Mitigating the Bubble


Today after many years of trials and tribulations I have mitigated a sonic aberration a horizontal phase anomaly in my center stage.  While the center image was always stable and outlined it seemed narrow and bubble like and I would need to shift my body angle to really lock in the image. This was obvious on many CDs and LPs .

I have many man made fixes that helped the situation but never a total cure. Some of these are now permanent fixtures on the ceiling in 2 different locations. I made my own acoustic panels filled with long hair sheep's wool and 3 Argent Room Lenses.  I have laminar flow lenses that focus and stabilize the image across the front stage. I have built and treated an acoustic fan that overcomes the  boundaries with in my room by reducing interference. I have loaded my speaker cabinets 3 times with new drivers and now an outboard crossover. This was after my Essence 30s speakers and my Dunlavy SC4s.  ..All my components are hard mounted and direct coupled to the floor...on rock solid racks and speaker stands, custom mono bloc amps each on their own stand. All of these devices and angles and positions made the image wider and more focused but I still had that little  bubble and shift before me. Always less annoying with each new device and tweak.

So, your probably saying to yourself hurry up and get to the end. The end finally arrived today after having applied a contact enhancer 7 days ago to just 6 RCA ends out of many connections in my system.  Today with a friend who has been here a hundred times sitting in the Chair playing the same music as usual he said there was a wider sweet spot. I despise that term but he said it and not me.What we both heard was a super stable center image that was a few feet wide and not just one. The bubble was gone. The head in the vise was gone.  Off came the straight jacket and helmet. What I have now in this space intime is a glorious fully extended soundstage with all the meat on the bones and the features of talking heads on a real live performance stage. 

I have probably used eight different contact enhancers over five decades but this one blows my mind. This product  Nano Flo is the ultimate in transparency. 

Tom 

 

theaudiotweak

Gary, I followed the sales platform rules throughout, 

Apparently not, since you refuse to honor your own return policy.

@nano-flo you may or may not ever sell another cable…people fall off of turnip trucks every day. Have you refunded Glory any of his money?

@ghasley 

do you want to hear the difference?

I can’t IM you, but contact me and I’ll send you my new offering for free. If you try it and don’t hear the difference you can continue to rip me apart and who am I to depute your review. You got a duel input amp, I’ll send you 2 nano treated adapters to use between the cord end and the wall. After 75 hours report what you want and I will not comment at all. If my tech is no good, then tell everybody.

Chris Arnold

The issue is not about the goop,Chris, it’s about your character and honoring your return policy which was unconditional with no requirements. It was returned as you sent it within the 30 days and shipped by the same carrier as you shipped to me, FedEx.

Do not stray from the pressing issue and that being integrity and upright character and honoring your return policy.

For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.

 

 

The issue is not about the goop,Chris, it’s about your character and honoring your return policy which was unconditional with no requirements. It was returned as you sent it within the 30 days and shipped by the same carrier as you shipped to me, FedEx.

“Yea Chris your goop is out of this world now refund Glory his $$$”

This issue is your ethics and integrity as a businessman. Lord you are thick @nano-flo  just give Glory his refund. 
 

Sorry @ghasley your call but I think you are more ethical than Nano.

@nano-flo 

 

Chris, very generous of you to offer to give me a cable for free but I really am not interested in trying it. I dont believe you are acting in a forthright manner in your dealings with @glory 

 

Just refund his money and move on, wiser for the experience.

@thespeakerdude LOL.

 

I’m not about to smear Vaseline with a fine abrasive suspended in it into my wall, my power conditioner and certainly not any of my gear. Others say they hear improvements, others think its utter BS. I dont care one way or the other but I despise unscrupulous actors. He may think Im going to go away or get tired. Zero chance and I think @jerryg123 is probably in the same camp.

@ghasley 

ok, I will again retract another free offer for you to test NanoFlo. It’s obvious audiophiles here are not interested it the truth, but are just on the prowl for viscous attacks against anyone with something new  

chris

@ghasley 

btw, it was only several $1 adapters loaded with unobtainium that is not available at any price

chris

See @ghasley , was obviously a phishing expedition. A rather transparent one.

Unavailable at any price as it does not exist. Not what was claimed.

Ray Charles could see through that fraudulent offer.

Keep digging that hole Chris. 

 

@nano-flo 

 

I am not in the audio undustry. I use reasonable cables, i just dont drink the coolaid.  Maybe I just cant hear the effects of power cords above a certain level or maybe the power supply in my $30k amp doesnt need the help, who knows.

 

You are so disconnected that you think this is about me not believing your super unobtanium doesnt work. This is about you being unethical to a long time Audiogon member. I’m not saying your product isnt effective. If you read back in my posts I’ve made fun of you and your product because you simply don’t know if your product does anything but you are taking a flyer trying to monetize it. You cant say what it does because you dont have a clue. It categorically cant enhance conductivity unless the contacts needed a little nano sanding.

 

If you have an ounce of character you would give @glory his rightful refund, until then, the barrage will continue. If we cost you just a few potential victims per week, that adds up.

@nano-flo 

 

Hit the note? I will pump the brakes when you refund @glory .

 

Until then, I will carve out time on a daily basis to keep your unethical behavior at the top of the most read threads on Audiogon. If I get tired, others will pick up the slack.

 

There won’t be anyone in the active audio community who won’t be aware of your unethical practices and you won’t sell alot of your shyte cables to the Epson printer crowd. Its your call, its your decision…and most of us are having fun bantering with and making fun of you and you seem to be the only one who doesn’t realize how bad you are coming off.

There is no data…still waiting for you to post.

 

Listen, its ok if you are having financial troubles. Its not ok to steal. By the way, how was your order flow today? Brisk?

Listen, its ok if you are having financial troubles. Its not ok to steal. By the way, how was your order flow today? Brisk

@ghasley FTI: Brusk is spelled with a “u”.

@thecarpathian

do you want the adapters or not?

Not. How can you fail to see this is not about the efficacy of your product, it’s about you showing a little integrity and honoring your own money back guarantee. Your sad attempt at bribery isn’t going to change that, and it isn’t going to change the fact that we will continue to point this out until you do the right thing. In it for the long haul and not costing us a dime. How much will it end up costing you?

@nano-flo I have zero interest in trying your products. You are a man of questionable ethics and integrity, my only interest is in you coming to your senses and refunding Glory his money.

I am repulsed that you would even make such a blatant attempt at bribing myself and @ghasley  with your product.

The only way to make us go away is by doing what’s is right. Issue the refund as outlined in you original terms of sale. 


 

@holmz LOL…brusk, brusque or brisk…

@thecarpathian well said. +1,000

 

@nano-flo rise and shine…this day carries with it the opportunity for you to reclaim your integrity. It isn’t difficult, you just have to decide you want to be better. It starts with keeping your word and refunding to @glory his money. I did a quick google and lo and behold, a record of your lack of follow through is emerging. There is still time for you to act but the window is closing.

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Guns, Watches, Engines and now PC goop, think the windows have closed in all channels.  

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Some at WBF are chiming in on this.

Stereo Times and the author are losing cred along with Chris.

 

 

Love this one about @nano-flo 

Having followed this circus ever since Chris' first post over a year ago (or two) on the other site, the conclusion I have drawn after reading the thread(s) and delving into the creator's outside website is that this is a Webster's dictionary example of snake oil salesmanship. Perhaps the most blatant example I have encountered in hifi.

It's total cowpie.

@nano-flo as you are discovering, the path you are choosing is MUCH more difficult to navigate than simply honoring your word. I know Ebay well enough that you will either end up refunding @glory or the user NANOLUBE will lose his ability to sell on that platform. Paypal same outcome. 

 

Why do you insist on blatantly doing something so unkind and unethical? Please don’t be offended that several here declined to accept your cables for free. In my case, it has nothing to do with whether I believe your products are pleasing to some. It is completely in the camp of until you show positive character and a moral compass I dont want anything to do with Chris Arnold, Enterprise Coatings or Nano-Flo.

 

You have it in your power to fix this mess and most of us will go back to our regularly scheduled programming. We all have better things to do.

@glory 

Any chance that @nano-flo refunded your money once he realized he had mistaken you for someone else?

 

It sure doesn't reflect well for the future of Nanoflo if they can't even afford to refund those who choose to return their cables within their 30-day money back guarantee period.

 

Anyone considering a purchase should do their due diligence to ensure if the risk is worth it.

Any chance that @nano-flo refunded your money once he realized he had mistaken you for someone else?

Nothing

I texted him concerning his error but no Apology and the false writing concerning me is still up on his ad on the eBay site.

Be sure to report the false accusation to Ebay, they can edit/filter his ad

@ghasley I really do not think @nano-flo has a shred of dignity or a conscience. 

Looking at his business history he has moved from one scam (oil additives) to another (gun oil and cable goop). 

With this in mind and that the amount that Chris has absconded with ($4000.00)? Glory should contact the AG in Illinois and file a complaint for Grand Theft and this could be Wire Fraud also.

How much money stolen is a felony in Illinois?

$500 in value, or theft of property exceeding $500 and not exceeding $10,000 in value, is a Class 3 felony. $500 in value, or theft of property exceeding $500 and not exceeding $10,000 in value, is a Class 2 felony if the theft was committed in a school or place of worship or if the theft was of governmental property.

@jerryg123

 

Glory’s best remedy is still through Ebay and Paypal and his credit card company.

 

Our best remedy as fellow audio enthusiasts is to ensure that Chris Arnold and Nano-Flo are radioactive when it comes to fleecing any more of our fellow audiophiles. I will hold out hope that Chris is working through something personal and will eventually do the right thing.

 

Regarding legal remedies, is it theft or is it fraud? I have three different law firms on auto dial but if they answer the telephone its an automatic $500 and the clock starts ticking by the quarter hour. I'm not that curious LOL.

I have copied pages 12, 13 & 14 of this thread. 
gary Anderson has lied repeatedly to to you and several members have joined in blind attacks against me, me invention, company, intellectual property, Mike G and stereo times. Slander, defamation of character, liable, disruption of business are serious issues, including spreading these slanderous rantings to other forums. 
gary paid $1500 a cable, not $7500 and he has lied repeatedly to gain the favor of a few of you. He refused a refund and wanted the cables and MORE. He’s also lying about contingent of selling his Hemingway to pay for these, however eBay has all that documentation. Cease and desist. 
Chris Arnold, Nano-Flo, NanoFlo. 

@nano-flo  Sorry you are not getting the benefit of the doubt.

No, I will not cease and desist. 

Did you read this rubbish you posted? 

Have you been drinking? 

​​​​​​​I had a stroke, and I am more coherent than you.

Be a man and give Glory his refund. 

I have copied pages 12, 13 & 14 of this thread. 
gary Anderson has lied repeatedly to to you and several members have joined in blind attacks against me, me invention, company, intellectual property, Mike G and stereo times. Slander, defamation of character, liable, disruption of business are serious issues, including spreading these slanderous rantings to other forums. 
gary paid $1500 a cable, not $7500 and he has lied repeatedly to gain the favor of a few of you. He refused a refund and wanted the cables and MORE. He’s also lying about contingent of selling his Hemingway to pay for these, however eBay has all that documentation. Cease and desist. 
Chris Arnold, Nano-Flo, NanoFlo. 

The word your looking for is libel, not liable.

And slander doesn’t apply as that pertains to the spoken word.

How can we defame your character?

You don’t have any...

And which Gary are you talking about since you have two of them confused with each other. Did you straighten that one out yet and take down your libelous statement about our Gary?

I have also copied us audio mart and whatsthebestforum slander as well, please ignore the cease and desist 

CA

 

 

 

And yet again; It’s libel, not slander. You’re not a very quick study, are you.

I have also copied us audio mart and "whatsthebestforum

Whatsthebestforum?? Is that new?

As my lawyer would say, "Discovery is going to be a bitch. For them."

Good luck proving you have a real room temperature superconductor. When you cannot prove you do, and that you have insufficient data to even claim that, you would be clearly into misrepresentation. I will let the lawyers decide whether it was fraudulent. Given that the whole value of the cable could assumed to be in the alleged superconductor treatment, if it does not have that property, then the value goes to near 0, the purchaser is damaged and the misrepresentation is fraudulent.

It matters not what Gary or Glory or anyone said or did, as you have a money back guarantee as per the original Ebay listing. Claiming that he scraped the goop off? Good luck claiming that he did that or that it would even be possible to insert into an outlet without that happening naturally. Of course, Nano-Flo did not correct another post on here (by another user) where the statement was made that the treatment is permanent. Given Nano-Flo's high involvement in this thread, one could conclude that was tacit acceptance of this statement as fact.

Who is this MikeG who appears to have made new accounts on numerous audio forums just to promote this product?  That is strange behavior. I wonder if it fully legal.

@thecarpathian  Nice

 

The word your looking for is libel, not liable.

And slander doesn't apply as that pertains to the spoken word.

How can we defame your character?

You don't have any...

   

@thespeakerdude Ol Chris maybe in for it himself and brought up on fraud, false advertising etc.

We all have to keep in mind that Mr @nano-flo has had run ins with members here at Agon and hung @just_krissy ​​​​@millercarbon out to dry on a business dealing with his cable goop. 

His record speaks for itself. 

Good luck proving you have a real room temperature superconductor. When you cannot prove you do, and that you have insufficient data to even claim that, you would be clearly into misrepresentation. I will let the lawyers decide whether it was fraudulent. Given that the whole value of the cable could assumed to be in the alleged superconductor treatment, if it does not have that property, then the value goes to near 0, the purchaser is damaged and the misrepresentation is fraudulent.

It matters not what Gary or Glory or anyone said or did, as you have a money back guarantee as per the original Ebay listing. Claiming that he scraped the goop off? Good luck claiming that he did that or that it would even be possible to insert into an outlet without that happening naturally. Of course, Nano-Flo did not correct another post on here (by another user) where the statement was made that the treatment is permanent. Given Nano-Flo's high involvement in this thread, one could conclude that was tacit acceptance of this statement as fact.

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