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Mitigating the Bubble
Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage. While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .
I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses. I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s. ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.
So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system. Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone. Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage.
I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency.
Tom
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Such a shame that you find yourself in an untenable position. You can still do the right thing and feel good about the outcome. With ebay involved, its inevtiable that you will be refunding @glory You are choosing between your cable company dream ending right here or being able to save face and claiming an unfortunate misunderstanding. Every choice to get to now has been yours. Think about what you are doing. |
@ghasley ahhh… like the quote about “winning the battle and loosing the war”? |
A Happy Christmas eve to you. Is this the day that you think about right and wrong, that you you think about how you might like to be treated if you were on the receiving end of the egregious treatment to which you are subjecting @glory ?
You are either unwilling to honor your money back return guarantee or you are unable. If you are unwilling, you should be ashamed and rectify this situation immediately. If you are unable for financial reasons then that is a different conversation but nonetheless a conversation that should be taking place.
If you are unwilling then I truly hope that the audio community takes note and with SO MANY power cable choices on the market, that they choose an option from an ethical company and an ethical person.
If you are unable to repay your obligation, then you should make arrangements to pay @glory back for your failure to honor your guarantee. No one forced you to offer the money back return guarantee, you did it as a way to entice potential buyers. If you spent the money, paid a medical bill, bought Christmas presents for an orphanage…whatever you did with the money, there is no escaping your obligation.
POTENTIAL NANOFLO CABLE BUYERS, do your due diligence. Chris Arnold and NANOFLO isn’t honoring his word.
To those who have touted Nanoflo, are you proud of Mr. Arnold’s conduct? |
@nano-flo I would hope you could find your way out of this mess. Your company is not going to be sustainable conducting business the way you do.
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A Merry Christmas to you. How do you feel today on this day where so many think of others before themselves? The irony here Chris shouldn’t escape anyone, that your name Christopher finds its origins many centuries ago and literally translates to “Christ bearer”. SO, when we are asked if we are upholding our name, what will you say?
Chris, you owe @glory money and you are not honoring your money back guarantee on his return of these cables. There is still time for you to act before EBAY and PAYPAL do it for you. If you wait then no one will draw the conclusion that you are honorable…
To all of the Audiogon community, have a great day and know that we must all do our due diligence when making a purchase. Nanoflo, Enterprise Coatings and Chris Arnold deserve extra scrutiny. Peace. |
Yes Merry Christmas @nano-flo today is a very special day for those of that are Christian. Today could be special for you and you could send your company down the ethical path and on the road to redemption. Just by doing the right thing and honor your word, honor your company’s policies and issue @glory his refund. This could just be a detour and you can bring your company back on to the road of ethics and integrity, or you can just keep rolling down this dirty, dusty bumpy, backroad. Choice is yours and every day you delay, the longer it will take for you to repair the damage you caused. To all in the Audiophile community, EBay, Etsy, the Audiophile reviewers I would steer clear of any product that Chis Arnold, Nano Flo or any of his other company aliases, that are located in Lombard Illinois. I hope we do not hear of any more victims of this Chris Arnold’s predatory business practices.
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Let me fill you in more on what is really going on here. All of Chris's old endeavours and websites are available to see via Internet Archive or Wayback Machine. He claims to have invented a lubricant solution using spherical nano diamond particles. I do not know how good his product was, but the general idea is legit. Microscopic NM size particles which can polish and plate the insides of bearings and engines is not an original concept and there is many successfully products that do this. In 2006-2012 he had a series of nano diamond lubricant products (under the names NanoLube, DiamondLube, QuantumCoat) targeting the automotive markets with oil additives, armament industry with gun/knife lubricants e.t.c But this is a heavily saturated and competitive market. So in late 2021 Chris discovered the Audiophile world, with its huge margins, 10x markup, and saw easy green pastures. So he pulled all his previous retail products, and now just does audio only. A $20 power cable with nano diamond coating on the prongs for $1500 e.t.c I sincerely hope the product is good and this is a superior contact enhancer solution for audiophiles. But Chris past history, and how he has acted here, so far show all the signs of him being a grifter. The fact he has pulled the contact enhancer product and is now just selling $4000 power cables and a soon to be released line of fuses (which will be $1 fuses with the contact goop polished into them) shows where this is all going. |
Very prophetic. |
@thecarpathian Merry Christmas and I like your post.
I hear the sound of a toilet flushing... |
Merry Christmas to all Audiogon members
Do all that’s within you to live at peace with all men. Here’s my writings to Chris yesterday.
Good afternoon Chris, Merry Christmas. A Christmas proposition for you: Reimburse me for one cable and make sure it’s gooped up and also a full vile of goop and ship back to me. Rest assured, I am NOT in the in the market to steal Nano Flo from you and start a cable company. I’m 69 years old, retired and I don’t need the hassle of doing something like that, stealing from you. That’s not on my agenda you can see by my audiogone Feedback I don’t do members wrong.. I’m a pretty upright straight shooter. It’s not in my DNA to steal as I’ve been a business owner, operator for over 30 years as a high-end paint contractor and I’ve never screwed anyone. I in return will have Audiogon delete the whole thread that’s online and before it’s deleted I will write in, refund received by Chris Arnold, everything is cool and thanks everyone for your input. I would then write a positive review of your work and submit it to you before posting with no hint of our conflict. Each of us will have to trust each other that we are upright business owners and that in the end we always do the right thing .
Chris was selling a full vile of goop at $900.00 before he yanked the goop. He would still be $600.00 ahead on the refund but I wanted to cast this line in the waters to see if he would at least respond.
😳🙈🙄 Crickets Now I await PP to do their thing.
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May I be blunt @glory ? Here we go:
You will NEVER get the money back from the grifter. Period. If you are incapable of getting the money back from official sources (eBay, PayPal, credit card company), you are out of your money. Does this seem straight forward to you? |
His now ad on EBay is a game changer in my favor with PP. He now has a protocol on buying his cables that he didn’t when I bought. He messed up by his own writings.
Warning: If your system has had any contact enhancer applied to it, such as Perfect Path Technologies or Schultz products, it must be 100% removed before installing our cable or warranty is void, and no returns are allowed. All discounted sales are final. Check out our first negative feedback in 20 years at the end of description. I got no instructions on such matters when I opened the box of cables.
I refrain from any more posts here. |
@nano-flo You will pay one day. And I think it will be sooner than later. God frowns on predators and that is what you are. Eye for an eye. Enjoy the lake of fire.
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All of us in this community are just trying to help you get your money back while also trying sincerely to help other would be victims of @nano-flo to avoid the same fate that you are wading through. With that said, are you following the EBAY and Paypal rules and are you communicating with Chris directly or through EBAY’s messaging system?
In either case, I’m disappointed that you just turned a simple and clear cut breach of contract issue between you, Chris and Ebay into a NEW negotiation between you and Chris. You do realize that’s what you just did right? If Chris accepts, especially if you communicated with him outside the EBAY messaging system then EBAY can just wash their hands of your issue. Did you place a time limit for Chris to respond or did you leave it open ended? No big deal to me because, if you recall earlier in this thread, several of us turned down the offer of a free cable from Chris/Nanofflo. That showed our commitment to your cause and our commitment to integrity and character. I want nothing to do with him or his questionable products/reputation.
I’ve been happy to assist by posting at least daily about @nano-flo ’s misdeeds as well as to sound the alarm about Chris and his inability to keep his word. My commitment to do so was open ended. Respectfully though, I have absolutely no desire to help you negotiate a new deal. I was posting because you seemed to need help because you had been taken advantage of. I also find it very poor form to offer him positive feedback, especially to someone so ill deserving of same, in exchange for him doing a new deal with you. Chris deserves negative feedback but if you were to ever post something positive about your dealings with him because you had received something less than you paid for but for less than what you were promised, then you would be willingly perpetuating his dishonest behavior. Someone could get burned down the road and you would have perhaps made it possible. All we have to rely on is honest and forthright feedback.
I wish you well @glory and while I can’t speak for others like @jerryg123 @thecarpathian @nonoise @agisthos @thyname @holmz , I don’t think I will be assisting any longer. I do reserve the right the slam @nano-flo should he crawl out from wherever he’s been hiding. |
@ghasley , +1. I would have gone the official route strictly through PP and eBay. His actions already established there will be no compromise. Best of luck to you as you are a good man, but that was a misguided thing to do. |
He didn’t respond yesterday so I withdrew my offer. I stand corrected as I am new to such things as this. Nothing moves him but the legal way and that being PP. I was hoping for some kind of redemption from all this but I was wrong. Showing him some kind of grace in all this was foolish thinking on my part. I am in direct contact with EBay and PP now. I will no longer text or communicate with him but through PP only.
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@ghasley I am not I sure I was ever assisting. Then shift to now, and people are dog piling on about how the fellow may not be honest. |
My wife had me on the phone with EBay within 10 minutes. How do they (wife) manage to do that when I couldn’t get them?
ebay is hot on it and I only needed to supply them with info that I shipped them back within the 30 days from FedEx with their tracking number.
I am sure he will continue to say I altered them by wiping the goop off but that’s not altering them. PP closed my case as they wanted by 12/16/2022 info of receipt I shipped them. They are reopening the case.😳🙈🙄 what’s todays date? 12/27/2022??? |
@glory : good! You are taking the steps you should have taken weeks ago. Better late than never, as they say. |
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I am hearing this @nano-flo is now moving on to Non-Stick Cookware... His latest get rich quick scheme will be pitched on Shark Tank. |
@jerryg123 oh my, how funny... |
It has the added advantage of being pre-greased... |
Gary’s generous Christmas Eve offer and his altered offer for the group are both Extortion and show he never understood my gel is not for sale. He also never mentioned he wiped my gel off the cable ends despite the disclaimer on his receipt NOT to do so. He asked for some gel to re coat and refused my refund offer and wanted the two cables. After receiving .1 ml of gel he wanted to pay for more but when I refused he without notice returned the two holographic cables after stripping the gel off. |
@nano-flo You have just entered this industry and are busy destroying your reputation with this nonsense. Just give him his refund. Its only a $10 cable with gel on it, you are not out of pocket on this. |
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@nano-flo good luck with the nonstick cookware. I hear Lori Greiner on Shark Tank will be passing on it though, she is a real inventor and entrepreneur and can smell a fraud from Lombard 1000 mile away. |
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@nano-flo actually do not buy into your snake oil bs cables. My Zavfino Silver Darts are fantastic. Your business is done slick. Should have listened to Chuck. Sad little man. |
@nano-flo your ignorance is astounding. So how many post, how many pages here and that’s the best you have. You are functionally illiterate in both the English language and business. You completely lack honor or integrity. Your sociopathic tendencies come right out in your last post. Pay @glory and go away, you are nothing more than a Carnival Barker. Selling drill bits at the state fair. |
A few facts, if you don’t mind letting facts get in the way. 1) You posted an ad on Ebay for a power cable with your Nanoflo treatment applied 2) You did so initially with an unconditional money-back guarantee 3) @glory and you agreed to a severe discounted price at less than half of your ask 4) @glory decided for whatever reason to return the cables for a refund 5) Between you and @glory there were some zigs and zags about possible other sub-deals and modifications but based on the commentary, it doesn’t appear any of those other variations were agreed to by either party 6) You flatly refuse to refund in spite of you initally having no terms or conditions 7) You subsequently have changed your terms and conditions to make it more difficult so maybe @glory isn’t the only requested refund in process 8) You have visions of grandeur about the value of a mild abrasive suspended in Vaseline as an effective “contact enhancer” 9) You may or may not sell alot of these to unsuspecting and perhaps foolish buyers who purchase in spite of your willingness to abide by your own terms so buyer beware 10) You are indeed displaying the classic behavior of the stubborn child unable to see the forest for the trees but that’s ok, no sweat off most of us because there is no desire to provide capital to a charade 11) Your best strategy is to refund @glory and hope that none of the others who will want a refund do their due diligence but I actually am holding out hope that you don’t…not because I want @glory to be harmed but rather I want there to be a clear cut pattern of behavior established by you so that decent hifi folks will avoid you and your products 12) What’s hilarious is you actually believe you have some superior intellect when, to those who take a milisecond to review your communications and your track record, we are left shaking our heads in laughter 13) You have no special product unless you were to market it as some sort of surface polish and lubricant which enhances the connection by effectively sanding microscopic surface anomolies but of course, you wouldn’t know because you have no credible scientific background nor expertise in any applicable field 14) I hope you keep posting your jr high replies and retorts so people get an absoltuely clear picture of who you are. In the unlikely event I encounter an employee with the traits you frquently display, they are soon unemployed. It isn’t worth the effort to try and convince them they weren’t hired to retool the company, just to mop and empty the trash 15) I’m sure you’ll make a little money here and there and those who are secretly backing your endeavor (because you wouldn’t know the first thing about how to build a cable nor are you likely to have the working capital to launch a lawn service let alone a viable cable company) may be able to stick a sock in that pie-hole long enough to sell a few. I very much hope the audio community is able to identify who those people are who are behind you because they are equally as undesirable as you are.
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Krissy is the lady who was selling your goop, Flo?? I hear that you two had a falling out because she was selling to many tubes of your goop making you paranoid that people were going to steal from you so you yanked it from her. With all kinds of threats including a lawsuit that she was stealing your secret sauce. She’s an upright lady that would and has never screwed a client over did nor her late husband Timmy. You had your goop in one of the most trusted and loyal members here on Audiogon selling for you and you got …….. and wanted to sue her?
The Flo has a long trail of bad decisions. |
@glory I’m not trying to make you feel worse than you already do but don’t you now regret engaging with @nano-flo at all? And you did so with the knowledge of his previous pattern of behavior? I don’t believe I will ever understand where your head was when you knew Chris to be of questionable character and behavior.
This is a valuable lesson for us all: why do we assume that the snake won’t bite us when there is a clear record of the snake biting. ANYONE who does business with @nano-flo going forward ACCEPTS these risks and will get no sympathy. |
@glory understood. Another valuable lesson right?
You read a review on a product from a new entity (I use “entity” quite loosely with respect to @nano-flo ) and next time its highly likely you google for a second opinion? This thread where nano showed his true colors early on was here for the perusing prior to your unfortunate decision to purchase the silly power cable.
People will read 20 reviews when buying tires, ask friends, inquire and yet…a generic power cable with no background on the construction…just an application of Vaseline containing some suspended particles with no explanation? Mind boggling. |