Can (or should) you “Reclock” a Bluesound Node?


I have one going into a pretty darn good system.

I know this could start a jitter discussion, but is there any SQ benefit in connecting the Node to a reclocking device like Wyred4Sound or Denafrips then to your outboard DAC?

the goal being to reduce jitters and feed the DAC with a purer digital signal?

I know they range from $200 to $4,000.
have always wondered if a “digital transport” feeding a dac would add value.

sure, I’m gonna listen me self, but thought to ask you guys,


ianrmack
Absolutely. I added a iFi SPDIF iPurifier 2 to my chain and the improvement was dramatic especially with a LPS
-Alex
2nd the IFI . Not night and day for me but noticeable. Worth a try for couple hundred bucks for sure. Not sure how it compares to the more expensive options. 
@rareace,
can I ask what lps you are using?
I have a bit of experience and the answer is that it really depends on the age of your DAC.  Reclocking older DACs (10 or more years) really helps, by a lot.

However DACs in the modern world have superb jitter rejection already.

The Wyred4Sound is a unit I've tried myself  Works great, but with older DACs.  I absolutely cannot hear a benefit with new DACs at all. YMMV
i tried a w4s reclocker on the digital output of a node 2i early on when i was climbing the learning curve streaming... could not hear a difference with and without

different experience when using a stock sonos streamer... reclocking definitely improved many aspects of the sound

iirc correctly the dacs i had at the time were a chord qutest, a mhdt stockholm and an rme adi2
I used an iFi version 1 with LPS. There was a noticeable improvement, wider soundstage, music had more weight to it.

@erik_squires is right. After a significant DAC upgrade, I didn't need it anymore.
I must point out that I was using the old iFi. There may be some benefit using version 2. 

You shouldn't be using  node to feed a high end dac via spdif 

You want to.use usb only the brand new nodes can do this

Related to this, is that modern DAC's make Redbook (44.1kHz/16 bit) sound as good as the high resolution files.

Older DACs have a big delta when playing these and really only shine with high resolution files.
Can a Reclocking hurt the performance of an older DAC? I'm learning too OP. :-)

I have an OLD 5.1 Krell that I’ve had a long long time. It WAS a great DAC and two channel with sub control (very nice feature at the time) Besides a good AV 20+ years ago. Is it too old? Is there a point where a reclocking will NOT help a DAC that is too old? Still plays and works great...Wonderful remote too.

I run 3 DACs all at least 8 years old, some 20+. At what point is reclocking a good idea?

I would think ALL my systems would work better after 8 years.

I’m just frugal. Will a 300.00 reclocker make my 10 year old C2500 DAC sound better? OR is spending a 1000.00 (or so) for a better one to ALSO help with RtR homebrew recording tapes a good investment and tool to do so with?

I think I’m (kinda') staying on topic, (left handed people you know).. :-) 1000 questions but can’t spell.. Typical lefty.. LOL

Regards
I have revamped my system a little.

Bought a Project Stream Box S2 Ultra streamer, feeding this into a modded LKS DA-004 Dac (via Mad Scientist Black Magic USB).
Finally replacing an old Macbook Pro as source.

I'm planning to add my M2Tech Hiface Evo 2/Evo Clock with Black Cat Silverstar cables. A good move?
@audiotroy 
Why not SPDIF?  It's an Audio Note w/o USB. These DACs come stock with SPDIF coax and BNC, some with AES EBU.

Not sure how a 'reclocker' works but I have just added an 'external' very high quality clock to my digital system.  This does not 'reclock' the signal, but presents an external timing reference to the component.  The component was a dCS Network Bridge.  

The impact was magic.   

The bigger 'magic' (by orders of magnitude) was upgrading the clock cable from the basic one that was supplied - this is not necessarily expensive.   Caelin Gabriel (owner Shunyata) advises the jitter removal from this action is what brings digital into analog territory. I can only agree.

Best wishes

Aubrey
*g*  I can't wait until y'all start water-cooling the chips.....;)

...but I'm obviously teasing....maybe....
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@audiotroy  unfortunately, Bluesound still haven't released the firmware update to activate the USB on the latest Node for digital out. Apparently its slated for around the end of this year.

Us users are stuck with SPDIF at the moment 🥴
Re-clocking outght to help.  I know turning the clock off on the Node will have a strong positive impact. 

I am about to start experimenting with the Audiobyte HUB (fingers crossed soon I hope) and the Antipodes S20 but have no POV on specific reclockers at this time.  


My two cents is that it has far less to do with the source (Bluesound here i think) than with the DAC or whatever the next stage is.
A re-clock will make up for poor jitter reduction in the following DAC.  If its a great DAC with a very low jitter clock, then not.
beyond jitter you also want to keep ground noise out of the DAC/"digital" connection.  Remember the digital connection is quasi analog (magnitude is digital, time domain is analog, determined by clocking). read my blog at sonogyresearch.com.
So there are many ways to achieve this - one of the best is to have a bridge and an Ethernet connection from source --> bridge ad then isolated USB --> DAC.
Get to the basics rather than throw expensive boxes at it. They can only do, basically, these two things.
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IndigoCard Wrote:

It depends mostly on the DAC and its implementation. I'm not familiar with your Lyngdorf, but at its price point, I would expect it to have a pretty decent DAC. I'd be surprised if the Node 2i sounded better.

Streaming from my computer to my MHDT Labs Orchid sounds much better than streaming to my BlueSound Node 2, I can tell you that.