What Do You Think . . . and How Does It Work?
I missed this scientific philosophy duel in real time. I had to read reruns. Is it too hard to understand that people buy speakers, the best ones they can, because they do not feel like building their own? By the way, if google is not lying, there is no speaker company named Narcissus. Do I see a wonderful opportunity to name world's best concrete speakers? Flagship made of concrete Narcissus Herniakos. Followed by a standmount Narcissus Acropolis. Desktop model Narcissus Komputerikos, Portable Bluetooth model Narcissus Fakeius, and cost-no-object Narcissus Kenjitos. |
@glupson, I know your question wasn't addressed to me per se, but I think people would be interested in DIY equipment for a few reasons: a) you hope to end up with better equipment than you could afford to purchase from the manufacturer. b) You might learn something in the process about how such things go together and work. c) Pride in saying, "I made that and it sounds good!" If you have the time and energy, why not build your own? |
Thanks, it's nice to know I'm not insane....;) "Mama didn't raise fools...'odd', but not fools....' Maybe...*L* The OP (Thanks, Bob!) pretty much describes WTH I'm about....I keep on 'doin' what I do', because: a.2) I can afford to. b.2) I have and am learning that YES, it isn't easy...but it IS a learning curve that does make one Think...which keeps the 'wetware' from solidifying... c.2) Damn! It does work! It does sound good, and it does just what it's supposed to! Yes, it's not 'perfect'. And I'll be the first to admit it. I lack the means and methodology at present to arrive at 'perfect'. On the other hand, there's been an enormous amount of discussion rendered here and elsewhere as to what 'perfection' is and percieved as. So...now, as before. My door is open to whomever cares to arrive at it. Come, listen for yourself. I'm more than happy to have 'constructive criticism'. You can come and have a good laugh at my equipment. I don't claim SOTA. 'Functional' within means, yes. 'Hearing the violinist breathe?' NO....and that's not the point, nor mine. Wear your mask until I take your temperature. ;) Put your presence where your typing is. *G* Regards, J (OK, I've just wandered into one of the other catagories.....oh, well...*LOL*) |
Jerry, I think we enjoy finding kindred spirits here. I don’t have the means to approach “perfect”, if there is such a thing, but I look forward to enjoying some of the flavors of imperfect. As others have stated, it’s about the music and enjoying it, not about fretting over the details. If you enjoy the tweaking, have at it, but don’t forget why you and I are doing that — to enjoy the results. I’ve been accused of over-thinking a lot of things, but when it comes down to it, just relax and enjoy. You already have better equipment than most have ever had . . congratulations! 👍🏻 |
bob540, I agree with all three of your points. My point was that most of the people do not have skills, time, energy, space, or even interest to do it themselves. They simply buy the best they can at that moment. They are often perfectly satisfied with their purchase and use it for years. It may not be as good as if they have done it themselves, although that is also a big gamble, but they can use them moments after they bring them home. Just that feeling of "Made by Me" is worth it, but it may not be an option for most. |
bob540, *L* In the past, I've owned 'better' equipment....but what was 'better' or 'best' then is more 'typical' now. The 'goal posts' have moved, prices and exclusivity have gone up in most cases as well. Meanwhile, we've grown older, our hearing has declined in most cases, and disposable funds have become generally limited for most. First and foremost, I enjoy music..tending towards 'newer' forms, but spouse and I took the time to listen to Yo Yo Ma's 'gift' to us all over the weekend. A superlative talent, playing Bach as only he knows how....and how! 👍👏😂 My current choice of equipment will not impress, nor is it meant to. I've amassed that which 'works' for my tastes and desires. 'Flexible' is of more interest to me currently, done with a limited budget. But it does 'what it does'....'good enough'...for my pleasure, and well enough to allow me to pursue my DIY goals. After all....isn't this supposed to be 'fun', engaging. a delightful noise? Yours, and all y'all...Jerry |
glupson, true....+1 *S* I have ’conventional’ speakers that I can ’fall back on’ as desired. I enjoy them as well...and one needs a ’baseline’ to strive for, and perhaps surpass... Keeps me out of trouble...at least, until I post here... ;) Have a pleasant weekend. Let’s hope SpaceX makes history tomorrow. We could use 'plug 'n play' spacecraft. *G* |
kenjit, You started off with some good points, but what happened after the conspiracy to suppress Harry Olson's research?
Anyway, going by previous experienced accounts (alymere p1, darkstar p2, and ctstereo p2) it seems that the Plutos are well worth tackling for those not yet willing to attempt the more challenging Linkwitz designs, Orion's/ LX521s. In fact they very could easily rank amongst the greatest of all loudspeaker bargains. Hopefully more of these designs will be built so more of us can get to hear them for ourselves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_F._Olson |
"We have been sold speakers that DONT WORK."All of mine work. None ever died, except one tweeter once during the teenagers' party. "They end up being resold because they are not good enough."They may be resold, but the reason may not be that. People simply want to try different things from time to time. Not everyone wears same pants until they fall apart. People change them. Varietas delectat. |
