Ripping music is what a lot of people did a decade ago. These days most people just stream.
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larryi buying/selling used lps or cds gives nothing to anyone except the seller, Post Office, and fees such as eBay/PayPal. As always, the entire chain of income must rely on ’new’ releases, in todays formats, which will be freely shared ..... not the same issue, but a Pet Peeve of mine is buying items like used cars, where ’new’ taxes must be paid for items that taxes were originally paid in full at original sale. Now, taxes are collected on used sales on eBay. |
If the seller of a large collection of music that was ripped from CDs also delivered the CDs to the buyer of the collection that would be fine. But, if the seller makes multiple copies of what was ripped, that is a copyright violation. It is "fair use" to take your personal collection and convert it to another medium for your own use, but, you cannot sell or even give away that converted collection. If I made copies by ripping and I gave away the CDs that were copied, that would be a violation too. If I did not did not give away or sell that collection and the recipient wants that music, that person would have to buy that music and that is fair for the artist or the owner of the copyright. |
Qobuz. $12.99 / month, over one half million high resolution albums and millions of red book CD. Indistinguishable from personally owned files (assuming equivalent electronics. Owning files as @yyzsantabarbara said is very ten years ago. |
Yes for music you can buy a moral consciousness cheap by paying Qobuz and the like corporations , even if the musicians receive almost nothing... What about books ? The two important books i read in the last months are so costly that a student in Africa cannot eat for many months or for a year to pay for them... Is it moral to sell them to him instead of giving it to him free ? Dont ask me the answer ... It is IMMORAL to sell them ...Corporations make money not the writer... It is like the so called "vaccines" only rich countries buy them at first and before any poor country can ask for it , anyway they were revealed a medical fraud... Rich people afford a moral standpoint with so much ease... Pay a corporation and all is good in the best of all world 😊 My post is not against you ghdprentice, i know you are a very good man...my post is against corporations... I hate them... |
Here is an argument for streaming. Instead of having a limited set of CD’s or limited to hear what the radio plays (usually not very varied). Streaming opens up the world of recorded music. I tend to listen way more than in the past to my CD’s and old LP’s. Instead of the artists getting 0 money from me they now have a chance to get something. Now if millions of people are like me, and I think that is the case. New found money should be going to these artists. The rates could be better but this is still relatively new. |
The reason I want ripped files is because my Onkyo DP-X1A DAP can upsample stored files to DSD, and they sound incredible. It is a hirez dap and I can stream Quboz or Tidal MQA. The files stored on an SD card that I upsample to DSD sound noticeably better. See:
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@kota1 Upsampling adds nothing to the sound quality of a CD 44.1/16 file - except bloat, that is. The line... "selectable Real-Time DSD Conversion converts MP3, WAV, and FLAC music files into DSD-quality audio" ...is just absolute nonsense. |
There are probably a lot of people who transferred their CD collections to one of those storage devices, have not touched the physical discs for years, and would be happy to sell them. It might be just the disc and the booklet, but that would make it cheaper, particularly because they'd be less saleable to dealers. People might even be willing to sell the cabinet along with them. No legal problem selling physical CDs either. |
I think you’re probably heading into uncharted territory here. I’ve never seen or heard of people selling ripped music collections except those that may be included with purchasing a used component with the music already loaded on to it. |
@kota1 I have not heard the Onkyo, but common sense and many experiments with upsampling have borne out my statement. Regardless of the nonsensical aspect of it, the claim that this DAP will magically convert MP3 to DSD-Quality audio should be punishable under fraud statutes. |
Even if you bought the physical CDs of someone who has ripped his collection to a hard drive, that would still be a copyright violation. The person buying the CD has a right to the use of the content on the CD, including ripping it to a hard drive for his own convenience. But, when he sells the CD, he would have to delete the files associated with the sold CDs to be compliant. It is simple--there was only one purchase of the right to the content, there cannot now be two different owners of the right to use the content unless there is a second purchase of the right from the holder of the copyright. |
@kota1 If you believe this device brings MP3s to the sonic quality of DSD, then I have a bridge to sell you. I'm sure it's a fine player, but its ad copy is a thin tissue of lies, exaggeration and puffery. If anything, converting 44.1/16 to DSD is a LOSSY conversion, since you are converting between formats. |
Over the years I’ve gone to garage sales. At the last one, I scored just under 1100 CD’s for $150.00. I kept what I wanted and gave the rest to a friend. I told him to take what he wanted and pass the rest on. I have no idea what he kept, but a few weeks later I found a check in the mail for $100.00. I tried to give it back to him and he started to get mad! So I ended up filling in my collection with around 200 CD’s for $50.00. Something else you can do is get disks from the library and rip them. I know someone who did that for years until they had nothing else left that he wanted. All the best. |