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I want to buy new speakers for 50,000 and see it used for 30,000, what should I do?
two issues here, would it be smarter to buy the used speakers not knowing where they’ve been or how hard they’ve been played or maybe there’s something wrong with them. And the other issue is what happens to the value of my speakers immediately after the box comes to my house. And I guess the third issue is, amI insane for buying $50,000 speakers.
It seems like I’ll be losing $20,000 immediately and of course probably a little more since if I ever sell they will need to be reduced further so used price can be 30,000 if a dealer is involved which they probably will be.
This raises a serious concern that very nice speakers are just too expensive.
Fortunately (and luckily) I’m not married so that makes this process a lot easier
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So now at least we know what your current speakers are. Now all we need is what 50k speakers you are considering? Please do tell. |
I’ve traveled this exact road. I’m in the Northwest, listened to a pair in Florida and purchased my speakers from a dealer in Norway. (They took in on trade). No fear. Why? Most audiophiles, if not all, take really good care of their gear. Gear depreciates. I like saving money. But most importantly when I’m listening to music i’m not thinking of who owned my stuff before me. Im enjoying the music or the ride that high end quality can provide. Do your due diligence and have no fear.
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@tannoy56 wrote:
And yet previously you wrote:
My earlier reply to you still stands.
It's what most are to each other around here, more or less strangers, so that's just the terms under which we mingle. Nonetheless we should be able to gain from the experience and opinions of others. |
Understood. And that is usually the premise we all operate under. But I think the OP is being disingenuous by starting a controversial thread only for the sake of making some arbitrary point and not to seek actual advice.
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FFS @ozzy62 you've made that point 10x so far. We get it. |
@emergingsoul , we now have 4 pages of comments, along with repeated requests for you to both identify your existing system and what "$50K speakers" you are contemplating. Identifying these hypothetical speakers is not so that someone else can snatch them from your grip but in order to give you the requested advice regarding whether it makes sense to buy them used or new, and whether they are "worth it." By knowing the rest of your system and room size, it is easier to give you valid advice (if that is what you really want). However, other than some sleuthing from another thread by another member to try to figure out what you have for a system, you have consistently ignored everyone's question, Why is that? Why keep participating in this thread when you intentionally refuse to disclose such basic information? Because of this, I have to conclude that you are just trolling and there are no "$50K speakers" at all. Come on . . . if you are going to fabricate a thread for general opinions, at least fabricate these mysterious speakers of which you speak. |
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Speakers I’m looking at include the Sonos faber el cremonese, or amati g5, in 23 x 15 room, 8 foot ceiling. 80% home theater 20% 2 channel. It would be replacing a B&w 802 d3 powered by McIntosh mc901 monos. It’s a difficult decision. I like the curious design for additional woofers in the il cremonese, ie, built-in subwoofers. The crossovers for these lower speakers is 80 which is interesting as not much is going on at that lower level. But that could be taking a lot of stress off the other drivers so maybe that’s a good thing. How much of a sonic change do you think might happen if I replace speakers? |
As Deep_333 said, the type of people that buy $50,000 speakers are not going to flog them. Their musical tastes likely run toward classical or jazz, neither of which are terribly hard on speakers unless deliberately pushed to the point of clipping. I’ve purchased used speakers since the early 2000s, and never had any issues. Ditto for speaker cables, interconnects and power cords, which I always buy used because they’re much less expensive AND already broken in. (I like MITs, which take 300+ hours to break in). What’s my point? Instead of buying a new pair of $50,000 speakers, look for a used pair of $75,000 speakers (the ones you REALLY want) for $50,000. You may also be able to find a dealer that has some taken some back as a trade-in towards a higher model that will throw in a full factory warranty to sweeten the deal. |
The OP’s B&W vs Sonus faber are very different sounding speakers. Although I demoed several B&W 800s speakers, didn’t resonate with me and seemed bright. Sonus faber is much more musical which translates to engaging. Although we all have our personal preferences in speaker sonics, hard to imagine the OP not liking the Sonus faber |
Bump, how did I miss this thread? My dilemma with the used +$50k speakers is how they'll sound in my room, with my components? My current speakers do nicely wity my $25k Mac front end, but what if those new speakers actually need the CH precision, Solution, Chord or gasp MSB components with $7-10k acc's to really get there? I saved $25k on the speakers, but now have to shell out another $50-75k in used components and treatments. Every B&M dealer I've worked with has extended the offer to let me bring my gear in to hear and a couple dealers have even let me home demo speakers if they have demos on the floor. Once I start whittling away at the dealers price I'm trading their service in for a better bottom line and I don't have the experience they do with their products. Sometimes I think, if I could hire my dealer to set up my current system he could probably make it sound better than anything I bought at any price and set up myself. |
There are a lot of really great speakers out there that are almost new for a significant discount. Dealer demos (ask them not to put “demo” on the receipt for future warranty, trade ins or open box. My last set was 15k and were as brand new for 10k.
it allows me to build a better system cor less and when i sell or trade the loss is much more palatable. |
If there is no reason to believe the used speakers are in less than excellent cosmetic and operating condition, and you can know their provenance (i.e., not stolen or bought from a flood salvage liquidator,) buying the speakers at $30K reduces your loss on resale if you don't want to keep them. Speakers last a long time if well cared-for (and not stuck in a storage or a musty basement somewhere.) At $30K, I would insist on being able to travel to see them and hear them and if you buy them, being able to specify how they will be transported to you. Anything short of that would be a hard pass. |
