A.I. music


Possibly of interest: "the current rush to advance generative AI technology could be "spiritually, politically, and economically" corrosive. By effectively removing people, like musicians, from algorithms and tech that create new content, elements of society that were once connections between people are turned into "objects" that become less interesting and meaningful, Lanier explained.

"As soon as you have the algorithms taking music from musicians, mashing it up into new music, and then not paying the musicians, gradually you start to undermine the economy because what happens to musicians now happens to everybody later," Lanier said.

He noted that, while this year has been the "year of AI," next year the world is going to be "flooded, flooded with AI-generated music."


https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-jaron-lanier-ai-advancing-without-human-dignity-undermines-everything-2023-10

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OP talks of "next year" and cites an article from "last year."

My apologies. It was from last October. So, "recently." So sorry for the error.

Good conversation. I assume you are all real.

I appreciate @mahgister pointing out that the social and economic systems controlling A.I.’s development and uses require the greatest scrutiny. Of course, we’re all raised to resist criticisms of economic and political systems. In that sense, we have already ceded a fair amount of autonomy to algorithms -- it’s just that they’re human-made ideologies. (If you find yourself revolted at that idea, you might just be the victim of an ideology.)

Thanks for additional insight, @sfgak 
It’s nice to see someone not just shooting from the hip.

"I use AI and language models to help people in healthcare, and it can do amazing things. But the history of the Internet and computing says that the bad and/or careless people will dominate in the end, and in this case more than any other to date, the genie is out of the bottle. The people who can make money or influence elections won’t care how dangerous AI can become if not properly nurtured in the early stages."

Be nice if we cured cancer with A.I., no?

This will be a test about how much we care about our children and one another. We cannot give in to pessimism. We have to question our presumptions -- and that may mean questioning the profit-motive (sacred cow!) and any other fixed ideas which prevent us from safeguarding what we value.

As T.S. Eliot said, "For us, there is only the trying. The rest is not our business."

Trying to keep up here but there are too many words. I will ask A.I. to summarize. ;-)

@mahgister

Don’t you understand what it means when someone won’t stop talking?

However interesting your comments or information -- it's not good thread etiquette. It's obsessive-compulsive, in my opinion.

You’re sucking the oxygen out of the thread by posting over and over and over. I’m done with this thread for a while.