Let me explain something to you jive turkeys.


All too often when I read YouTube comments on old music, a youngster will say some variation on "I love this music and it's from before I was born" or "This is my favourite band and I'm only 15 or whatever". That's great. Then, some jive turkey comes and says something like "Nobody cares about your age, snowflake.", "You think you're so special?" or "You must be proud of yourself."

Look here, bringing up one's age is not so much about the listener as it is a comment on the music. It's a compliment, not a brag. The listener is not trying to say that they are special, they are saying that the music is not merely nostalgia for old people, not a flash-in-the-pan fad, but is genuinely good music that has stood the test of time, still worth listening to. Dig?

tambey64

doug10457

You said: "To provide some perspective: A young person in 2022 saying they enjoy listening to The Doors’ “Light My Fire” (1967) is equivalent to a young person in 1967 saying they enjoy listening to Al Jolson’s “You Great Big Beautiful Doll (1911). Around 55 years between each."

You are technically correct about the years difference between the songs you have used in your example but don't really take into consideration the explosion of different genres that took place in the 60s and 70s that would give a young person of today many more options to find something they like. Popular music of 1911 was either Ragtime or somehow related to Ragtime, Classical, with Jazz and The Blues just getting started. From its start in the 50s, Rock and Roll exploded in the 60s, while Pop, Jazz, R&B, Folk, and Classical continued strong and sub-genres of rock like Metal, Acid, and Progressive were all getting started too. There was just way more diversity in the 60s and 70s making it much easier for anybody of any age to find something they like. If someone doesn't care for Ragtime, it would be difficult to find them liking much of anything that came out in 1911. So while you're correct on the time differences, it goes a little deeper than just saying they're equivalent.

Woooo!!!

Flash backkkkk.

 I shouldn’t of taken all that stuff at once!

 

Consider this - nobody thinks of the New York Philharmonic as a cover band. And nobody has out-Bached, Beethovened, or Mozarted those guys in over 200 years of trying. And we're still listening in amazement to what they created in a pretty short period from 1725-1825. What happened between 1950 and 1980 in popular music is no different, no less worthy, and the best will survive centuries because it is likewise that appealing. 

@panzrwagn 

You beat me in referring those old guys.

Also, don't forget the lasting jazz, blues and swing/big band from the 1920s-1960s.

Peace.

Good music is good music, age aside, but I particularly enjoy good music that I can tether to some specific point and time in my life. It just resonates more with the emotional side of music for me. Like reading a book as soon as it's published, and the author signed your copy as you talked about how you interpret it. So I always seek out new music, in addition to enjoying older music that thus far has been the soundtrack of my life.

My wife loves "oldies" (song's her parents grew up listening to)... I don't really connect as much with those songs. I absolutely can appreciate the emotional nostalgia of that music to her, but to me, I don't connect as much intellectually with songs/artists that came and went before my early teenage years.

I don't judge people's musical tastes in reference to their age, but I do enjoy music more in reference to my age.

...I've wanted a can of aerosol LSD, long ago.....

In my mc 'biking years', I'd longed to pull next to the driver that either wanted to drive as if asleep, or 'block' my attempt to pass and give him a blast....

"You may as well drive on acid, anyway..."  (rpm to 9K)

....do wait for the Stoned Ranger....;)

Or, more 'current' (*ha*), Star Trip, #2 @ the link....

what are exactly    QUOTE   ”jive turkeys” ?  
 

spoiler alert:  the holiday’s are over!

Reminds me of the words from a well known tune...." ji ji ji..jive talkin"

Yeah I remember when I was a kid and listening to doo woop.Then the Beatles and when I asked my grandfather what he listen to it was Al Jolson. But it's true Classical music even then was over 100 years old.

Watchoo talkin' bout Willis?  You callin' me a Jive Turkey?  I still use the word groovy every day.  Man, it's a habit that I can' grow out of.  Don't want to.  

Nice coltrane1, that poster is on my music room wall now. Just to the left of my wall mounted lp12.

@coltrane1 

About that famous Maxell add.

A little trivia question. What speaker brand and model was in that ad?

I haven't been called a jive turkey since Nixon was in office. It brings back good memories, believe it or not.