If all you want is loud with plaster cracking bass and volume get a pair of Bose 901’s, add two subs. This will make your ears bleed with loud bad sound.
Big Below 15k used that can play loud as heck
I moved into a way larger room, roughly 20x24 and the 802D’s just ain’t cutting the mustard. Looking for good options that can pound out bass in a large room with 500-1000 high end watts (pass or levinson etc)
Currently running 2 JL Fathom F113’s so it’s not low bass, it’s a speaker that can pump concert level music playing rap, hip hop, reggae, rock and classical/audiophile stuff etc. but I need my rig to blast rap and hiphop impressively more than anything.
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You might want to consider preparing the room first. Big, heavy rug on a heavy felt mat will make the room feel acoustically sweeter...you may not need to go as big in the speakers. Get rid of all the hard reflective things and replace them with softer diffused things. Get creative with the room and even stand mounts will sound bigger. |
$15K???
I got you covered. Just come on by, pay me, and have your furniture movers bring it to you.
For $15K you would get a pair of one-off Super Reds most probably made by The Mastering Labs. These are 15.5 cubic feet with the Altec 604E2 and Utah auxilliary woofer. As I said, these are custom in walnut and triamped with a one-off electronic crossover, again, probably from The Mastering Labs, and one-off passive eq units, probably from The Mastering Labs, to go between the amp and the horns. All drivers look and play like new and when the JBL group met here, everyone said these were the best sounding 604s anyone had ever heard. I got them from a recording studio in Southern California that went out of business. But wait..., there’s more! The system includes a Marantz 1180DC integrated that serves as the preamp and powers the horns, and two Marantz 170DC power amps. One of the power amps was recapped with Mundorfs. All three pieces were recently serviced and all repairs made.
And to top it all off, it includes a Marantz 2130 tuner with the scope that works fine. I’ll even throw in the rack and Philips 212. You will not find another system like this anywhere in the world!
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In your previous room you were able to get impactful bass at 87dB, but in your new larger room the B&Ws start to run out of steam before you hit 80dB. These are not particularly loud listening levels. The B&Ws are not an easy load, but the Parasound JC1 should be more than sufficient to get you above 100dB in near or mid-field listening. I would not change your loudspeakers until you experiment with loudspeaker and listening position. I'm guessing, but your room may have a frequency response null in the mid-bass range. Using your SPL run some frequency sweeps to gain more information. |
Happy '22, but when is 'too much' too much? We're all too familiar with the 'basser vehicle' buzzing as if a bumblebee in a hiccup fit...( C'mon, kidz...Permatex Everything that twists or turns into tight & add a quarter...silicone all that remains...)... When does the source equipment need to be 'offsite' enough? NASA launch facilities begin to have relevance; far enough away to not intercept blown capacitors, cable melts, tube flares....any audiomalady that has or could occur within even the illogical. "It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel Fine (until something goes *foom*) until the weeping and gnashing of teeth and treasure..." 😏 Personally, I've yet to be offended by the odd oldhvymec ('Bots' that? *L*) Pin to bottom of chicken coop, starve chickens. (Once upon a millennia, they be lizards....and Big) Still hungry after all these yearns.... Maybe I'm just shock-proof....comfortably numb...looking to burn out bright. Play loud and often, how accomplished is just part of the fun. Into the future, J
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It is funny, when I started out in high end audio wanting loud. But the better my system the less I wanted it. I know this progression had something to do with distortion going down dramatically along the way… I am not sure if my age going up had anything to do with it. I used to keep turning it up to make it more satisfying, now I guess I do the same thing. Late 20’s ~95db… late 60’s ~ 72db. |
It would be a shame to use the Dunlavy for shake purpose only. I used to be on board with the big Klipsches but as I grew older I grew wiser and no longer think of them as "hard rocking" or loud speakers. They simply get too harsh at super high volumes unless you've done some crazy mods or treatment. I always felt the mids/highs kept going with the bass trying to keep up (yes with the Klipschorn too). I've had Khorns, La Scalas, Cornwalls, Chorus, Forte, CF3 etc.. I'd say the best sounding speaker when cranking to party levels is the Chorus 2. But after owning the Tekton Double Impact, I find them just as loud but much more pleasing at the high volume. They don't scream at you as much and you sense more of the lower/midbass thumb/slam.
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These are flat out reference quality monitors:
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/lisaebe3-mint-condition-in-walnut-jbl-4367-speakers-full-range |
Do try the Volti Audio Rivals! Very efficient (98 + db according to Stereophile), can play VERY loud w/ not many good watts & most importantly, sound excellent! Big, open, dynamic but also detailed, nuanced w/ a beautiful midrange & image. Email or call Greg Roberts (owner, designer & builder) & talk w/ him in TN. They easily have the dynamics of any Klipsch but also the smoothness & detail of any speaker close to their price range ($12 - $18K depending on style & finish). |
Wow, did the boomers come out to sound ignorant or what? "you listen to rap music, so let's recommend speakers that are loud but sound like crap because you obviously don't care about the quality of sound" I think the recommendations for Klipsch are right now, maybe some Line Magnetic or JBL too? I also agree that it sounds like your room has limitations more than the speakers you have, you could end up throwing a ton of money at a new system to only have the room just swallow that all up and give you back nothing in improvements. |
@danager+1, the Altec VOTT will do the job and do it beautifully. Although it uses a 15"/16" driver it does benefit from well integrated subs. You will probably find it with the 511 horn for the high range. Remember they were used for cinema and can crank like crazy while still sounding great. You may need to reinforce the cabinets and damp the alloy horn but the extra work is well worth it. Check to see that the cab is loaded with the Altec 416 woofer and that it is not sporting some cheap replacement rubbish. All parts still available from GPA |
I thought I responded to this discussion already and if so, I apologize. Volti Audio Rivals are just about as efficient as any Klipsch, will play VERY loud with maybe 20 watts and sound better than any of them. The hand built quality of construction, crossover components and drivers are also superior to them. Look great, sound great ( big, open, dynamic but also detailed) and not crazy large. Contact Greg Roberts in TN, he’s the owner, designer and builder and would be happy to talk with you. |
