A.I. music


Possibly of interest: "the current rush to advance generative AI technology could be "spiritually, politically, and economically" corrosive. By effectively removing people, like musicians, from algorithms and tech that create new content, elements of society that were once connections between people are turned into "objects" that become less interesting and meaningful, Lanier explained.

"As soon as you have the algorithms taking music from musicians, mashing it up into new music, and then not paying the musicians, gradually you start to undermine the economy because what happens to musicians now happens to everybody later," Lanier said.

He noted that, while this year has been the "year of AI," next year the world is going to be "flooded, flooded with AI-generated music."


https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-jaron-lanier-ai-advancing-without-human-dignity-undermines-everything-2023-10

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Pandora has left the building. Sure there’s “good”’AI but in the hands of evil doers or computers on their own ( that's coming along too ) and big trouble will be in the mix more and more.  AI is perfect tool for the root of all evil. 

I just published a paper that speaks directly to this subject ("Our Minds, Our Selves: Mind, Meaning, and Machines," forthcoming in Borderless Philosophy 7 later this year). It argues that machines cannot be minds because they lack sentience and community, the two features of embodied beings (human beings) for whom things have meaning and value. Computers certainly can, because they already do, create poems, artworks, stories, music, even jokes. But such products become valuable and meaningful (become "art," if you like) only in a complex process of reception. The essay is fairly technical, regarding both computer engineering and philosophy, but I'd be happy to provide a PDF to anyone who might be interested. DM me if you'd like to take a look.

AI isn’t really intelligent. It’s a data mining algorithm. It creates nothing on its own without referencing human work. It just accesses what is already created very well and can assemble it however it is asked to perform.

The problem is not the alleged intelligence of A.I. or his alleged lack of intelligence theoretically.

The problem is social and the way people will be pushed in spite of themselves to idolize it willing it or not...

Some temptation cannot be passed over...

Except for saints and geniuses...

 

 

 

 

Indeed you are very right ...

AI will be primarily a money making tool and whenever money enters the fray, the more of it at stake, the more it will be abused. Think about how negative of an overall force social media has become in society (more so in the future) exponentially magnified in ways we can barely imagine at this stage in the form of AI.

 Saying all that i am not a Jeovah disciple refusing blood to his children or an Amish  refusing a computer... some children will walk and touch and feel to A.I. and see or hear again ... Etc

 

The problem is not A.I. it is the diabolic ways our sicial fabric were perverted by Capitalism from his inception before adam Smith as described by the genius Hayel called " our master to us all " : Bernard Mandeville... Even the wokeness movement is explained  by this genius operating social blueprint published way before Marx and Smith and Freud , in 1705 ina fable and few opuscules forgotten by most but not by some from Adam Smith who plagiarize him to Hayek the founder of neo liberalism school with 8 Nobels in economy ...

The reason is was threatened of be burned on the stakes many times , is that Mandevelille trevealed how must operate social control to make possible richness and more profit ... closing and privatize all charities and prisons  , opening all bordels and casinos ...  Because all private vices makes the collective virtue...

 His analysis of social class make Marx a children at primary school, and his cynism make machiavel look line a praying nun...

He risk deaths and prison because he published what became the capitalism and neo liberalism of today...

 He explain it anticipating Freud unconscious long before him. Mandeville was by profession " a doctor of the soul "  today psychologist ...😁

 

AI will be primarily a money making tool and whenever money enters the fray, the more of it at stake, the more it will be abused. Think about how negative of an overall force social media has become in society (more so in the future) exponentially magnified in ways we can barely imagine at this stage in the form of AI.

AI isn’t really intelligent. It’s a data mining algorithm. It creates nothing on its own without referencing human work. It just accesses what is already created very well and can assemble it however it is asked to perform.

I dont want a mix of Wagner and Mozart ...

Nor any other mix..

Music is not electronical mixing sounds or styles...( it could be fun one hour )

Music is about historically grounded creativity rooted in specific bodies and souls of humam artists...

Music is not sounds, as some people too focussed on audio gear thought it is, music is culturally recognized meanings in metamorphosis...

Music is not only a background fun noise as it could be ...It is mostly a joyful content who taught us deep meanings...

It is why A.I. mixing cannot be an esthetical goal... Only a marketing circus product...

I will not buy it... Sorry ...😁😊

 

And yes i am too serious.... 😋

Or perhaps not enough serious facing this A.I. cataclysm in the hand of criminal corporations...

pick your choice...

Led Zeppelin will definitely benefit from this mix...

Bach will not benefit at all ...😊

Imagine Led Zeppelin is a beautiful woman and Bach a male genius she want him as husband to procreate together :

 

«Reportedly there was famous exchange between the prominent playwright George Bernard Shaw and the glamorous dancer Isadora Duncan on the topic of producing a child together. Duncan stated that Shaw had a magnificent brain and she had a glorious beauty; the combination would yield a remarkable child. Shaw replied with regret that he feared the result would embody his beauty and her brains.»

 

@mapman 

Or what if Bach joined Led Zeppelin?   Wouldn't that be interesting!

 

(Did this with fotor and powerpoint)

This is free to read and is probably the best explanation of neural network with diagrams...

Design your own A.I. 😊 And beat caveman Bach at music composition with little help...

https://openreview.net/forum?id=RyZB4qXEgt

I think that between Bernard Mandeville corrupted but creative and rich hive society as a model of capitalism using A.I. as tool and the Amish refusal there is a middle way determined by the rethinking of the social fabric hierarchies value ...

This exclude unelected Bill Gates or Google takes over of societies priority...

I cannot say more here ... 😊

 

Music is meanings, not abstracted meaning only but  concrete recognized meaning born from the human body metabolism and soul history...

 A.I. music will be a corruption of music sold as entertainment ...

Some musicians composers will used it...

I will stick to the acoustically rooted musician playing a historically meaningful instrument...

I prefer didgeridoo anyway to electronica...

😁

So true...

Thanks for your post... I like Rick Beato ...

If you listen to Rick Beato talk about why today’s music is so boring, and understand a little bit about how generative AI works, you will see that generative AI is pretty much made for today’s music.

Copy (with minor tweaks) or just sample. Lather, rinse repeat. 
 

It’s very likely AI will define the next trend in music, rather than just quickly emulate it, since most people are already conditioned to expect a lack of creativity. 

If you listen to Rick Beato talk about why today’s music is so boring, and understand a little bit about how generative AI works, you will see that generative AI is pretty much made for today’s music.

Copy (with minor tweaks) or just sample. Lather, rinse repeat. 
 

It’s very likely AI will define the next trend in music, rather than just quickly emulate it, since most people are already conditioned to expect a lack of creativity. 

I think most people dont understand A. I. at all ...

They dont understand how it will be used...

They dont figured out why we will all be affected by it even if we entertain the illusory freedom to ignore it... ( we can ignore ONLY in a cave )

Some misanthropist dont like mankind and wait for A.I....

The social fabric is not mature now nor consciously ruled by conscious beings , but driven by sleepwaking powerful individuals who push transhumanist agenda...

 

I dont want Musak escalator music and i dont want perfect recreation of Bach music by A. I. either no more than i wanted my wife replication perfectly done by A. I. after his death...

I want real nature with no A.I. with real fishing on a real river and real mosquitoes , not the mosquitoes engineered by Frankenstein Gates , time to time ...

 

Listen to the last podcast of Joe Rogan where the pope of transhumanism Kurzweil who predict more than human intelligence soon is babbling answers to Joe Rogan astute observation about security and privacy questions... Incredible!...

 

«I sold my robot because he is more intelligent than me. Anyway for now he cannot sell me but my wife called it back»--🤓

The good news is if you ever wonder what might have happened if The Beatles and Pink Floyd merged to form a supergroup in 1970, you may be able to find out very soon.

Or what if Bach joined Led Zeppelin?   Wouldn't that be interesting!

OP talks of "next year" and cites an article from "last year."

My apologies. It was from last October. So, "recently." So sorry for the error.

Who needs human beings?  
Nothin’ but trouble.  
Maybe A.I. can enslave us and mine our “soulfulness” reservoirs and then figure out how to getter emulate the human factor in music creation.  
Then we’d be set!

If it sounds good to you embrace it.

Otherwise ignore, like many human creations.

OP talks of "next year" and cites an article from "last year."

Hopefully it just becomes a new genre, but knowing how things work (ie follow the money, cut costs) probably not.

Ai has huge potential to be used or abused and who will even know the difference?