blue jeans cable?

I'm currently using Audioquest cable, it's 4 solid copper wires. It's strange, 2 wires are thicker than the other two. I've twisted 2 wires together (1 thick & 1 thin) for + & - connection to speaker. The cables are terminated with banana plugs. Over time the banana plugs come loose from speaker & receiver and it's a PITA to move everything to re-connect. I've already used a screw driver to expand the shaft. These cables are about 15 yrs old. I saw that Blue Jeans Cable has Canare 4s11 wire with locking banana connectors.  Would the BJ speaker cables be an upgrade or should I buy better quality banana plugs for the AQ cable? If better connectors are the answer who makes quality connectors that won't break the bank.  
Thanks in advance for any sage advice that is given

Well, if you absolutely MUST know I don’t use speaker cables. I also don’t use power cords or interconnects or a digital cable. 🤗

I didn't read this whole thread. I respect your opinion and was just wondering about what you decided to put into your system. I use Canard 411s and alternate with Kimber Kable 12tc

I’m still thinking about the question.

Geoff. What speaker wire do you use? Brand and gauge? Thanks

Monster cable really hurt the cable industry with some of the nonsense they did and such.  Better sounding cables are real, and you don't have to spend a ton.

I've purchased 2 Blue Jeans cables, and they make decent entry level stuff.  For superior sound quality, what you want is solid core copper strands in your cables, each strand individually insulated.  Fine stranded cables lack this and it shows.

I used to think cable tech was bunk, until I tried a pair of Audioquest Type 4 speaker cables.  The difference was quite notable.  All of the sudden, the sound was cleaner, had better detail and a better soundstage was the result.  They replaced fine strand Oxygen free copper.  

I now have solid core based cables at every  power and IC cable as well.  But Blue Jeans is at least better than the garbage Amazon brand and Monoprice brand cables.

My first upgrade after 20 years of Monster cable was Blue Jeans ,
I went with the 10 gauge Belden speaker wire and they where great sounding but like many that enjoy the hobby there's more out there .
So when a pair of used ( major manufacture )  cables appeared at a resonable price I tried then and liked them but !
I moved up the product line again and liked what I heard but !
I am going to try making my own speaker cables by using cable made by the same major manufacture .
I'll end up with larger gauge than I have ( I beleve that it is the same gauge that was used on their top level cable )  but without the twisting ,colored jacket and the high price .

Regarding Blue Jean cables, keep in mind that Blue Jeans basically assemble the cables.  I have both their Canare and Belden speaker cables and greatly prefer their Canare cables.

They are very nice folks and real professionals or at least real engineers. I am buying two sets of longer RCA to RCA's from them because of price and the fact that the component being used isn't mission critical.

That said I bought a digital cable from them a while back and pulled it out of service shortly after. Just dead flat, dull lifeless. Replaced it with a Monarchy DR-1 that I bought used for $95.

That cable is a game changer! Dynamic, detail, lush, big etc. yes it's stiff as a coat hanger and thick as a garden house but it's the difference between sound and music.

Yes it's just zero's and ones, technically shouldn't make a difference but there is so much we still don't know about, like Dark Matter : ) Anyway for secondary sources I don't see any reason not to go with Blue Jean.

Good products. Not audiophile dressing, but they function as a cable should. Cost vs. performance is very good. Their HDMI cables is as good as it gets. 

OMG! 👀 😬

geoff,

You've been so busy writing that you failed to "Check 6."
I'm right on your tail. 

Parts and power? No problemo.

“The MiG-29 has been manufactured in several major variants, including the multirole Mikoyan MiG-29M and the navalised Mikoyan MiG-29K; the most advanced member of the family to date is the Mikoyan MiG-35. Later models frequently feature improved engines, glass cockpits with HOTAS-compatible flight controls, modern radar and IRST sensors, and considerably increased fuel capacity; some aircraft have also been equipped for aerial refuelling.

Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the militaries of a number of former Soviet republics have continued to operate the MiG-29, the largest of which is the Russian Air Force. The Russian Air Force wanted to upgrade its existing fleet to the modernised MiG-29SMT configuration, but financial difficulties have limited deliveries. The MiG-29 has also been a popular export aircraft; more than 30 nations either operate or have operated the aircraft to date, India being one of the largest export operators of the type. In 2013 the MiG-29 was still in production by Mikoyan, a subsidiary of United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) since 2006.”

This just in: “About 1,600 MiG-29s are currently operational worldwide and approximately 600 MiG-29s and variants are in service with the Russian Air Force.”

cheers

Where are you getting the parts and maintenance to keep it flying?

And, there's the small matter of relative thrust and vertical climb capabilities

Just asking

I wouldn’t be too sure. To whit,

Aerodynamics:
The cropped F-22 delta wings generate greater static drag than the MiG-29’s tapered swept wings, there is a good reason they aren’t used on non-stealth fighters. Another major aerodynamic difference is that the F-22 lacks wing root extensions which generate chine vortex over the wing thus greatly increasing lift and reducing drag.

The vortex also augments the rudder’s effect at high alpha flight. Both aircraft have abundantly large rudders, but the MiG-29 has larger envelope of controllable flight and better post-stall recovery, as demonstrated by the Cobra maneuver.

The MiG-29’s airfoil generates more lift for less drag at high alpha with better stability, has a higher maximum angle of attack and superior stall recover characteristics.

Avionics:
It’s (the F-22) designed with great faith in stealth, Lockheed prioritized beyond visual range combat capabilities over dogfight performance, thus omitted a helmet mounted sighting system. Thrust vectoring is one feature which does enhance the F-22’s agility and reduce energy bleed, but it seems to be simply super-imposed on the flat exhaust design meant as a stealth measure.

The APG-77 provides +/-120° field of coverage in azimuth and elevation, which is the highest possible value for a flat phased array antenna. The original N-010 Zhuk radar has +/- 90° range in azimuth and +55/-40° in elevation. This gives the F-22 some advantage in limit of radar acquisition parameters, but unlike the HMS equipped MiG, the pilot still has to manually point the aircraft within a much smaller parameter to obtain radar lock.

🤗 cheers, from my MIG-29

I’m in a MIG-29 at 65,000. Be sure not to shoot yourself down.

No Immelmanns for me - - - maybe for you, as I'm above you and have a lock-on.

Whoa! I’ll be on the lookout out for Immelmanns. 👀

geoffkait
I'm an old fighter pilot.
Had you in the circle in my gunsight - - - all the way.

First I made my own bi-wire cables :-).  Bought a pair of their Canare cables and the sound improvement was rather dramatic.  The build quality is outstanding IMHO, and the price was definitely right. 

Bogie at 12 o’clock! Dive, dive! ✈️

All I needed was 1.5 feet between connectors , replaced a 4 foot straight wire I have had for a few years. I use their canare for speakers. 

I got my new digital coax today from blue jeans , listening to On an Island and Gilmour's guitar has never souned better. Amazing detail, highly recommended and it only has about 1 hour on it and when my brain becomes more familiar I am sure it will only improve. Best $23 I ever spent. 

You are much too kind.

They are decent Entry level cables,not much more .
Wireworld , Audioquest are good ,Kimber8tc is a classic .
supra makes excellent bang for the buck for under $500 for some very good speaker cables,  and interconnects very wellpriced.
madisound sells them . I use theirwire internally in my new Speakers . I use very well respected Verastarr Audio cables .
abithigher pricedthen average But also better resolution .
cables can go into the 5 $$ digit category if you want to spend and have the $$. I meet the logic 1/2way on spending.

geoffkait,

With almost 11,000 posts under your belt, displaying exceptional technical knowledge of many of the subjects on the Forum,  IMO, you truly are a most positive, delightful, prolific and and entertaining troll. 

Anyone who can make a career out of turning audiophile truths on their head and calling them lies and supporting his assertions with a bizarre form of anti audiophile pseudo logic, well hat’s off to him, partner! 🤠

geoffkait

I guess you're correct.

My 68 years of experience with recording media and playback capabilities must really be crap. 

prof
brayeagle, you know how it goes. If you express that view (Peter Aczel), either your ears are crap, your gear is crap, or both ;-)

Drop the smiley face and I agree. 🤠

I just wanted to correct a bad link I posted. It's http://www.cabledyne.com/ and not cabledynecables. 

All the best,
Nonoise

Solid quality gear at very fair prices and leadtime
my vintage system mostly wired with Bluejeans

brayeagle, you know how it goes.  If you express that view, either your ears are crap, your gear is crap, or both ;-)

Wow. This all went sideways rather quickly. 🤔
I like my Blue Jeans cables and would recommend their products. 
My personal preference is to spend for quality cables but not exotic cables. 
I also like Dyson Audio products. He will do custom builds and stands by his products. 
I just bought a WireWorld interconnect and so far it seems to be of good quality. 

prof,  

I guess my Peter Azcel views are too low fi for this list

You're welcome @grannyring .  It's kind of nice to find someone who's somewhat in the middle of all of this having designed cables for a living and going just a bit further with better quality parts and not charging an arm and a leg.

All the best,
Nonoise

Correct @waltersalas

I was just emailing and learning about a great line of high end cables from an ex-designer at Belden for years. He certainly knows his stuff and realizes better sounding cables can be made, but they will cost more due to the parts quality. Thanks @nonoise for the tip!

nonoise,

You're speaking of yourself, right?

In regards to what?  

But such details don't seem to matter when it comes to audiophiles who hold their own perception as inviolable and indisputable.   

Whose perception should we defer to when making choices about our systems, if not our subjective perception of what sounds best to us?

You're speaking of yourself, right?

So you have a dealer (BJ Cables) who knows it all and denigrates others who feel otherwise based on their own experience. Not the objective type, I’d wager. Gotta love the know-it-alls.

Unless jaybe is an electrical engineer, or has experiencing manufacturing cable, it's rather likely the the owner of BJ cables does know more than jaybe about cables.


But such details don't seem to matter when it comes to audiophiles who hold their own perception as inviolable and indisputable.  

Grannyring's first post summed up my experience perfectly.  They make a decent range of cables and they're excellent value. However I soon discovered that I could make meaningful (to my ears) improvements by spending a little more on other . I'd personally recommend improving cables beyond BJ quality before getting into serious component upgrades, although there are many people who quite satisfied with them. 

Agree + Grannyring...

@jayctoy 

Yes indeed. As I said it may well be system, taste, or even location driven. The same cable is loved by some and hated by others. Love this hobby! 

@grannyring , I got the economical Synergy set and just may plunge for the Virtuoso in the future. The Synergy still uses 12 GA cryo'd silver stranded conductors but the bananas are gold plated over copper. 

Going all silver is very tempting.

All the best,
Nonoise

Granny , I am using the LC 1 interconnect from my turntable to my tube preamp , no trace of brightness, It’s connected as Doub Schroeder method, double Ic....

Nonoise, did you get the top tier silver or the more economical set? 

@grannyring , sure thing.
They're Cabledynecables.com. They've been mentioned before in some threads and I've always wondered about their potential. On a lark, I took a chance on their speaker cables and liked them enough to keep them.

They have the tightest image focus I've heard in my system. Nothing is vague or difficult to pinpoint. It took a couple of days for the highs to fully open and the base took another day to flesh out with authority but remains tight and textured. It's not the most dominant base I've heard but rather, the most accurate as it never draws attention to itself until some real base is encountered and then you finally realize what decent base sounds like. It's always in proportion.

I think the shielding along with the overall construction accounts for their performance. Tight fitting banana terminations help as well. Just for the heck of it I replaced my Tempo Electric SCs and everything kind of went south. I had gotten so used to the sound of the Cabledynes that I hadn't noticed how much more they progressed in breaking in since when I first swapped them out, the delta wasn't that large except for the killer focus.

I still love the Tempos with my Marantz (I have no idea how it would sound with the Cabledynes) but with the Kinki EX-M1, the Cabledynes fully compliment the amp, like they were made for them.

All the best,Nonoise