Have you changed your mind about a brand? Was it you, or them?


I've changed my mind about many things.  Beer for instance.  Now I can really only drink IPAs and dark beers. Lagers?  Phooey.  This is very different than what I drank in my 20s though. 

Same for audio gear. 

So let me ask all of you, are there brands or equipment you've changed your mind about, for better or worse?  And if so, why?  It doesn't have to be a brand, it can be a TYPE or technology.

For instance, I used to love Ti and Be tweeters.  Now usually can't listen to them.

What about you?
erik_squires
@erik_squires Thanks for the link. I always enjoy your blog posts and have learned a lot.

I think about the B&W move akin to the salt-fat-sugar approach to food. Get their attention and hook them with primal urges. (Only at home to they get fatigued and wonder what's wrong.)
I had B&W 804 Nautilus for about 6 years they were good for HT but I usually ended up listening to music with my AKG 701s. 
I had forgotten: having had my mind blown when I heard the Decca Blue cartridge on Bill Johnson's tonearm (a prototype that never went into production) in '73, I never-the-less went with the flow and replaced it with a Supex moving coil and the Levinson head amp in '74. Again, learned to trust my own taste, and went back to the Decca.

After living with a pair of Magneplanar Tympani's for a year, I was seduced by the new Fulton Model J, which offered deeper bass and the transparency of RTR ESL tweeter (6 of them per speaker). It took me only a coupla months to realize that what a big planar offers is more important to me than what speakers such as the J do (the midrange was reproduced by the 2-way Fulton Model 80, a real good box speaker for it's time). Back to planars!

Then there was the time I replaced my Van Alstine-modified Dynaco PAS tube pre-amp with the hot new New York Audio Labs tube/mosfet hybrid Super It phono stage, which turned out to be not-so-hot. Back to pure tubes!

Live and learn. One mistake I DIDN'T make was dumping all my LP's in the late-80's and replace them with CD's. Thank God!

Yeah, I wrote a whole blog about the modern B&W treble response and Stereophile pushing it.  Drives the fans bonkers.


https://speakermakersjourney.blogspot.com/2016/05/stereophile-reviews-data-doesnt-lie.html


Glad to know others have also been scratching their head in wondering.
@twoleftears And I held them in *really* high esteem, so they have really fallen.

I like your question about the reverse. And one has to be careful with these questions, since there can be a gap between the lower line of a brand and their upper levels of product. So, can be an apples to oranges comparison mistake.

I will add one comment, namely, that I really thought Adcom was very mediocre, but I realized that of my two units -- a tuner/preamp and the amp -- that once I paired a really good tube preamp with the adcom power amp (535L), it sounded pretty darn good. In other words, the amp is still only mid-fi, but it has much greater potential paired with a good preamp than I previously thought.
Totally agree on B&W, which is what I was going to post about.

Owned DM1800’s for a long, long time and thoroughly enjoyed them. Back then, I would have ranked them high in the pantheon of great British speaker makers.

More recently, auditioning much newer models, I thought them either mediocre or unlistenable.

I wonder if the reverse direction is less common: anyone dislike a brand and then later come around to them?
I used to have a lot of respect for lower end B&W speakers; bought my dad some in the 1990s and they sounded nice with NAD gear.

On my recent outings to audition bookshelves, all the B&W speakers were over-bright to the point of aggressive harshness. I understand this was a choice on their part, perhaps?f
I bought my first new headphone, after 25 years with Beyerdynamic Dt 990 indestructible headphone that my wife break with the aspirator, 8 years ago, Hifiman He 400 replace them; but they break themselves in 2 parts suddenly after 4 years of using them with care for no reason excess defective design....Paid a 300 hundred bucks at this time for a defective hyper hyped product....It gives me a first lesson.... Some other comes after....For sure i will never buy Hifiman products in the future.... Nor any too hyped new one..... :)

My wife remember that accident because that motivate my obsessive journey in audio audiophile experience for the good 7 years ago....I mange to do that without much money but with success....

My speakers and audio system is so good ( vintage speakers Mission Cyrus and amplifier Sansui AU 7700)now that i dont use any of my 7 headphones even the Stax models.... Good Speakers rightfully embed trash them all on all counts....

My best....

A remark: Contrary to the Hifiman experience, the Mission experience and the Sansui experience were so good i bought another model for each one of these brand with complete satisfaction....
Ok, being of German descent Lager beer is where its at for myself.
Windhook Lager is just jolly fine too - and of course all brewed to "German Reinheitsgebot" i.e. no 🌽 Mais, rice 🍚 , or any other unspeakable stuff added to replace barley malts. 
Amen. 

As for Audio... B&W is one brand I lost my 'emotional' connection to.
Gone from affordable floorstanders to way-out pricing and still no more tickling my sound bone.
The first Wilson Watt/Puppy I listened to during a 1996 audition in Germany.
I didn't 'connect' then - too hyped up a reproduction - a second higher version number of same construction, at my then home in Pretoria SA... terrible sounding bass performance, bad on my ears, and plain wrong to me. 
Though I till beleave Wilson creates some amazing newer items, though completely unaffordable for my liking AND my purse. 
So... disenchanting as well, overall. Maybe I was never enchanted in real-life, just by circumstances? But yeah, surely tickled by them fantastic reviews.
M. 🇿🇦 
I'm more a dark beer guy than a lager drinker, but Ma'a, a brewer based in my new home town of Hilo, brews an excellent enough lager to give my lager drinking a new lease on life.  It's good enough to stand comparison to the lagers I drank in Bavaria...though perhaps not as good as the lagers I drank in the Czech Republic.
My first component system was Fisher, which back in the ’60s I thought was a really top brand.

I’ve been disappointed with Classe for not supporting legacy products when a tuner and an amp were unrepairable.

And I am still sore at Graham Engineering for never sending me an owner’s manual for the Phantom arm, tho I do like the arm.
Sorry I wasn't clear, I was actually trying to focus on audio related brands. :)
Well, that's not a good example of a brand you changed your mind about.  That's just a brand that didn't succeed.
Agree on the beer.  My biggest disappointment was with the Hyperion Sound, the maker of my wonderful HPS-938 speakers. They had speaker of the year for 8 years in the row and speaker of the decade awards from Absolute Sound, not to mention they had orders for 6 months, after 2004 California show.  After that they never advertised, had no dealership base and ended up in bankruptcy.  Now I have speakers with exotic drivers and no support.
LG refrigerators. Compressor breaks after 18 months. Be warned.

Can't beat a Belgian Quad.

Ti tweeters gave me tinnitus.