Tektons sound like my toilet smells.
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They are Bose for a new generation.
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They are Bose for a new generation.
Vintage vs New
well….a properly upgraded (Mike Samra )and maintained MC240 with the right tubes ( Andy at VTS ) is probably as far as ya can get a transformer tube amp. The MC240 xformer one of the best ever. Roger Modjeski and a few others…. run a set of ESL63 off that… https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/7106 pictures of that and lots of great gear in my vintage system photos….rather than blather on about things never heard, busy….listening….. |
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Tektons sound like my toilet smells. Just MHO. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ve never heard ONE single Tekton. BUT you have a horrible "honest opinion". If you can’t pick a design from the many that are made by Tekton, YOU have some very discriminating and limited abilities to make things work. Way to many have been sold and the orders keep mounting. Would I change things if I used them? LOL Oh mercy, I recon so.. I like domes and I LOVE a good ribbon or small planar. I don’t like BASS in monitors. I don’t care WHO makes it.. BUT that is the OLD way of doing things.. Mids/Highs and ANY bass don’t mix. One there is way to much vibration. Second no way to TIME align the two different types of signals in the SAME BOX. Then add a room with a top and bottom.. Surely you jest. And Tektons smell? There are FEW speaker manufactures that don’t in my book. BUT then what do I know.. I’m happy, right after me everyone else is next.. I don’t think I’d buy new speakers unless it was parts and drivers to build new cabinets or something.. I’d buy them if I was a speaker buying mode. BUT I like planars and ribbons. Strathearns.. The best I’ve ever heard.. I can hear Carlos right now... Still quit a few around too.. Just so coveted by REAL speaker enthusiast.. LOL so are Neo 8 Monsoons. They last forever if they are taken care of and have the updated screws/nuts added in the older ones.. Strathearns you can still get parts too.. Infinity IRS Betas were wonderful with a little work.. Serious speakers fella. 4 servo bass columns sure made a difference too.. NOTHING better.. I saw the reference to Mac 240s and VOTT. LOUD comes to mind.. I had a few combos with Jensen Imperial Subs too. 3 speakers were 3 pickup loads. OFF to the school dance we would go.. MC240 and a Mac30 Kit.. I bought them from the Local Masonic Lodge when they did an upgrade.. I was 17 or 18. Whole inside auditorium had LOUD Boom Boom.. Do they even have school dances any more? I wonder.. Happy happy.. |
https://jeffsplace.positive-feedback.com/the-vintage-beat-the-altec-lansing-voice-of-the-theatre-a5-... In the book Grateful Dead Gear by Blair Jackson, ‘Bear’ (Owsley Stanley), the Grateful Dead’s sound man for many years, described how he introduced the Grateful Dead to the ‘Voice of the Theatre’ loudspeakers and McIntosh MC240 amplifier he used in his home stereo in Berkeley. The impressive sound quality that Bear’s ‘Voice of the Theatre’ & McIntosh MC240 hi-fi system was capable of inspired The Dead to develop a practice system based on ‘Voice of the Theatre’ loudspeakers and McIntosh amplification, which also served as their early PA system. Practical ,definitely not but should be able hold their own against the double impacts. We have come a long way creating full range sound from a smaller and smaller enclosures but unless you're using DSP vintage and current crossover components still use resistors, capacitors and coils and drivers are still based on electricity through coils(yes there are other technologies AMT ribbon electrostatic...). Teckton has developed a low mass midrange array but compression horn drivers employ the same philosophy by using a 1 inch low mass driver. I'm sure there are other examples of 70 era speakers still creating amazing sound. Quad ESL come to mind. I haven't had a chance to hear them but there are people who swear they are the best speaker ever made. |
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Depends what you mean by vintage. If ten years old is vintage then okay, there are some things from a decade ago that are still pretty good. Ten years to me is used, not vintage. Go back 30 years to the 1990's, now it gets a lot harder. Maybe a few things from the 1990's would still be considered good by today's standards. But the 90's is old, still not vintage. Vintage to me is the 1970's and earlier. Maybe stretch to the 80's, but that's about it. And no, there is no speaker from the 1970's that can hold a candle to DI. Nostalgia, and wishful thinking, notwithstanding. The situation with wire is even worse. Maybe someone so sure there was great wire back then can name me the 1970's era power cord they would put up against a circa 1990's Synergistic Research Master Coupler? This should be good... |
My amplifier is vintage and is more than good... First it is the controls of embeddings working dimension of a system that matter most....Not boasting about branded name.... Second it is the ratio Sound quality versus price that count.... You can look for the best at the least price, and most of us did that without thinking that their choice of gear is the best there is or ever will be, and in this search, some vintage are IMPOSSIBLE to beat in this scale ratio Sound quality/price.... My Sansui AU 7700 for example has many flexible possibilities and functions with a minimal sound quality IMPOSSIBLE to buy anywhere now...It is not the best in the world of amplifier but ONLY one among many more than good amplifiers ; and an amplifier that can beat it today soundwise, and there exist many of them, will be a very much MORE costly one than it with NONE of his multi functionalities tough.... Read the description of his functions on the internet... It is creativity that gives us Hi-FI experience, not a branded name linked to any piece of gear by itself over other piece of gear in the same quality class which is not necessarily sometimes in the same price class, being it vintage or not.... And many costly "tweaks" also could be replicated at peanuts costs.... It is the same thing here... Creativity is the queen and any branded name piece of gear is only one of the working dwarves....Yes some old dwarves are better workers on some counts than some others younger one, so what? For speakers, no speakers even mechanically controlled one against vibrations, can beat the acoustic of the room where they work....My now vintage speakers are not the best there is at all.... But in an optimal room they rival even in the ratio Sound Quality / price anything that exist.... I pay them 30 us bucks or 50 canadian bucks....There exist plenty of speakers better than my own here but most of the times in an uncontrolled environment especially on the acoustical dimension and sometimes uncontrolled in the others dimensions.... Then what is important the name of the product, so good it is or the controls over his embedding process? In general rule sound quality most of the times is linked to embeddings controls of the mechanical,electrical and acoustical working dimensions way more than to a chosen piece of costly gear by itself for most of us... And anyway the choice of speakers is too much specifically linked to specific use and needs to be generalized... Acoustic controls is the KEY if your speakers are MINIMALLY good one any way.... |
Come on now millercarbon There are no vintage speakers can hold a candle to Tekton Double Impacts Even you know that isn't true. |
Tektons sound like my toilet smells. Just MHO. I am not big into nostalgia. But, I only care about a narrow band of equipment which has improved dramatically over the past 30 years. As a general rule HiFi gear has improved over the years as material sciences advance and individual components improve. Just a simple thing like switches have made vast improvements in durability. Speaker technology has not advanced except for a few odd ball items like the Hill Plasmatronics. You still have variations on the same themes. Still, as an example I think people prefer the new Cornwalls to the old ones. We now have diamond cones and domes. Sound Labs has continuously evolved it's speakers over the years the newer ones being significantly better. In regards to B+Ws I really can't say. Speakers you really have to listen to and I have heard B+Ws only in passing like at shows. |
I've had a lot of vintage speakers. When they were new or close to new. I've owned B&W 802-6, Dunlavy Audio SCVI, Infinity RS series (ALL but Beta V), and VMPS. I still covet TWO VMPS speakers. WRRM, RM50s. I own the RMx Elixirs, & RM30. RM40s RM2 & 626Rs and a few more will STILL blow your mind. Now that I've said my piece. I'd take the 801 MA over the 7 series any day.. BUT I'm not a big fan of either. A youngster down the block is a BIG time fan of B&W. 800 3D pretty impressive. He won't tell me what he paid for them delivered, & set up, but he loves them.. VTL power amps.. He just got a 5k bill for those from Bea. Retube and checkup.. He sure told me about that.. He was smokin'.. LOL poor rich kid.. Now he want's new cables.. OK.. I said what about the room? I got that dear in the headlight stare.. KIDS!! BTW he has had every B&W speaker ever made twice over. The whole family uses them.. Regards |
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Vintage for nostalgia and aesthetic style, modern for sound quality and everything else. There are no vintage speakers can hold a candle to Tekton Double Impacts, to name just one, and the same goes for everything else- especially wire. There simply was no good wire back then. No power cords, no interconnects, no speaker cables. About the only thing vintage that can stand up to modern is turntables. |