Some excellent information in this thread, thanks for the postings...
New Project RS2T transport
I have had one already and sent it back, did not work at all upon receipt. Dealing with the Music Room though is a pleasure. Will always do business with them. Had unit replaced with a new one, just arrived Yesterday, Sunday afternoon 7-25-22. Hooked it up and SAID WOW!!! I have a Meitner MA-1 DAC and the synergy is Fabulous. Right out of the box it sounded, GREAT. So very OPEN. I have been blessed when upgrading several pieces to be totally surprised by the improvements. VERY Audible!
I am somewhat concerned though as there have been a great deal of posts about quality control issues. (see first sentence) As I said unit sounds GREAT, very impressed. HOWEVER, if anyone can comment that owns one, I noticed when placing the little magnetic puck on the disc that it just sits atop the center spindle and does not contact disc. The magnetic puck has a female center on the underside that goes over a very small male metal protrusion. (SPINDLE) I would think that it should go over that spindle totally and meet the disc firmly. (no space between disc and puck??? When I place puck on top of CD, It appears that the machining on the underside of the hole should be a MM wider so it doesn't sit atop the spindle and drops down totally on the disc. Hope this makes sense. Thanks Robert TN Ps would like to thank Charles1 DAD for encouraging me to stick with transport. It is that GOOD!!! Just wondering if they all are designed to do what I am experiencing?
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Charles1DAD, and ipretiring: As soon as I get a invoice from Cullen, My wife and I decided on the Cullen Crossover 2 cables 10awg. We both choose them independent of one another, maybe a good sign. I'm sure the others are great also. May choose one for the LPS later to compliment the Rs2T. Providing it lasts through the 60 day trial window? For a different treat after cutting grass for 2 hrs, I listened to my IEM's which I haven't done in a long time. I forgot how good they are when you just want a quick listen, Hour or so. Hear is a taste if interested. I have an I-phone 6s coupled with an I phone camera adapter cable, attached to that is an IFI BTR5 ( if I remember correctly) headphone amp and DAC which then connects to my IEM's. (FIIO FH5 ) If you keep them WIRED rather than Bluetooth, and subscribe to Qobuz for example or Amazon HD, ( I do both) you will get an absolute treat. If it's 192 for example you will get 192, Just amazing sound. Hard to believe from an IEM. Just my 2 cents. Enjoy Have a great weekend all. Tks again for all your help Ps Has to remain WIRED to get that sound, otherwise just Good.. |
You are welcome. I’m just happy to know that you and Robert are able to enjoy the terrific sound quality of the RS2T. Admittedly I post often about this CD transport. I’ve been so thoroughly pleased with its performance I feel compelled to let other music lovers aware of it. I was using an old (20 years) Marigo Lab Audio power cable to the Fidelizer Nikola II LPS. I very recently replaced it with a Lavricables “Master “ pure silver power cable. My goodness what an improvement. The RS2T-Fidelizer-Lavricables combination just sings! Charles |
Many fine recommendations listed so far. I have a Cullen Crossover, Triode Wire Labs 8+ and a 10+ along with a Signal Cable magic PC and 3 Signal Cable Digital References. I wasn't a fan of the Signal magic however for my system and set up the Digital Reference is the most neutral PC of my group. The Triodes are very close but a little warmer presentation that I do not need emphasized. The Cullen I found to be slightly heavy in the bass region but hasn't been auditioned in my main rig for a long time. The Digital reference can be used anywhere. It is 12 gauge which is sufficient for everything with the possible exception of the most powerful amps. Pricing for this cable which recently was an absolute steal is still a great bargain. The one stinker about it is that it's difficult to work with being so darn stiff. These cables have been evaluated with my Tekton Double Impacts which if memory serves is the speaker you're trying to match up. Also a big "Thank You" to Charles for alerting me to the standby feature of the RS2T by utilizing the remote. Once I got the unit to power up, the standby has worked at least a dozen straight times. I can only assume it will continue as such until my replacement finally shows up. |
@robshaw This will stay in budget and is a top recommendation. Likewise, Cullen is fine, though the company is in transition. Triode Wire Labs and Zavfino are both great, but might push your budget a bit. |
You guys have been great. I really appreciative all your power cord recommendations. Somewhat narrowed down to these four. Cullen crossover 2 5' About $750 for 2 cables (My AMP has 2 Cords) Audio Envy Ocean-Elite 3 P 5' Most reasonable Just under $400 2 cords Zavfino Majestic Mk2 5' 2 cables about $900 Triode Wire labs 700 plus American series 5' About $1100 2 cords I like one thing on the menu, Too many to choose from. I'm sure they are all excellent, if anyone has any thoughts, that would be great. I'm not sure why, but, Cullen seems to get my attention????? Thanks Robert TN |
Yep! Triode Wire Lab is another very good option. Robert has some terrific choices to sort through. I’m a strong advocate of improving quality of all things related to AC electrical power. It does matter. Robert, at a further point down the road when you get around to it. When you obtain a high quality LPS (For your RS2T) be sure to use a good quality power cord at this site. All of this stuff really does make a difference in my humble opinion. Charles |
Rob Patrick's father Rick Cullen works for W4S and has for quite some time after shutting down his own shop. Patrick has also worked there on occasion and done some contract for them. Not sure why he would merge with them as they are in the same town. I would also recommend Charles recommendation of the Audio Envy power cables. Give Cap a call and talk to him as he used to have a trial period. Another great internet direct cable is Triode Wire Labs. |
First growth and Charles 1 Dad Thanks so much for your help. I hope others follow this blog, as the Project RS2T is that good. I think most people (myself being one) look at the price and the diminutive size and immediately dismiss the purchase. (not to mention the quality control issues discussed) If they read this and pay attention, they will be rewarded. The blog has assisted me greatly. Charles one, I will further explore your power cable suggestions. I was going to buy and still may the Cullen Crossover 2 cable, which happens to be 10mm gauge. My only concerns is that Patrick has stated in his e mail, 2 to 3 weeks. However, after doing a little exploring, 2 to 3 weeks may mean 2 to 3 months? His company or he himself may have merged with wyred4sound.com and the back log may be a long time????? Don't know Others that I have considered in Pangea AC 95 SE Mk11 1.5 meters and Shunyata Venom HC V2 also 10 gauge. I will look into your suggestions. Thank you! If anyone else reads this post and has any suggestions, please feel free to suggest anything. I have been very educated as a result of this posting, thank you all!!!! Robert TN |
Hi Robert, That is very good news! I'm glad you hung in there for "one" more chance with the RS2T. You have a top notch CD transport to pair with your Meitner DAC. I understand why you are so happy with the sound quality. RE, power cables in your stated price range. I'd look at Audio Envy, Zavfino cables and Cullen cables for good quality in that range. For a little bit more money, Lavricables (Pure silver conductors) out of Latvia are excellent sounding. I recently acquired some and they are "quite" exceptional in my audio system. Charles |
Charles 1 dad. Nice to hear from you. The answer is YES. So far so good. I've listened for maybe about 10 hours thus far without an issue. Started listening to some CD's I haven't heard for years. Kind of opening the door that hasn't been opened in ages and discovering something new. I was afraid to say anything prematurely, lest, something bad would happen. I am very pleased thus far. Glad I didn't throw in the towel completely. Before I look into the LPS I will most likely wait until the Music Room 60 day period expires. It is on my list. Just wondering if I may pick your brain. I have an ATI 6002 model power amp,(quite robust)and am looking to replace the 2 stock power cords the unit has. Don't want to spend a lot of money in that direction,but, would like to upgrade. The only thing that makes real sense to me is a lower gauge wire cord. Most likely a 10 or 8 gauge. Any thoughts are very much appreciated. Thanks again for checking in. Robert TN Would like to stay under 6 hundred for both, if possible? Tks again |
Thanks so much for the INFO. I went to the Amazon site you listed, they look beautiful, but, you always wonder the old add-age,UGWUPF, easier to type. I think I may take the plunge and try 2 PC for my AMP as it requires 2 cords. Hope I downloaded your suggestion properly. Robert $44.85 for a 10 gauge 5' cable Amazon Hope that's right. TKS |
Hey Rob, I used to have 3 WW PCs, one WW series 7 XLR, and series 7 speaker cables. A fellow ’phile told me about these (see link), bought one then quickly the second; one between wall and PLC the other on my power amp. Cheap enough to try and can be returned. Prior to these, from another forum blog I went to, I spent hours on Ali-Express looking at cables (stupid cheap prices and free returns). I dipped my toe in the water and bought a Nordost Odin 2 Coax knock-off < $100 to replace a Pangea Coax Premier XL ($169) between my Audio Alchemy DDP-1 + PS 5 and it blew me away, this led to slowly replacing all my cables with Odin 2s knock-offs, including all but the one PC between wall and CorePower 1800 PLC, so I bought one (link below), then quickly a second one for my LSA Voyager 350 GaN amp After break in I treated all connections with Mad Scientist Audio Graphene Contact Enhancer to amazing sonic benefits hth
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@robshaw Glad to hear you are hearing the sound you wanted. Hopefully, you recovery is quick and complete. |
Yes Robert. One of my earliest realizations when I first put the RS2T in my home system. I thought, diminutive shoebox size component yielding (contributing to) a big, open and resolved soundscape. It's good to know that you are rapidly improving and feeling better. Charles |
Thank you all for your thoughts. Today is a much better day for me,(usually a healthy ox) recovering quickly i hope. A very successful day with the RS2T. Turned it on and it acted as it should. Two hours of various Rock and Roll artists. Pink Floyd, Def Leopard, Led Zeppelin. Emerson lake and Palmer, Rush, Great White etc. all playing wonderfully!!!. My fingers hurt having crossed them continually. Out of such a small box, yielding such a great sound. I stream qobuz now and again, and when I play my Cd's with this Transport, I still can't believe that they can sound this GOOD!!! For the person that asked and others, if curious. System is as follows:: Tekton Double Impacts (upgraded) SVS SB 4000 SUB, Meitner DAC MA-1, Benchmark LA-4 Line AMP, ATI 6002 AMP and of Course the RS2T CD transport. No real Hi-End cables, just good upgrades over stock, Wire World Electra power cables. My acoustics in my shop area, that I have designated as a listening area are superb, why, I have no Idea, played as everyone does with there speaker placement, just luck I guess, IN THAT REGARD. System all Balanced. Hope I can come back shortly with a positive review continuing. Robert |
Have had my BC CD3T for 6 years and nary a problem, knock on wood. Next transport will be a Heed Audio. @robshaw Hope you recover quickly.
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It's good to be back. I received my 3rd unit on 8/8/22 A black clad unit that has reportedly been checked out. On my first play on that date. Surprise, everything worked. Listened for two hours, in Heaven, hopes that's what it's like. Things just sounded great. Then the next day as I felt a little strange (if you knew me that would be hard to diagnose) I tested positive for covid, Oh boy, just delighted. Feel a little better after a couple of days. Going out this afternoon for at least and hour or two. Have my fingers crossed. I keep all posted. Wish me luck, with either or both. Have a great weekend. Robert |
I 'm curious to hear the response. I just took the plunge for a third unit a couple of days ago. They are going to check out the unit prior to shipping. Maybe, just maybe someone interjected this time and told someone, don't send this guy another unit that doesn't work. I can only hope!!! I will keep you posted when i receive it and after. Trying to establish some faith. Thanks all for helping. Robert |
Robert. You made the right decision on a third Project unit. I always noticed what I termed a third harmonic distortion on loud passages of certain CD’s. Example: Rippingtons "Buit To Last" Firefly. On loud passages could always hear an edginess with the soprano sax. Totally non existent with the Project. I still can’t believe the improvement in the sound quality of of my old eighties system. Kudos to the design engineers involved with the rs2t project. |
John and Charles 1DAD, Thanks. I am going to e mail Gunter, in a moment. That was a good idea to have him check out the forum. Another question to all. I am going to call the music room shortly and ask them this question: Should my unit need servicing,( in and out of warranty) do you (in my case) service it? do you send it out to a local service r? Do you send it back to the factory? I really am trying to keep one!!!!!! I'll keep all posted. So far only one response from MR. Rathammer, asking where did I buy it, and what country do i live in? For all those that have a working unit, ENJOY! Robert |
Hi Robert, If you don’t mind, keep us posted on their response and actions. For goodness sakes, their RS2T is a homerun in sonic performance. Now please address the QC issues folks! I’m a very happy owner but there is potential for many more if they get problems identified and corrected. Robert, you should direct him (Mr. Ratrhammer) to this thread. Charles |
John, Robert from above a couple of posts. I wish you a lot of luck. I would love to be in your position, of having to decide when to add my LPS. I'm hoping it's not to far away. As Charles 1 DAD said in his post, after hearing it, it's hard not to give it every opportunity to survive. I sincerely hope my 3rd is a winner. As I've said before, it was like having a brand new collection, no exaggeration. John, I hope you continue to have success. Don't know your DAC, but, hope a great synergy. Robert PS: I have e mailed Gunter Rathammer a high ranking officer in the project chain and he responded. I certainty hope he can help me obtain a working unit. We shall see. |
With the vast majority of audio components replacing a SMPS wall wart with a "good" quality LPS is going to result in improved sound quality. I'm unfamiliar with your specific LPS, but if a good one, then a worthwhile move. I understand your skepticism because the RS2T sounds excellent with the supplied wall wart power supply. I waited 2 months before I made the switch. It did get even better with my replacement Fidelizer Nickola II LPS. Charles |
I have an old Lambda LG531 20 volt linear regulated power supply waiting in the wings to power the RS2T. Ordered a couple of mini XLR connectors to interface with the player. I want to wait the full 60 days of the return policy before connecting the Lambda. It is both current and voltage regulated. I'm not sure that I will be able to hear the difference.
Regards, John |
I completely understand the cautious sentiment toward the RS2T given what’s been reported here lately. I feel very fortunate that I haven’t had those problems. I also understand the desire to give a final chance toward the RS2T. Robert has actually “heard” the transport in his own system. Just as @johnlcnm reported above, sound quality is simply fantastic. Once you have witnessed this with your own ears in your system you want to maintain it. But to be perfectly candid, quality control and reliability are significant concerns. Given what I know about this product , I would make the same decision as Robert.Yes, one more chance. If successful you have a truly splendid sounding CD transport. Another failure? Time to move on! I would then pursue the Jay’s Audio flagship CDT3 rather than their CDT2 MK III. May as well go for their best offering. Charles |
kingdeezie: Yes it does, and you are correct. My wife and I had a similar argument (discussion, she made me put that in) We were both on the fence, that said, one more time, only because I heard the SOUND!! I wish I had a listen to the new BIG JAY"S unit. People have said that the smaller Jay's unit is not as good as the project RS2T, which makes mean lean towards the Big one. I guess time will tell. A lot of the transport/DAC's some people are recommending are very good, I'm Sure. But, i really like my Meitner MA-1, so all I need is a good transport. Robert |
+1 kingdeezie build quality seems like an afterthought , especially given its price. A shame given the apparent sound quality that it produces. I went from a Cambridge CXC to a Simaudio 260DT , built really well and a nice step up in SQ, added to by switching from its SPDIF to AES/EBU connection. No idea how it compares to the Project or the Jay's SQ wise, but if I make another move I will try the Jay's top model given the questionable build of the Project that continues to be reported |
John, so happy for you. I have been using my 6000 cdt audiolab, probably similar to your Cambridge. I know the joy your experiencing with the RS2T,as I did the same. Like having a new CD collection. I am going to try a third unit soon, as soon as the Music Room gets one. I hope the 3rd is the charm. Two have already gone back. BEST OF LUCK, I'm jealous. Enjoy Robert |
John, Numerous factors are responsible for the high quality sound you’re hearing. In my humble opinion, I believe that the major contributing factor is the latest Stream Unlimited CD Pro-8 drive and Blue Tiger-84 servo card integrated unit. I hope that your RS2T continues to perform flawlessly (As has been my experience thus far). Congratulations! Charles |
RobShaw. Received my RS2T Thursday. The Bad: I could hear something rolling around before I opened the box. Opened the top on the RS2T and surprise, there is a long screw rolling around in the unit. Found its resting place, - one of the screws that holds the top door hinge. Turns out the little torx tool that comes with the unit was the correct fit for the wondering screw. Damn Germans and their torx. Anyway, both screws were loose. Corrected same. The Good: The unit was not damaged by the screw. Been flawless in its operation. I cant believe how much better this unit sounds then my Cambridge CXC. What are these folks doing that improves the sound quality of a stupid transport? Secret internal DSP? Very happy with the results. I'm using the AES output to a Schiit Yggy. Old Threshold S-500 amp. Regards, John |
Pro-Ject gear has always struck me as vastly overpriced given its sub-par build quality and reliability that seem to be the stereotype of products manufactured in former Eastern Bloc countries. I’m sure they’ll get there, but they don’t seem to be there yet. FWIW Pro-Ject’s headquarters is in Austria but their factories are in Slovakia and the Czech Republic. If you’re shopping in the $3K price range for a CD transport/player, why not look at some of the Japanese-built gear from the long-time players like CEC, Denon, Marantz, Technics, Luxman, Esoteric and the like? Heck, Music Direct has the Marantz SA-KI Ruby on sale for $3K right now which is a staggeringly good deal for the quality on offer. The Denon DCD-A110 is also a phenomenally high-quality component with performance to match. There are so many options to look at in this segment beyond Pro-Ject that’ll deliver the experience you’re looking for. Given your experience with Pro-Ject, I’d recommend you start looking elsewhere. |
@robshaw Not sure how TMR is going to be able to answer your question, but good luck with it. In the interim , below is the Audiogon link to every Jay’s Audio thread where you should be able to get a read on their transports
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Thanks all. After having the taste of honey, and then having it taken away!!! Will most likely contact The Music room, and asking " How do I get a WORKING model of the RS2T????? Then wondering about each of the JAY'S units? Tweak 1 suggested $899 DS3 CD player from project. I'm sure if dollars and cents mean anything, it is a much lesser unit that the RS2T. How do you defeat the player aspect and use it just as a transport, all my hook ups are Balanced on my Benchmark LA-4 line AMP. If anyone can comment on the Jay's units, that would be great. Tks |