I listen to the Khorns the most.
Last year's purchase of Guru QM-10s are a revelation for me and I'll probably hang on to them until I can afford the QM-60s or something comes along that can outpace their amazing musical flexability, price point and compact size.