well you know what the Eagles sang ; “ every form of refuge has it’s price”.....
people who think they need power conditioners often don’t understand how they can rearrange loads on different legs of the main panel, get motors and compressors OFF the audio leg if possible. Not usually expensive even using an electrician. Wall warts and switching supplies do belong on a quality dedicated conditioner ON a dedicated circuit.
finally use your trust spl meter to measure your listening room signal to background noise at five or six points in the day thru nite cycle...you might be shocked....the myth of better power at night just might be better signal to noise...your milage may vary..
I thought I had clean power too. I live in an area that the houses are far enough apart that each house has its own transformer.
I have tried many conditioners and they did improve the sound quality anyway. My latest, is the Audioquest Niagara 7000. It not only improves the sound quality but adds much more dynamics for the amps.
Don't knock it until you try it, you will be surprised and a believer.
I have no noise issues that I can detect. I use no power conditioning. Maybe it's snake oil or maybe it's just not necessary where I live and how I wired my house when I built it. Yes, I mean my family and I built it from the ground up and I wired 85% of the house myself. The transformer for our house is right across the street and blows up about twice a year, any time anything happens in our town. Nonetheless, as long as I have power my system sounds the same every day. I, for one, don't believe I need power conditioning and I believe that people who need to spend $3,000 on it must have less expensive options to consider. Is the ground outside your house perfect? Easy to test.
Being rural and in NZ our power is often prone to surges. I have a surge protector and a power conditioner but it still seems to trip the protection circuits on the newer kit and not affect the older components.One solution (not just for the hi-fi) is to go off grid, but currently its a 30 year return on investment, plus maintenance of equipment, making me 96 when paid off.
About 2 months ago, our local utility installed an additional utility pole transformer, apparently to unburden an overloaded one. A transformer they had been threatening to install for some time, but PG&E has a reputation to maintain. In any case, my system sounds noticeably better as a result. Fewer houses on the transformer. Yes, I have power conditioning.
Nothing like a really clean source, I guess. Here in the Silicon Valley, there is lots of RF pumping around (with smaller lots), and likely a lot of mess on the power lines. Music still sounds best on Saturday and Sunday mornings before the hordes arise...
To the OP: You suspect RF noise, this might be just what it is (or was, in this case). Not coming through your power line but through the air. We should look not only at bad old appliances but also all the wireless we have today.
What’s probably required is a whole tutorial on the dodgy subject of are there or are there not unseen 👀 energy patterns and information fields in the local environment that affect our perceptions, including the sound we hear - at conscious AND subconscious levels. The sound you HEAR in the comfort of your listening room is not (rpt not) the great sound your system is producing, that’s there in the room. You just can’t hear it correctly or completely. Are our brains being controlled by unseen forces?! But I’ve already said too much!
@shkong78,Try out a Inakustik power conditioner and forget all the neighbors. This thing kills noise. You system will sound amazing. At least that is my experience.
When my neighbors use their electric baseboard heat, my Krell integrated amp makes a buzzing noise even in standby. They where summer weekend users until they sold the property too full time residents, and it has become much more of an issue now. The amp is on a dedicated circuit with out any conditioner. Will investing in power conditioner solve the problem?
Wow, if you noticed that, he had to use some really crap electric device and if you are lucky he taken it with him. If not... the noise generator is still there. In second case you have one solution only: take a look at what PSAudio offer. Such audible change suggest that you need regenerator instead of power conditioner. I hope the man will live as long as possible. And I hope the new neighbour appears to be the same nice kind of man... which for sure you will not be able to regenerate :)
I think I saw this on an episode of the Twilight Zone where everyone was suspicious that their neighbors were aliens on a mission to ruin their hifi sound.
I think I saw this on an episode of the Twilight Zone where everyone was
suspicious that their neighbors were aliens on a mission to ruin their
hifi sound.
I doubt that... as I think that audiophiles are more paranoid than that.
I think I saw this on an episode of the Twilight Zone where everyone was suspicious that their neighbors were aliens on a mission to ruin their hifi sound.
I don’t want to be the pessimist here, but establishing cause-and-effect can be a tricky business. There could easily be other reasons for the change in your system’s performance. For example, electric utilities routinely make changes in their distribution systems as part of load balancing. This could be a case of that.
If the house is for sale you could buy it, keep it empty, and have the world's most expensive power conditioner upgrade. Well, maybe. How much does he want?
I use Spiritual Audio power conditioner( I paid 3k$ 7 years ago), 5 separate isolation transformers for each components and decent power cables like Synergistic Blue PC.
Thus I am rather surprised by the change of sound after he moved out.
New neighbor will use this house on weekend or holidays only.
He must have had a piece of equipment that polluted the electrical circuit that you shared. I would think if it returns when you get new neighbors, it may be time to look into power conditioning. Meanwhile enjoy the music. also curious if you see any difference in the TV picture quality.
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