Ruminations On CD Players


After multiple factory rebuilds, I'm ready to replace my twenty year old Arcam CD-73 CD player.  I've looked through lists of recommended CD players in the $2000 range, and have noticed that some are all-inclusive while others have separate transports and DACs.  Other than ease of replacement, what are the benefits of having the transport and DAC separate?  Any recommendations on CD players in this price range?  I only have music CDs so don't need anything that can do more than that.

 

Thanks,

John Cotner

New Ulm, MN

jrcotner

@lalitk 

No, it's not the same for the very same reason you brought up: physical touch, which was my point. Akin but not exact. Everyone who pushes streaming sounds like they're reciting ad copy from the manufacture. Others here have pointed out that all that's out there doesn't really appeal to them. Same with me. 

The main point of my take was that there's music out there in a store setting that you happen upon whereas with streaming you have to intentionally look for something you have no idea of exists. No algorithm is going to push that at you.

For the price of one CD you have a tenuous hold on all that music as the provider can change or drop it at will. You never really own it. You're just renting it, and by the sound of it, hoarding it. Some of the time it's not what they say it is (HiRez). There is also music that is only on CD that's not available online (certain versions, takes, special editions, rare venues, etc.).

If this were happening in China (which we're starting to emulate) you'd all be getting high marks for being that good citizen/consumer.

All the best,
Nonoise

 

Some of the chatter (which I highly respect) on Compact Disc and her future survival after all this time boggles the mind. Happens to be my preferred format since its conception. Yeah, those Redbook. Besides, if one angles them sunlight just right … “blinded by the light.”

@nonoise we share something important in common. In fact, two out of three … not bad of an average if ya asked me.

@lalitk 

I did not mean this to be a debate, just a matter of differing opinions.

@dabel 

Hey, two out of three ain't bad at all. 😄 Despite CDs not doing as well as vinyl and streaming here, stateside, CDs have double the sales of vinyl in Germany and England. I don't think CDs are going anywhere for the foreseeable future. 

All the best,
Nonoise

@nonoise Sorry, but there’s some info here that’s just not true and needs to be corrected.

Everyone who pushes streaming sounds like they’re reciting ad copy from the manufacture.

It’s manufacturer. Manufacture is a verb, not a noun.

For the price of one CD you have a tenuous hold on all that music as the provider can change or drop it at will. You never really own it.

That’s not true. At least on Qobuz and probably most others you have the option to purchase and download music in which case you do own it. Plus, you have the flexibility to download just the songs you like if you prefer and not have to buy the whole CD.

The main point of my take was that there’s music out there in a store setting that you happen upon whereas with streaming you have to intentionally look for something you have no idea of exists.

That’s also not true in my experience. I’m constantly finding excellent new music in Qobuz I didn’t know existed, and there are thousands upon thousands more options there than in any store anywhere. You’re wrong that you can’t just randomly find interesting new music through streaming — just flat-out wrong. Plus, I can find just about everything you can find in any store on Qobuz with relatively very few exceptions while you can’t find a small fraction of what’s on Qobuz in any store. Period.

I get that you like the tactile feel of flipping through discs at a store and that’s fine, but don’t pretend that streaming is some substandard way to discover new music because it’s absolutely not and you’re just speaking out of total ignorance. If u wanna stay old school that’s fine and to each his own, but don’t put down streaming just because you don’t understand it and it’s not your bag. You’re in the extreme minority here in that virtually none of us would give up streaming and go back to searching for physical media in stores (or even online). What does that tell you?