Washington Post article on MoFi vs. Fremer vs. Esposito


Here's a link to a Washington Post article on the recent dustup with MoFi. The comments section (including posts by Michael Fremer) are interesting.

Disclaimer: This is a "public service announcement, a point Im adding since some forum members complained the last article I referenced here was "paywall protected", I'll note that, for those who are non-subscribers, free access to limited numbers of articles is available by registering (trade-off: The Post will deluge you with subscription offers)

kacomess
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You misunderstood me. What I meant was that when I look around, I see people getting angry about things that are not that important while being oblivious to very serious problems. For example, fentanyl is pouring into our country causing untold death and misery here and in Mexico, but it seems like very few people are concerned about it in the least. I would prefer that people direct more of their anger at that and less at MoFi, but each person is free to direct their anger wherever they want, of course..

I never have to worry about my chute not opening because I dont skydive. Just because people dont share your concern regarding this problem doesnt mean they are not aware. 

Curious how this will affect Mo-Fi’s turntable and analog hardware in general. Will they reveal that their turntables are nothing but rebadged/re-plinthed versions of another high end brand? (Tongue firmly in cheek…)

I agree, and if this was a thread about Fentanyl, I would express anger and great concern. However, this is an audio site and the thread is about MoFi... 

Well you just did express anger and great concern so this is now on the record. Exactly who would be the recipient of your anger? 

A class action was inevitable.

I own one MoFi "one step" album. It was warped and noisy out of the box.

Personally I never liked their stuff, even in the pre-Music Direct days.

This is a First World Problem, to be sure.  Let’s face it that like Wine Tasters, audiophiles can be easily duped.  Why?  Because there is more than one way to arrive at excellent sound. Mid Fi equipment today performs at a fantastic level compared to 30 years ago.  It makes it easy for to claim some special process is going on when the reality is there is nothing beyond baseline competence and clever marketing 

The core issue is not sound quality but rather the devious, blatant dishonesty & lack of ethics exhibited by MoFi/MusicDirect in their marketing propaganda...attributes I've seen before with MD.

Unfortunately for MD, this stain will linger for a very, very long time.

 

This will never get to court. As a case this is not worth the time of day because the financial damage done to any one individual is minute. The reward for staging a class action suite would not be worth a law firms time and effort. Some fly by night lawyer may try to scare MoFi out of a settlement but that is about it. No self respecting law firm would ever take this case it simply is not worth enough.

MoFi is no more guilty of an ethical breach than any other advertiser. They all lie. The pharmaceutical industry is addicted to this game. 

mijostyn

This will never get to court. As a case this is not worth the time of day because the financial damage done to any one individual is minute. The reward for staging a class action suite would not be worth a law firms time and effort.

The case has already been filed and summons issued to Music Direct. The case (Tuttle, Collman v. Audiophile Music Direct) makes for interesting reading and seeks Class Action status, which seems far fetched to me.

What really hacks most of these folks off is at the end of the day they could not hear the source tapes went from Analog to DSD to Analog to Lathe. For all the videos from these dudes who claim they just know when digital is used apparently they were not able to hear it and only started posting all these "I am personally hurt and feel violated" videos when they were told it was digital.

The process does in fact result in a signal chain that is cut directly from analog electronics into the cutter heads preview and program channels. The DSD256 or DSD64 step is made with an exacting transfer process from the original tape under various supervised conditions. This gives MoFi a good deal of flexibility. 

While they may not have explained the process used as good as they could have, I do not feel they intentionally mislead anyone. Besides, if these experts know and understand all this stuff, then why are the shocked to learn of the process? They're over reactions are a bit disingenuous and attention seeking. 

 

 

This tempest in a teapot has no effect on my listening experience. 
 

I have found almost all of my MoFi LPs - not just these DSD or whatever they are called things - to sound inferior to my carefully cared for original pressings from decades ago. Why? Because the “original master tapes” themselves that MoFi relies on have very likely deteriorated over time during storage.
 

Those LPs of mine that were not so carefully cared for? The MoFi sounds better than those. That’s a low bar. 
 

But as a general rule, the MoFi pressings lack depth, staging, detail and dynamic range.


Therefore … yes, I hear the difference between a quality original anolog LP press that is well preserved and a reissue, regardless of whether it is AAA or ADA.   

My two sense. 

@big_greg 

"In my experience, it's been the Japanese SHM SACDs that are on the "bright side".  All of the MFSL SACDs I have are much easier to listen to."

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