assetmngrsc: Yes, there are pneumonia vaccines, but they only protect one from Streptococcus pneumonia. And one specifically for H flu. There are many types of pneumonia: bacterial, mycoplasma, fungal and other less common types. A short list of some bacterial: Streptococcal, staphylococcal, peptostreptococcal, Bacillus anthracis, Nocardia, Actinomyces, Neisseria meningitidis, Moraxella catarrhalis, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Escherichia coli, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Acinetobacter, Burkholderia pseudomallei, Yersinia pestis, Francisella tularensis, Chlamydia pneumoniae....... And the list goes on. Then there are the different types of fungal or viral, etc. Treatment for these are not 100% in an otherwise healthy person. Take someone sick from COVID-19 with its pathology and add another infection (a pneumonia of another kind) and treatment is less effective. Vaccines and antibiotics help your body fight the infection. If your body is already weakened....
YES! Everyone under the age of 2 and over the age of 65 should be vaccinated, but is not a one and done thing. |
Geoffkat:
At least you realize that you cannot defend the indefensible. |
Far be it from me to defend the indefensible. Why would I? I wouldn’t. But moving right along.... |
"...most COVAD-19 deaths are related to pneumonia infections" "Most" means "some are not". Not much you can do about it, but hearts seem to be affected quite a bit, too. |
I have not been a poster here long on gon but one of my favorite threads and not to long ago was the ’MHDT Orchid or Lampizator Amber 3?’ thread. Grannyring (Bill) was fortunate enough to set up a ’shoot out’ of the MHDT Orchid and the Lampizator Amber 3, with the added bonus to audition the Golden Atlantic TRP also, with Collin of Gestalt Audio.
No online internet bullying or snipping by middle aged men hiding behind a moniker on that thread.
Just plane ol down to earth and groovy sharing of ideas and experiences with like minded individuals regardless of your audiophile pedigree. That thread was chock full of positive posts.
And to think I did not stop by HiFi Buys and check out the new Vandersteens when they came in some months ago as I told them I would.
HiFi Buys in Buckhead, GA which is just outside Atlanta, GA - is open and seeing walk in customers - if anybody wants to know.
I also learned something from that thread too. What I learned is I prefered the MHDT Orchid because I liked the price point/performance ratio and I already have (2) NOS Platinum Grade Cryoed TELEFUNKEN E88CC / 6922’s that are an exact compliment needed for the MHDT Orchid.
If anybody from HiFi Buys or someone that has something positive to say about that store/shop or any other, please chime in.
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Gpgr4blu-get your facts right. Trump halted travel to China months ago and the left crucified him. Then he stopped travel to Europe and got crucified from the left. A leftist like Biden or Bernie would have never stopped travel nor closed the borders like Italy didn’t do and we would have been 100 times worse.
Trump can only do so much, he can’t snap his fingers and have a vaccine nor can he provide 100,000’s of test kits. WHO and China have much to blame more so than Trump
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@tyray I am also curious about MHDT. Some interesting posts on this thread with an OP I started: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/which-dac-makers-let-you-do-in-home-trial?I am going to unfollow this thread because while I have many strong feelings and views about politics and this situation, I need something apolitical from Audiogon. My appreciation to those who weighed in on the question, and I'll now stop following this post. |
Not to be scary, but we are already becoming saturated here at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor - we will overwhelm ICU bed capacity by next week. My son has COVID-19 as do many of his colleagues in engineering. Please shelter at home. |
My wife is the Chief Nursing Officer for a major hospital in a metropolitan area. She’s working her ass-off right now, while I stay home, play with the dogs and become a “full-time” audiophile. Works for me....
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While travel bans may mitigate the situation temporarily they cannot stop the inevitable, their sole purpose is to improve the optics.
I've been trying to avoid this thread and any others that deal with the outbreak, and will probably regret stepping in, but... The month old article you referenced might as well be 100 years old. Things have been changing at a dizzying pace, and we still don't know what we don't know. It's not an "optics" problem. It's a math problem. If the spread of the disease isn't slowed down there will be more sick people than there are ventilators and providers. Our healthcare system runs at close to capacity as it is. The virus is going to spread until a vaccine is developed, but if it spreads slower, hopefully we won't be putting healthcare professionals in the position of having to make decisions about who gets treatment and who gets left to die in their home. |
If the spread of the disease isn't slowed down there will be more sick people than there are ventilators and providers. This is baked in. Do the math. Infections increase ten fold every 2 weeks. 1k becomes 100k in one month, 10M in two. Symptoms run about two weeks behind infections, intubation/death another two weeks behind that. The death count, in other words, lags infections by a month. A month in which infections increase by 100 times. Let's say the case fatality rate is the low 1% that some claim. Its not but let's assume for the moment it is only 1%. So what this means, by the time you get to 1k dead, it means you had 100k infected. Not now, but a month ago. In the month it took for the 1% to get sick and die the 100k infected grew to 10M. Then in just two more weeks its 100M. Essentially everyone in the country susceptible to infection will have been infected. This is the nature of exponential growth. Changing the numbers around, all it really does is shift the date we run out of hospitals and beds by a few days or weeks. It does not change the outcome. Nothing now can change the outcome. The time for that was two full months ago. Back when I posted my PSA. |
Hey mc, your math is all hosed up. Try to keep up with the discussion. For one thing the correct term is mortality rate, not fatality rate. The mortality rate for any country can be easily calculated on the fly, as I have done the past couple weeks, since the number of confirmed cases and deaths are kept up to date on the Johns Hopkins database. As I posted this morning the mortality rate in the US is falling and is currently about 5 times less than Italy, which probably has the highest mortality rate, or maybe Iran. Spain is not far behind if I recall correctly.
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Your right big_greg it IS about the math which is why instituting a travel ban and then claiming “mission accomplished accomplished” was such a huge blunder. Instead we should have readying our medical infrastructure and testing on a mass scale to mitigate the spread. This administration was warned repeatedly that the country was not ready to handle a pandemic and that travel bans are not effective. But as I said they are only worried about the optics....which aren’t too good I might add.
Oh well I’m at a 3500 acre hunting ranch with stockpiles of provisions to last more than a year. Hope the rest of you had the foresight to see this coming further than a month ago.
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chrshanl37
Your right big_greg it IS about the math which is why instituting a travel ban and then claiming “mission accomplished accomplished” >>>>I was under the impression it was Biden who was the stutterer. |
"...the mortality rate in the US is falling and is currently about 5 times less than Italy, which probably has the highest mortality rate, or maybe Iran. Spain is not far behind if I recall correctly." U.S.A. came into this more prepared than other mentioned countries with more available resources for better outcome. How long will that hold remains to be seen. |
@chrshanl37 I think I misinterpreted your remarks. I think we're on the same page. |
@ hilde45Here’s a link at six moons of a review of the MHDT Labs Orchid for you to check out. My apologies as I misspoke about the MHDT Labs Orchid using a compliment of 6922’s tubes. It actually uses one 396A's or one of it’s many variants. It’s a great read too. I hope this helps.
https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/mhdtlab/ |
Some dealers are amazing people but a few are definitely bad apples.
My experiences detailed below:
1. I made it clear starting out I care only for 2 channel. Dealer insisted surround sound receiver in case in future I wanted to add surround. Come to find out this dealer despite selling high end gear knows less than I do now when revisiting him. This is a shop in NY.
2. I also find shops in Manhattan usually having a snobby vibe about them, only helping those with deep pockets and giving attitude while doing their filtering.
When I find good dealers, I keep loyal to them forever.
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