Stylus made from shungite? Obviously not possible, or even very funny...
l want to build a solid wood turntable
Sam here and I haven't owned a turntable in 25 years, however if I build a turntable out of solid aged wood like a nice musical instrument with the tone arm connected to the center spool made of solid wood to get the vibrations and the stylus made from shungite would I get super vinyl sound more analog like? This will be my new project.
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Sam here and if a cactus needle can be used as a stylus needle i can dam well use shungite for at least the tone arm + if i water log the african mahogany i'm making the platter out of by submerging the wood in distilled shungite water for 3 days the wood pore's will open up and be energized by the shungite water then dried out with a heat lamp and the wood will be dry and hard like a piece of 100 year old wood with great tone. |
I've seen a few handmade tone arms. Wood seems to be a favorite. Oak Apatong, Cherry, Black walnut, birds eye maple, all kinds of plastic, type products too. I saw one guy use Glass, sample draw tubes (open at both ends) 18-24" long about 1/2" OD. He used a propane torch to do his shaping, and welding. Some type of glue for the metal hinge points that were attached. Sure looked cool. No idea how it sounded or worked... WOOD, is a good material for a platter, tonearms, bearing or bushing housings (like platters axle or spindles). Plinths and or cabinet style enclosures, EX; Roll top, fliptop, vertical pocket style doors (like a roll top only vertical, Doors bi or single. If you think soaking wood in whatever you're gonna soak it in is gonna change something, you might want to rethink that one. You still have to finish the pieces out (sand and fit). Then, protect or cover them with at least OIL, or a clear coat of something. How much of what you soaked it in is still gonna be there? JUST ASKIN', after you get all the parts nice flat, smooth and covered with polished urethane, THEN add a mat of some kind.... You see my point? It's not "rocket science", but it's not everyone's cup of tea either. No simple task, to say the least.. Regards |
Once fully soaked/saturated the wood would require a minimum of 2 years (per 1" thickness) to air dry and become stable. Perhaps less time if the larger surface area of the wood (cut considerably oversized to be cut/milled later on) is end grain, I would guess. Faster/higher temperature curing can be/generally is problematic unless precisely/knowledgeably controlled. If you are considering soaking/deeply saturating a "log" then plan on a decade, or more, of proper drying/curing. Just something to think about. How about something faster/easier to work with (like depleted uranium waste solids and/or plastic masses retrieved/cleaned from our oceans)? DeKay |
"Sam here and if i use a kiln or sun lamp would i be able to dry the wood faster?"... I posted... "Faster/higher temperature curing can be/generally is problematic unless precisely/knowledgeably controlled." Further research on your part is required Sam. Not into "wood" myself, but grew up with a neighbor who cut/dried hardwood and other trees to make furniture/paneling et cetera and it's a highly skilled process, for furniture and especially for a TT platter. My father built a house in 1955/1956 with mahogany siding and it required a pre-drilled hole for every nail. When he added a garage 5-6 years later -w- the same siding my job (I was 5-6 years old) was to drill the holes using a jig and a drill press. Old growth mahogany is weird wood, similar to drilling thicker cold rolled steel which I later (years later) became familiar with. Made a super duper hash pipe out of it though, when I was 16, which worked extremely well with digging into an egg/hash breakfast. DeKay |
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"Sam here again and roxy 54 just can't except my forward ideas.the audio industry: lf it ain't broke guitar sam: i want tone i gotta step outside the box." Really Sam? Please tell me how you have the capability to make a cantilever out of shungite, or a tonearm out of quartz? Oh, and a cartridge with a quartz pyramid. Please admit that it's all a silly spoof and stop wasting everyone's time. And what's all of this "tone" nonsense? Getting things to sound right is accomplished through solid engineering and research, not the nonsense you're talking about. |
aewarren you are correct i will incorperate shungite in another way.The key is to age the wood for use in the platter and tone arm.The platter must be very thin maybe 1/4 to 1/8’’ thickness waterloged with the distilled shungite water and then dried under a sun lamp to make it very dry so it vibrates the natural wood tone. The center spool will also be a wood spindal.l’m also thinking neodynium magnets and quartz crystal can be encorperated in some way as when i place quartz crystal on the lamp plug it really improves the tone of audio. |
Sam here and i don't use drugs how do you think i'm so awake. lf i can turn vinyl into super vinyl with my collection of vintage frequencies all the better.l'm aware that the big audio manufacturers will try to keep my ideas quite however once the public hears the results there monopoly will be over.The future of sound is on my shoulders and i will not let my people down. |
guitarsam, here is a trick that really brings out the magic in music since you mentioned using
neodynium magnets. This works best with cartridges costing at lease a thousand dollars or more and you will need to rebalance your tonearm and possibly add more counter weight. Take two large neodynium magnets and glue them to the body of your cartridge. This along with your shungite infused wood should put your turntable over the top. Let me know how much you like it, I rarely ever share this secret but you seem to be really on something, errr, I mean onto something. BillWojo |
jperry took the words out of my mouth. guitarsam, you are just another kenjit-in-training, starting nonsense threads to get attention, and the things that you say don't even have the value of being funny. A year ago, I vowed to never respond to any of kenjit's posts, and I hereby do the same regarding yours. By the way, you should take a course in remedial spelling. |
OK....I'll ignore all the shungite and etc., and approach this in a somewhat serious fashion....if $ is Not an object.... Waterjet a granite slab for the base. I once approached the process with a 1" clear acrylic slab, but wasn't able to follow through with the project. I was going to approach it with a direct-drive motor; in retrospect, a belt drive would allow for isolation, but an untoothed belt would allow for precision provided one could ensure near zero slip. I'm a tangetal arm fan; 'nuff said. Cart? As said, $ no object. Whatever one feels will make one happy... As for support, pour a concrete column and place the above on it with sorbothane isolation pads under everything. At the end of it all....if it doesn't make you happy.... Find another pursuit. |
Sam here and i don't plan on buying a commercial cartridge that will ruin the sound.l have to build it thinking out side the box now that l have trained my brain to connect with my subconcious i will let it do all the work because it has no restrictions + adding my vintage frequencies will put me over the top. |
Oh, I forgot about the platter.....*tsk* A machined lead alloy. An alloy, to allow for strength but applying the mass of lead for stability.... All of this ought to be in a temp stabilized, dust free, near zero humidity cabinet that's allowed to come up to speed. Remote cueing, of course. An additional side cabinet to allow the lp to adjust to the 'play' space would be a +....but that goes without saying..... |
Sam here and i'm not trying to be funny and i have no idea who kenjit is however did he use vintage frequencies to make digital audio sound like vintage analog vinyl like i did and proved it on this site with the people who really took that post serious and tested my discovery were blown away and i will reup for anyone who wants to run there own test.You can kill the messenger however the results remain the same. |
If you look on Google you can find a Plinth, Platter and Tonearm produced from Manufactured Bamboo Board. I have recently seen reports on a Type of Manufactured Bamboo Board where the early Materials Properties Measurements are showing it to have attractive properties like Panzerholz, but not a like for like match. If I recall the term used as part of the Manufacture that refers to Side Pressing relates to the product. The Bamboo Board seems to be a much more widespread product and is more affordable than Panzerholz if bought from a retailer. There is a Cartridge using a very hard part of a Madake Bamboo Plant for the Cantilever. I do not know if it is solely Madake or a Composite with a Metal Connected at the Bobbin End. |
Here is a Link to a Website I have spent many hours on, there are inspiring projects to be seen. The Ikea Build will be the one I was referring as a Bamboo Build. There are also a selection of DIY Built Tonearms where wood is inclusive of used materials. http://www.schiller-phono.de/de/ready-made |
+1 twoleftears If you ever took wilderness survival training you'll know why not to use wood for the spindle and bearing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbyd0LuVoZw |
I once had big plans on building my own tt using purpleheart. As my first project, I fashioned a motor enclosure out of 3" purpleheart. It had been in my home for a couple years acclimating to it's environment. One day, while listening, I kept hearing distortion. Yep, the enclosure had cracked. For this reason, I abandoned my use of only wood in a tt project. |
Good reading here. https://www.lencoheaven.net/forum/index.php?topic=22593.60 The photos get a bit more exciting around page 6. |
twoleftears, Thanks for the link, that was fascinating. I must say though that the turntable in the finish was really ugly. The top looked like an old parquet floor that needed replacing, and that veneer he put on the side just looked terrible and had no visual relation to the top. Shame after so much work. He should have had the whole thing professionally veneered for all of the great work that he did. |
guitarsam, kenjit, and b4icu walk into a bar and............................
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. That's nothing, I was the bartender, O2 only when I bartend. Deep breaths, fella!... Never understood a word they said, WAY to hi tec for me.. Just sayin' DEEP BREATHS..... Let me go polish a rock or two.... Even my pets need attention. low cost, low maintenance... Pet Rocks.... They love the classics, and calm right down after listen... I go introducing, other "rocks" in the mix, I'm sure it would turn out to be a brawl... Not just every rock gets along with every other kind of rock... Kinda like the little fighting fish, just can't get along... Regards |