I'm here for the enthusiasts, not the snobbery


Couple of threads have shown up lately. "Should you be an audiophile if you..." either have a certain type of gear, have a certain amount of money, or don’t make your own.

I personally reject all of that. I’m here for the enthusiasts, and those who suffer. That is, people who are enthusiastic about listening to music via electronics and those who are suffering with problems who need a little help. That’s how I try to build a community.

Also want to point out, again, that this hobby was built by hobbyists and tinkerers. The range included backyard self-electrocuting iconoclasts to scientists in acoustics and electrical engineering. I’m happy to welcome them all.

Laslty, I want to say something about the Porsche metaphor:

1 - All Porsches are ugly. This is an indisputable fact no one wants to talk about and means all debate needs to stop right there.

2 - Any motorcycle is more fun and exciting than any car.


Thank you for reading this and I’m glad I had a chance to nip these conversations in the bud. << evil troll laugh >>
erik_squires
How about a '71 Mustang in 1980 for $900? Worst repaint I ever saw. Earl Scheib job. You could see the mustard colored paint in the trunk edges (and door jambs) not covered by the instantly fading, peeling red paint. After that, I never had the urge to buy one because of nostalgia. Worst handling car, couldn't go 5 feet in snow and was terrible in the rain, but pretty fast in a straight line. Transmission went after a couple years and was sold as a junker within a few years.
Dude, my crazy uncle painted an MG with a brush and latex paint. 

Lets talk about bad repaint.
"Lets talk about bad repaint."
What now? Am I supposed to post a picture of the first speaker I have ever made?

At least these equipment racks are decent from the distance, as long as lights are off. Who would have guessed that spray paint from the can drips and makes bubbles?
Uncle repaint doesn’t count. I’m talking about a company (thankfully out of business) who did it day in and day out. I think the charged like $2-300 back then. And it wasn’t worth it to the previous owner.
Our Ferry
who art in Zuffenhausen
hallowed be thy horsepower
and deliver us not
into Tempos
for they are boring....

I am sure there is more, these are the bits I have on the flesh and blood RAM

@rocray....awhile back, the spouse tired of the Yamaha scooter she commuted to CSUSF, to/fro the bookstore/coffee hangout....
"Shitty brakes, randumb numb handling, no Power...."

So she inherited my RD350...helmet and leathers to match the marroon tank....and that took care of those complaints....;)

"You let your wife ride an RD?!" astonished co-worker 'sclaimed....

Sure...she's not subject to the homone-driven idiocy us guyz are prone to, she's about the right size and weight to enjoy it....and now she's capable of getting away from the brain-dead in an Impala.

Me?  Moved on to a 550 Vision shafter with the fairing.
Great commute bike, once I put air horns on it...:)
Couple of threads have shown up lately. "Should you be an
audiophile if you..." either have a certain type of gear, have a certain amount of money, or don’t make your own.

I personally reject all of that. I’m here for the enthusiasts, and those who suffer. That is, people who are enthusiastic about listening to music via electronics and those who are suffering with problems who need a little help. That’s how I try to build a community.

Also want to point out, again, that this hobby was built by hobbyists and tinkerers. The range included backyard self-electrocuting iconoclasts to scientists in acoustics and electrical engineering.
I’m happy to welcome them all.

             Me Too


All motorcycles are more fun than any cars?  Seriously?  I races sport bikes, but driving a Ferrari FXX anything beats the hell out of any bike you ever rode, and that Ferrari is practically a dinosaur.  What is true is that any bike you can buy is much more exciting than a car that costs the same.
Does that make you a racist? 😲  (It looks like I’m on another roll, I haven’t even had breakfast yet.)
@sokogears
How about a '71 Mustang in 1980 for $900? Worst repaint I ever saw. Earl Scheib job.
When I was a kid growing up in Huntington Bch, CA my dad had his green and white 1955 Chevy station wagon painted all white by Earl Scheib.  When getting it wet to wash with ordinary garden house and nozzle it looked like it was getting dirtier.  From just the weak spray of the hose the Earl Scheib paint was just peeling off the car. 




Hilarious. I guess the $300 paint job was the deluxe package if he was painting cars for $50.

I had paint come off when a car was hand washed. It was a large touch up. Paint was cracked.


Aligned with you perceptually, just not on your final metaphors.  Firstly, what does your second statement "Any motorcycle is more fun and exciting than any car." have to do with "All Porsches are ugly. This is an indisputable fact no one wants to talk about and means all debate needs to stop right there?"

I suspect you need optometric care if in summation you think appreciation of minimalism is devoid of beauty.

Yeah, there are some less than striking Porsche, but for the most part their signature cars stand apart for gratuitous appreciation for form and motion.

Cheers mate.
Firstly, what does your second statement "Any motorcycle is more fun and exciting than any car." have to do with "All Porsches are ugly.


Trolls do not have to explain themselves.
I wonder how many working musicians cannot actually read or write music? Are they really musicians? Of course they are--they're just limited or "challenged." Maybe not very successful.
Contrary to some of the "music first" arguments often seen here, I would like to admit that I willingly listen to equipment along with the music and therefore consider myself an audiophile. We even listen to our rooms, for Pete's sake. Lucky Pete.
I agree with "eric_Squires", I think that he said it best. My regards to all who wish to be involved with Audio, the equipment, the science and engineering, and most of all the music.
I’ve always thought the early year Porsche Cayman had beautiful lines and years later purchased an ‘06. This was its first year of production, which is typically a no no, but after reading Road and Tracks review which commended Porsche getting the bugs worked out first (probably on their Boxster model) and the 06 Cayman being rated dependable with low rate of unplanned maintenance, i pulled the trigger and bought one over the internet. Ive enjoyed the car tremendously as my daily driver for over 3 years now with no repair issues. That brings to mind a question; has anyone experienced regret buying a new audio product from its first year of production?  I suspect not. 

I don't know how we got on to motorbikes, but I'm afraid I hate and loathe them. As many will know, surgeons call them donor cycles. Doesn't
matter how great a cyclist you are, just how many other dopes are driving around you.

I stopped to help a lad in his early twenties a few years ago. He just skidded on gravel at low speed, but into a road sign. A high thoracic fracture and in a wheelchair forever. What a dam waste.

Porsches are only ugly when they’re sitting still. When they’re running they are a thing of beauty, provided you’re driving. It’s easy to get killed at those insane speeds but I’ve enjoyed a good long life. Let her run.....
Maybe it’s the virus, although personal attacks had been on the rise before the Covid 19 outbreak.  Social distancing has led to the decline of being social.
@Erik-I think you would have been better, not to have mentioned motorized vehicles.  I’m sure there are other sites, where car and bike enthusiasts can talk about their interests.  It would be nice to stick to the subjects this site is about.
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Those of you that like Porsche stories......I got a special edition last year, called "Exclusive"....basically, a Cayman S very dressed up, lowered, carbon fiber, etc.  The dealer gave me a code, that took me to the Porsche factory via computer to watch my new car being made.   Saw the leather being stitched, etc.  I saw the finished car being put on a boat (looked very much like a giant parking garage inside....hundreds of cars of different brands, each had their own parking space.  I saw the car travel across the Atlantic, go through the Panama Canal, and then up to California.  It was then trucked to Scottsdale, when I raced to the dealer to see my new car in person.   An absolutely fabulous experience.
   I would hope there are no prerequisites for being a audiophile... and would hate to think that my appreciation and love of music, stereo equipment, and everything involved was not recognized because I did not fit someone's definition of an audiophile.
I really don't apply the audiophile label to myself, when someone asks what I like to do or my hobbies I say; I love music, history, technology, old Jeeps. I mean, when they read my eulogy I would hope and rather it say something like "He was a good man, a good person, good neighbor, proudly served his country. Lover of life and always took solace in music, it took him to different places, different times, he connected with it." As opposed to; "  He was a good man, a good person, a Audiophile..."

Looking back I have always been enthusiastic about listening to music, as far back as I can remember. When I was 10-12 I was sitting in front of the speaker in the living room recording music from the radio with a cassette tape deck and microphone.
In the following years pictures show me with portable stereos listening to music.
In my teens I was in music stores searching for that song I had heard on the radio and immediately fell in love with.
From there it was stereos to listen to music, for years I had All In One AVRs until finally a few years ago I made the transition to separates.
I also took all my CDs and put them on a computer with Plex for a media server that is connected to my preamp. I recently found some missing music and went through the entire library adding folders, correcting information, and added a couple hundred songs I forgot I had. Sometimes I feel I am curating a collection, future generations need to know about and hear music like Jay Ferguson's "Thunder Island" or less known but just as good "I come alive". Or Saigon Kick's "Love Is on the Way", or Poco's "Heart of the Night", Cat Stevens, King Harvest, or countless other great artists and songs.

So if all this means I am a audiophile than I'm a audiophile. I just know that I love music, stereo equipment, all of it, and at the end of the day I just want to listen to music.

Oh yeah and I appreciate Porsches for what they are as I appreciate sports cars in general, but I prefer Domestic. 78 Pontiac TA with 455 in my younger days, now a Dodge Charger.

Had a couple of bikes, laid one down. Like they say it is not a matter of If but a matter of When. You have to be willing to accept that, and the ensuing pain.

  Well that was only going to be a paragraph...
" 1 - All Porsches are ugly. This is an indisputable fact no one wants to talk about and means all debate needs to stop right there."

I agree, even after a person showed his 2, (No disrespect intended). They are butt-ugly, but we are in a personal taste context so saying All Porsches are ugly is like saying all Simaudio components are ugly.

I"m glad you are here for the enthusiasts.