@tsushima1 :  Are you inferring that MC must be the puppet master behind the scenes of this thread and the Nanoflo saga? 

Merely noting the association.

Yep and there are black helicopters flying over his house.

Quite MC will hear you.

@tsushima1 :  Are you inferring that MC must be the puppet master behind the scenes of this thread and the Nanoflo saga? 

@twoleftears : Both non-synthetic and synthetic lubricants need to be classified as "food grade" before it can be used in food and beverage manufacturing plants. Being classified as a food-grade lubricant means that the grease is not toxic when consumed and it doesn't have toxic additives like lead, lithium and zinc.

We need an MSDS sheet and by law he would have to provide one. 

FWIW. 

I ordered Nanoflo 4/2.

I received it 4/6.

Krissy handled the entire transaction including confirmation email with tracking number.

I applied nanoflo to my entire system and achieved an excellent  result. 

And oh yea, tastes like chicken 

 

 

LOL. 

Man, if you guys made a movie of this thread, you'd win a Oscar...

@ghasley 

Simply amazing…make it up as you go along. Make claim, test afterward.

After reading your rude comments here and on the Diamondback thread, and after checking all my email accounts for your anticipated correspondence but not seeing any, I retract my kind offer to send you a free sample, but it's up on eBay should you ever want to experience something lightyears ahead pf Total Contact. And it wont give you cancer either.

I will have fuses up on ebay next week, and once I get a few thousand bottles filled I'm off to the big A.

Warmest Regards,

The new kid on the block.

I perceived an increase in dynamic range after application to only 6 rca ends. I can listen at much lower levels without feeling the need to jack the volume up as much as before the application. Is the gain in percieved dynamic contrasts the same as "Louder'?  Cannot remove and measure and then reapply and measure again because nano particles may not be able to be totaly removed..and then the fact I dont have any more to reapply to measure again. I trust my ears and experience with  my body as a listening tool.Tom

I would rather trust a measurement, then the testimony of someone making seemingly wild claims.

But then there is no going back now, as application has all the mythical elements of Achilles being dunked in the river Stix.

 

 

And oh yea, tastes like chicken

OI know chicken and snake can seem to have a similar flavour.

@nano-flo 

 

You have little to no credibility. You have yet to answer the question. Claims of increased electrical conductivity and yet, you have no proof. You have been asked repeatedly “how do you know electrical conductivity is increased” and “please share the before and after data you relied upon to make the claim” and so far….crickets. Communicate the data or don’t, no big deal to me. The $1000 power cable you now offer for a $5 throw away home depot cable was “a bridge too far”. You should be ashamed that you even thought that was a good idea. 

Holmz,

Do you have a list of measurement tests for electrical components or conductive polymers that correlates line by line to descriptive adjectives that gives you the magic answers you seek? Tom

 

I will treat the cables I already own and have used for 10 years or more. I imagine their fully broken in by now so any addition to the contacts should be easily heard. Tom

With someone claiming, without hesitation, that a contact enhancer increased their audible volume or dynamic range is it any surprise these charlatans exist?

Back to the main subject of this thread, Nanoflo.

I received mine a few days ago but it was only yesterday I was able to work on applying it. I first cleaned the contacts of my mains plugs, iec's etc with iso prophyll alcohol. I was surprized how much dirt came off onto the cotton buds.

I applied Nanoflo to the one fuse that powered my audio sockets, a 30 amp fuse, in my main control panel (again after cleaning it). After nanoflo completion I tried a TV in an adjacent room that runs off the mains fuse and the picture was sharper and brighter than before, had to tone sharpness and colour down a bit.

Back to the audio side. I applied Nanoflo to my PS Audio regenerator internal fuse and it's mains plug, plus all the mains plugs running off the regenerator. I also did the mains prongs in the receiving equipment, cd transport, dac, pre-amp, power amps etc and the music XLR interconnects. Lastly I did my speakers and a pair of Tannoy supertweeters that sit on top of them. There's also a pair of SR XOT crossovers hanging off the speakers, also done, of course. Speakers connections going into the power amps were also done.

Listening, powered it all up and starting listening, I knew something was wrong as sound was quite spacey and out of phase but I let it run for an hour. Turned out I'd wired one of the speaker connections going into the amp the wrong way round. Sound now was what I expected.  I turned it off at that point.

Max Townsend of Townsend Audio, (passed away recently), says that if you've moved your power cords or interconnect cables it takes at least a day for your system to come back to normal.

My system also doubles as my home cinema setup, with the pre-amp having an av bypass that allows my mains speakers to be my front left and right speakers for movie watching. I subsequently watched the new Spiderman movie later and finishing that I played a couple of CD's, 50th anniversary Sgt Peppers and Rolling Stones, 40 licks, disc one. I know these two discs extremely well and they sounded like I know them, except different. Volume level was the same but I was hearing more detail. The backing vocals in Sgt Pepper came through much clearer. I just had a feeling of being closer to the music. On the Stones discs I play 4 or 5 favourites, Street Fighting Man, Gimme Shelter, Paint it Black, Honky Tonk Women and It's All Over Now. Again, these came through clearer than I've ever heard before. At this point the music was so razor sharp, not in a bad way, that the speakers were disappearing and everything was in the room. The sound stays the same as you know, just more detail coming through

I think Tom mentioned earlier in the thread that the sound continues to improve for about 6 -7 days. I'm looking forward to hearing how mine progresses but even now I'm very happy with what Nanoflo does to my system and that was around 12 hours after application of Nanoflo.

Chris in onto a winner here.

 

Actually, it was the cleaning of the contacts that made the difference, not the no-name goop that you applied to them afterwards.

BTW, if you play CDs, try polishing them with ArmorAll.  It transforms them.  Really.

I would like to assume you are kidding.

 

After nanoflo completion I tried a TV in an adjacent room that runs off the mains fuse and the picture was sharper and brighter than before, had to tone sharpness and colour down a bit.

I saw a video improvement after an application of nps 1260 so the Sheridd2 experience is of no suprise.. I will remove 1260 and replace with Nanoflo when more is available for sale. Tom

Holmz,

Do you have a list of measurement tests for electrical components or conductive polymers that correlates line by line to descriptive adjectives that gives you the magic answers you seek? Tom

I have a volt meter.

Magic descriptions, I suppose require and magic answers… and I am well out numbered here on the magic front.

This thread reads like a mix of a Jerry Springer episode, and something by Philip K Dick. But the Dick novels were were less schizophrenic

In fact the line by line descriptions almost have the look-n-feel of all being penned by the same hand.

@theaudiotweak so you are willing to do business with someone like Chris? So, I guess you grade character on a curve?

 

@holmz +1

No, I’m not kidding. There was live snooker on the TV and it was really sharp. Now the TV is Samsung Q9F fed off a PS Audio Dectet with a Bybee iQSE sitting on the Connect box and the picture and sound going through a Sonos system is superb.

I know the picture and sound really well as it’s used a lot and I could see a change in the picture. Didn’t really get to test the sound out at that stage as I was more interested in checking the stereo system.

Elaborating a bit on my earlier review of the music system, tonally the system hasn’t changed, which was one of my concerns that Nanoflo might affect this. I’ve worked hard to get my system were it is and I didn’t want the sound to be changed. Nanoflo doesn’t change the sound, it just gives you more of what you already have.

@sheridd2 

 

Its a good thing you like the result. Earlier postings in this thread seem to indicate the treatment is irreversible.

 

What exactly motivated you to purchase this product? Was it the mountain of testimonials from “credible” sources or the amazing sets of data provided by Nano-Flo showing before and after results?

 

 

 

Am I supposed to stop my written  descriptions of what has been a great part of my life living and working in audio? My writings are about the product  benefits and not of its maker. His comments on this thread are a detriment to his product:'s acceptance. Tom

 

I’ve loads of tweaks in my system and pretty much happy with all of them. I was going to buy / try the HFC Q45T contact enhancer but it disappeared just as I was about to purchase. The thread on that, the 1260 predecessor material, lead me to this thread.

Reports seem to indicate that Nanoflo was at least as good as the Q45T. I’m happy I tried it and looking forward to how the sound of my system will improve over the next week. I was very happy with it last night, after only around twelve hours after the application of Nanoflo.

@ghasley 

What exactly motivated you…

 

 

 

@holmz unfortunately it is painfully obvious why Chris, after having wrung all the dollars he could from the 200MPG carburettor crowd is now targeting audiophiles.

The information is readily available that diamond is an insulator but people want to believe in magic, hence the 200MPG carburettor even though this little thing called thermodynamics revealed it would not work.

It is like the little kid and the stove, except some people keep touching the stove even after being burned.

Tom suggested I change the color of NanoFlo to make it easier to see when applying, so now it's green, but don't eat it because it only looks like Key Lime pie, it's for electrical contacts and audio.

Chris

To anyone that received NanoFlo WITHOUT either a price label or Large white License agreement label over the top of the sealed plastic baggie, please contact me privately off list as you may have been cheated by overpaying.

Chris 

@sheridd2 I get similar results after cleaning all the cable connections in my system with DeoxIT - every 18 months or so.

Yet, I do believe cable connections can be improved with a well-designed contact enhancer. In due time, I’ll probably try Q45T.

Nano-Flo totally lost credibility with his $1000 power cord - soon to be $1500. It’s obvious that he’s overreached.

Not in the same league as Purist, Synergistic, Dynamic Designs, Furutech, Oyaide, etal. He has yet to understand that the connectors are as important to a cable as the wire and wire geometry - to influence SQ. He’s probably never heard of ETI Research - or KLEI - or ATL.

@steakster  Nano-Flo totally lost credibility with his $1000 power cord 

Nest week if it tests out to be no better than a $10 Amazon cord I will apologize to everyone publicly, pull it from ebay, not list them on Amazon and definitely not send any more to studios and musicians for their opinions. Main tests will be posted on my website regardless, but I expect to see what has happened in the past testing, to continue in this lab too.

The new kid

 

 

 

@nano-flo - just because I got a trial with neither of what you describe, doesn't mean I was cheated. Krissy isn't perfect fair enough (nor are we), don't go branding her a thief.

Also, don't pee in my pocket and tell me you've just given me a mobile fish tank.
The $1000 power cord is sold legally in a free market, it doesn't mean it's particularly good value for money, and I shouldn't tell my friends to watch out if I believe it's not worthy?

I can research and DIY a lot of things, almost always if the price isn't cost prohibitive I'll happily part with the money. And if it works sufficiently well, representing value for money, I'm likely to share my experiences with friends, and way less likely to try and DIY or even sell it. Reducing your exposure and gaining positive word of mouth advertising is not a bad way to do business, would be my guess?

@everyoneelse
RixTheTrick is about to go on a speculative journey, first of all, before launch, I operate on the premise that everyone is a friend (we may not have met yet, or they just don't know it yet).

Nasa during it's space program discovered it had a problem when there was cold welding on a space shuttle, nano welding. There's plenty of evidence of this online, I won't bore you with details. It read as though the materials themselves couldn't differentiate between whether of not they are supposed to be one piece or not, and so just became one, without the oxidised layer to keep them separated.

Making leaps here, and you can call me on it, but here goes: Almost all interconnects into connectors are dissimilar metals, there are known reflections in cables and metals, and you can do your own research on this too. The skin despite cleaning oxidises immediately or has another film differentiating it from the conductor it's passing signal through, otherwise it too would cold weld.

It is possible that a non conductive nano product doesn't add to conductivity because it's incredibly conductive, it may be that like the cold welding, by removing an obstacle (in the case of space welding, oxidised contact surfaces ) that hasn't been considered/discussed that the signal has less degradation or interactions to the signal? 

As I've heard nanoflo myself, I know what it has done in my system.
Perhaps Chris may or may not have had shady advertising or dealings, hell it's all unknown to me personally. I paid for it after a free trial, and it was through and supporting a friend, but if I'd heard nothing I wouldn't have paid what I did for it.

It's evident that I'm not a fan of Chris's business practices, but also taking into account I do consider you all friends (even the ones who enjoy giving me a hard time because I befriend whose they consider outcasts or worse) I write. Because it works so well, I am not going to withhold the truthfully disclosed benefits to those confused on whether nano flo the product is beneficial.

The moral dilemma rests in your hands, whether you want invest in it despite this thread, all of our interactions. I for one will attest to the product I received as having immediate and impressive positive results, for the particular purpose I have used it for.

@deludedaudiophile - I am sorry to disagree with you and even a mate from my homeland and others who simply take issue with the manufacturer. I have weighed it up, and consider the personal benefits of the many outweigh the rewarding of practices I don't particularly like. The product in this case, for this purpose specifically does what it's claimed to from posts I've read.

This of course doesn't mean that many complaints, assertions and accusations leveled at the man doesn't befit him, that's not for me to know.

Evidently, like Fox Mulder said, some people really do want to believe.  Only the thing is, they want to believe that Apollo 11 never landed on the moon, that the CIA did for JFK, that Sarah Palin reads magazines, and that nano-flo is the NEXT BIG THING.  I suspect that it gives them a warm and fuzzy feeling just to think that they know something that most people don't, and no amount of reasoning is going to persuade them otherwise.  So there will always be a limited clientele for purveyors of this sort of product, more's the pity.

@nano-flo

 

@steakster Nano-Flo totally lost credibility with his $1000 power cord

Nest week if it tests out to be no better than a $10 Amazon cord I will apologize to everyone publicly, pull it from ebay, not list them on Amazon and definitely not send any more to studios and musicians for their opinions. Main tests will be posted on my website regardless, but I expect to see what has happened in the past testing, to continue in this lab too.

The new kid

Often times Chris, reputable organizations test for efficacy prior to making claims of efficacy. What tests are you referring to above? You haven't performed any tests! 

 

Would you please set the stage for the test to come so that the public may evaluate the results?

 

Who is performing the tests?

 

Were they furnished with two cords? One $5 Home Depot power cable and one $5 Home Depot power cable treated with Nano-Flo? Did the two cables measure identically prior to the application of Nano-Flo to the one? Rudimentary knowledge of quality control methods for a Chinese made mass produced $1 at wholesale ($1 may be generous) might cast doubt on positive or negative findings since your initial approach might not capture an appropriate baseline measurement between the two cables.

 

I am interested in the baseline electrical conductivity versus the improved electrical conductivity change you initially claimed prior to having the data.

 

It would also be helpful for you to explain what was treated on the power cord. I assume it was the contacts since the photos of the cords seem to indicate they were molded at manufacture which would prohibit the treatment of anything internal to the cable.

 

Listen, to all the sincere believers for the now key-lime "contact enhancer", more power to you. Enjoy your systems in any way you like, you’ll get no flack from me. Awesome. Heck, it would even be great to learn that it cures the common cold although after several days of implying otherwise, its now not advised to drink it.

 

Once again, to be clear. I dont know Krissy, I don’t know Chris, its obvious their business relationship was never formalized appropriately or it wouldn’t have been so easy to separate. I have not used any "contact enhancers" in the past and I have no skin in the game either way. It should be painfully obvious by now that if I didn’t have any desire to take up Chris’s generous offer previously for a free sample it is unlikely that I would ever spend money to try it in the future.

 

The only thing that truly bugs me is the aggressive "here I am" entrance and the claims made in advance of any testing otherwise. Chris has clearly stated that his Lexus’ car stereo is his only system and asks you to take him at his word for something he has no knowledge of. Do so at your own risk because this has every marker of a carnival midway.

 

I have never met a world class chef who uses a Ginsu knife...and I’ve never met a wold class manufacturer of audio equipment who uses Ginsu contact enhancer. We have, however, seen countless instances where great audio companies include power cables with their gear FOR FREE similar to the one Nano is trying to sell for $1,000 and up. You pays your money, its your party.

 

@rixthetrick I find you to be a great guy and I also believe you (and to some extent Tom) to be sincere gentlemen. Unfortunately, I never stick around long enough when I see a "faith healer" in action...its probably my loss.

 

It now appears that the amazing power cord now comes in a version 2.0. The photo of the Nano-Flo power cable from earlier last week now seems to have a cover heatshrinked onto the same cable. No one should be skeptical though...especially considering the below description of the cable taken directly from the Nano-Flo website. Please take note of the comment about cable coverings and the extra attention paid to the ad copy which seemingly missed the spelling of "lengths". Making it up on the fly exposes all the sausage making...

 

NanoFlo tm RFI inhibiting Power Cable with 10 year warranty. Standard lenghts $1500.00

This unassuming plain jane power cable (in final production stage) outperforms those costing thousands more, and it does it with our unique, exclusive Nano technology available only at NanoFlo. You can’t see our technology but you will hear the difference. No fake coverings, caps or lights sticking out, just quality you can hear.

Backed with a 30-day money back Guarantee!

 

www.nano-flo.com

 

 

 

@ghasley - are you kidding me? hahahaha
Yeah, again, nobody in the World would suspect it’s the same cord in a different dress. Standard lengths because his "manufacturing processes can’t make them custom lengths".

Maybe he's marketing to those who aren't intelligent enough to afford $1500 of disposable income??


Don’t pee in my pocket and claim you’ve gifted me a mobile fish tank Chris.

@rixthetrick I know right? This guy Chris must not quite get what some of us have been saying. I don’t know whether the now green juice makes a positive difference in some systems or no difference but he is in credibility free fall on the power cord.

 

NanoFlo tm blind test produced a 100% success rating!

Chris, care to share the testing methodology for the blind tests?

Can’t wait to see the fuses...

@ghasley - funnily enough I suggested food dye to Krissy some days ago, in the same colour. Otherwise the stuff is almost invisible in tiny amounts.

Hope this thread is entertaining, regardless of tension, and thoroughly funny rebuttal. We were all blind with anger when we found Krissy was dumped,
I'm guessing not what you meant?

HaPpY EaSteR everyone!

@rixthetrick I'm sure Chris was already planning it, what with the methodical, careful and well thought out development approach he seemingly utilizes.

@nano-flo

 

Seeking clarification for those who may be inclined to order your products:

Fuses that you need with our unique nano Power Flow technology with 30 day money back guarantee and exclusive 90 day warranty. It it fails within 90 days return it unaltered for a free replacement and manufacturer guidance, pick your values.

5x20mm & 6.3x32mm $199 each

NanoFlo tm technology makes all the difference! You get the fuse you need within two weeks or you money back.

In the above fuse ad copy, you seem to imply that you can get your money back only if it fails. (you probably meant "your" money back rather than "you" money back). You also generously offer money back if it doesn't arrive in two weeks. What if it arrives in 2.5 weeks...who pays return shipping? Whereas under your warranty ad copy below...

 

WARRANTY

We strive to produce the highest quality audio products and outperform the competitors with our 24 years of experience in nano manufacturing. If our exclusive nanotechnology doesn’t live up to your expectations, return it unaltered in the provided shipping case within 30days for a full refund less shipping. Contact us for an RMI number before return, but we know you’ll love the new sound.

Does this mean that any and all Nano-Flo products may be returned within 30 days for a full refund? Also, did you mean "RMI" or "RMA"?

 

What is "unique nano Power Flow technology"? You haven't tested for any power efficacy as of the date you post that on your website???

 

 

 

NanoFlo tm blind test produced a 100% success rating!

Chris, care to share the testing methodology for the blind tests?

Can’t wait to see the fuses...

 

Can I interest anyone in swamp land in Florida?

There will be no properly done blind testing, there will no properly done electrical testing. It’s the same as his snake oil claims w.r.t. automotive, like vehicles increasing in HP 30%, or fuel economy going from 5mpg to 8mpg for a semi. Anyone with a hint of thermodynamics or who knows the difference between fluid and contact lubrication/resistance will understand these claims are science fiction.

The only "test" that appears to have had any sort of control showed about 1.9% improvement, which is actually tolerable but can me matched by regular lubricants. For some reason, that result was quickly pulled. Strange huh?

Something tells me the leopard has not changed his spots and I would not jump in the cage with him .... he sees you as "food grade".

 

 

What is the website for the product Nano flo?  The site I saved seems to have gone dead.

ozzy

@rixthetrick I find you to be a great guy and I also believe you (and to some extent Tom) to be sincere gentlemen. Unfortunately, I never stick around long enough when I see a "faith healer" in action...its probably my loss

Both here, and with faith healers, we read things that are essentially the ravings of lunatics… Things that would have normal people committed to institutions.

I don’t know whether it is better to fleece people with no empathy, or to believe in this stuff.

OCD Mikey has this Nano Fools number.

 

And at 0.48 cents a foot:

OCD is just another form of crazy. Trust my crazy, not my other guys crazy.

I take issue with Mikey on contact treatments. I do agree with his use of Sistrum Platforms under his speakers and some of his main components. He loves the benefits of direct coupling..I am a member of SoundStageAudio.com ..Tom

 

From Ebay,

A word about nano. Nano means billionth. Ten to the negative 12th. Most so-called “nano” products are actually micro (ten to the negative 9th) or even milli (ten to the negative 6th). NanoFlo™ is true nano. A thousand to ten thousand times smaller. The surface area available for conducting the audio signal is exponentially greater with NanoFlo™ than any other material currently available on the market. THIS IS THE SECRET TO ITS OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE!

@jerryg123  great video 😄