McIntosh -- good for show, not for sound, says dealer

Mac is damn fine gear! if you think its over rated, or not good, your ears are messed up.

  Will i ever be able to buy Mac,....prob not, but t here is a ocean of amazing amps, preamps out there, just as good if not better (some)

  Mac has the sound and looks for another 75 years............

if they do it properly!~

if you think its over rated, or not good, your ears are messed up.

that‘s one hell of a conclusion based on absolutism and leaves no room for the validity of alternative viewpoints. The world is currently in a hell of a mess due to exactly the same philosophy..

A few years ago, I bought a pre and an amp all original from the 70's, benched tested perfectly. It's my daily driver and sounds amazing to me. 

@bugsnest - top notch! 

I have the C53 and had the MC462 meaning, swapped out the 462 with a Luxman M10X and waiting on the C900u to replace the C53. I liked the way the Mcintosh sounds but love the way Luxman sounds.. Also have the MA352, that I will not give up.. Love that one.. So it’s a mixed experience for me..

@rman9 May I ask what speakers and speaker cables did you use with the MC462 and did you keep them when you swapped in the M10X? 

@jmeyers I am running Magico A3 pair with Kimber Kable 12TC. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t have anything negative with the MC462, I had it for less than six months since I bought it. The dealer was kind enough to bring their demo model of the M10X and let me have it for a weekend. I don’t exactly know if it is because the M10X operating in Class A up to 12W before it switches to AB, it is just so clear and beautiful dynamics from lows to highs at lower volumes. Even at low volumes, you hear the punch of the bass and the hush silence. At higher volumes, the MC462 is very comparable.. But I tend to listen at lower level.. Also I prefer the Meters color of the Luxman over the Mcintosh big blue meters.. The dealer was able to get me a M10X within days of ordering it.. On the other hand I have to wait till June to get the C900U. Between the C900U and the C53, there is no comparison.. I had a demo model from the dealer again at home on that. The C53 simply does not posses the same dynamics as the C900U. I have paid for the C900U and anxiously waiting.. Luxman has been putting several of their models end of life.. I love the C900U a little too much and hence the anxiety

Good Lord!! I started to watch the video, couldn't get past the first two minutes.. What a waste of life and space.. I love my MA352, and it's not because I need to impress my friends.. 

@rman9 You did the right thing by switching off. Notice on the threads (here and on his own youtube channel) how he calls people who disagree with him a "shill"? Conspiratorial, name-calling, angry, mean guy. Whatever he knows about audio, he behaves execrably online and there are way too many better places and people to spend money on audio. I would never recommend anyone buy anything from this guy.

@hilde45  Quite disgusting!! surprised anyone follows him.. 

He reminds me of the guy who said Sandy Hook was a hoax. He has all the appeal of ear wax, yet there are people who love him. Why, I do not know.

I think some people on here need to take a deep breath and a step back.

A sales guy on YT says he does not like some brands of HiFi equipment and calls them MidFi.

That triggers what I assume to be grown men to loose their effing minds!

Don't get me wrong, I love you all, you take time to help others and exchange ideas! There's a goldmine of worthy advise in these digital pages that you made happen! 😍

But, why the hell do care about the opinion of one person on YT? 

I mean, come on, @stereo5 you're trying to associate a person who you disagree with as being some right-wing nutjob. Why not go the whole hog and accuse the guy of being a racist, holocaust denier who possibly eats babies?

I don't agree with what he says but also I don't agree with these totally out of proportion responses either.

If you ever want a 101 on how the Salem Witch Trials got going, here's your perfect example.

The vast majority of us are here because we love music and are willing to invest what 99% of the population would consider stupid amounts of money in making it sound better.

Let's concentrate on what's really important to us, getting those goose bumps, rising the hairs on our necks, the shivers, the stupid grins as we delight in what we hear. And even the soul jerking pain as we listen to a song that reminds us of those no longer with us.

Love,

Dagda  

@dagda,

He certainly sounds like a right wing nut job to me and that is why I made the statement. I tried to be a little nicer about saying it so my post wouldn’t get deleted again. 

Plus for daga

I'm surprised people didn't get this upset when a member on this forum said pass labs amps were midfi.

Does anyone really think that McIntosh gives even one tiny flea fart about Mr. Mikey?   :)

@dagda

That triggers what I assume to be grown men to loose their effing minds!

Bro, this forum is sometimes like dudes at a bar with a few beers in them.

Thinking about that as a possible context might help talk you off the ledge.

@hilde45 I may be guilty of drinking will perusing this forum🤓

@overthemoon It's safe for me to say that "this forum causes drinking."

And I’m thankful 

Some folks make a living providing honest information, and some make a living by misinformation.. I have a bin called garbage and the latter half goes straight into that. Youtube provides an avenue to get some exposure to products good or bad. But I'll never plop huge dollars without consulting with my ears.. Thank goodness I have two of them. 

@rman9 Hear Hear

MacIntosh equipment is extremely well built high end equipment with a very specific sound. It is very much worth the money. I personally do not like the sound… I can appreciate it for what it is. Their built quality is top notch, resale value is outstanding as is there reliability. I have a dealer friend who has been in the business for thirty years and frequently sees thirty year old equipment in perfect working condition. There is a carefully crafted house sound to them. Buy Mac and you know what you are getting. 

Macintosh - computers, phones etc.

McIntosh - amplifiers etc.

keep em on the straight n narrow @roxy54 !!!!  🤣