Keep noise creators outside your clean power zone

90$ from Amazon if you can wait a day or so longer.. ;)  I'll wait to snag one, my current locale would make applying it an issue (long story...)

(Eric’s fans help him keep his cool....*G*)

Back atcha’...👍

I am nothing without my fans.

Peace,

Erik

Quote from Miller Carbon, ‘Got a PM just now, so good I have to share it in its entirety:

Miller, nice system BTW. Stop the posting on this Erik Squires dude. He is a joke and it seems he just keeps posting threads about nothing. Don’t waste your time anymore. I have stopped myself from posting on his threads. He knows absolutely nothing. AND he has people who follow him, one guy I met. You cannot win this battle. To many nobodies who know nothing about audio systems support the guy.

Anyway all the best to you.

Factual, tight, well-reasoned, compelling.

Bye!’

Dude, that is below the belt. FWIW.. i admire your devotion and you are super knowledgable no doubt. Much respect. But in the famous words of Rodnay ‘Can’t we all just get along?’

Did the author of that “PM” happen to go by one or all of the following names: John Miller, John Baron or David  Dennison?

Miller
That is low even for you....

Maybe I should post all the PM,s I have about YOU...….

But that would be stooping to your level and that I draw the line at.

Take care now.

Got a PM just now, so good I have to share it in its entirety:

Miller, nice system BTW. Stop the posting on this Erik Squires dude. He is a joke and it seems he just keeps posting threads about nothing. Don’t waste your time anymore. I have stopped myself from posting on his threads. He knows absolutely nothing. AND he has people who follow him, one guy I met. You cannot win this battle. To many nobodies who know nothing about audio systems support the guy.

Anyway all the best to you.

Factual, tight, well-reasoned, compelling.

Bye!

Great OP Erik.
Thank you.

A while ago I did indeed move all of my lesser powered goodies like internet switch, Wal warts for head amp etc to a simple powerstrip that is plugged into a regular duplex that is seperate from the main audio feed line.

Works for me.
Is there room for improvement?
I am sure there is and sometimes you just don't know what noise you actually had until you remove it!

Always someone will say they don't have a noise problem, I never thought I did.
Until I worked on it.

‘Miller’ time is so annoying...

How do you keep your wife out of the house? Actually I must lead a bless life. I don't have any noise problems. Quiet as a mouse. 

Good advice @erik_squires 

For this audio-dilletante, your setup makes sense. 

Thank you for sharing it. 

I agree to a certain extent....for instance moving my router 10 feet away from my rack made a huge difference.  The problem is you can't keep your audio components outside of your "clean" zone.  So much of the noise that is generated is coming straight from your gear itself.....toroidal transformers etc...  Isolation helps and rack placement can be very important in some instances...for me it was lengthy trial and error to find a quiet spot for my SUT.  

Good one Erik👍

@erik_squires ,
+1
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And finally, no wall warts after the conditioner? Have you looked at my system? Have you looked at ANY SYSTEM?! We're gonna get real basic now. Because what is a wall wart, anyway? Did you ever stop to ask yourself that question? A wall wart is nothing but a very simple power supply. Its a transformer, couple diodes, maybe a cap or two. That’s it.

Oh Miller, how your legs must cramp after your knee jerks that hard. I'd reply to this with facts and information, but like a petulant child, you wait for me to post something, say something negative and then run away.

You are the best proof of my importance int his forum, and I am so grateful.

Best,

E

If you can, avoid using wall warts, and network devices like Wifi routers, switches, video streamers etc. on the clean side of your conditioner because they will contaminate the already filtered power.

Yeah, no, it doesn’t work like that. Not even close.

First, because there is no "zone". Look at my system for example. https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367 Where is the "clean power zone"? Can you show me? Is it after the power conditioner? Or is it after the step down transformer? Maybe its after the breaker panel? No? Maybe its the electric meter? Because I have tracked the thing back to the point of using tweaks on the meter box and it works just as well there as everywhere else along the entire power path from that point on. Which is to say all of it. So where exactly is this imaginary zone then?

Second way its nothing like you say, I can disconnect or turn off breakers going to other rooms and hear an improvement. I can put contact enhancers and outlet plugs on stuff in another room clear across the house and still hear the same improvement as when they are used right in the room or even on unused outlets right on my conditioner. So that ones bunk too.

And finally, no wall warts after the conditioner? Have you looked at my system? Have you looked at ANY SYSTEM?! We're gonna get real basic now. Because what is a wall wart, anyway? Did you ever stop to ask yourself that question? A wall wart is nothing but a very simple power supply. Its a transformer, couple diodes, maybe a cap or two. That’s it.

Now please do not take my word for it. Open one up and have a look for yourself. Then do the same with ANY component in your system. Because if you look at ANY COMPONENT in ANY SYSTEM you will find EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM has a transformer, diodes, and caps.

Still, in fairness, don’t only knock, also be positive. Point out the stuff the guy got right. DMZ is indeed short for de-militarized zone. Well done.