I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.
1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.
2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.
3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.
I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.
4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.
Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.
Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.
Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.
Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)
Frank
PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.
When asked what these fuses do on other forums, Synergistic are only too quick to point others to this Audiogon "snake oil" thread with the posts of how great they are. But when it comes to the backing up the ones they point to, their silence is deafening. They don’t personally back your claims here. You "Awesome Foursome" are the sacrificial ones, "collateral damage" if you like.
What they said on other forums:
Jay Albers Sure for the same reasons that folks will spend thousands of dollars on cabling. They look cool and you can brag to your friends about how much you spent on them.
" Synergistic Research There’s an interesting discussion among people who’ve actually heard our fuses in their systems over at Audiogon. Check it out."
Hey all four stock answers in one post! Perfect, maybe will not have to listen to any more whining for a while. You are nothing if not predictable...lol.
Since when do you establish the rules, George? You make this up as you go along. First you claim it has to be "scientific" and then it's pointed out to you that something empirically observed is scientific. Any disproving is up to the naysayer, which you refuse to do.
Now you say SR has to join your fracas of a forum or it's not legit. When you run out of conditions and the fuses always sound better, what will you do?
oregonpapa OP My only intent in starting the fuse threads was to share my positive results
Well you’ve done that with absolutely no personal cred from SR themselves backing your claims of massive sound improvements and directionalability. Now you can stop trying to sell them to the non technical here, who don’t know better. Who would be far better off re-directing the >$150 x 4 for all pieces if they listen to you, into something else.
Here is a post from if you can believe it, from a "user" on a SR distributors web site.
THIS WEEK I INSTALLED 1 QUANTUM BLUE FUSE as an experiment UPSTREAM in the main plug which provides power to the whole system. My system is hyper sensitive to any change however small, be that good or bad. I can report with no exageration I AM IN TOTAL SHOCK. The entire system has more speed, energy and precision IN EVERY AREA. I immediately contacted a well known reviewer (UK) friend of mine to explain. Its virtually impossible to convey the magnitude unless you experience it first hand. I will be replacing all the fuses in my entire system with QUANTUM BLUE. £130 Per fuse is expensive but not expensive in the context of was it delivers.
And another one, you've got to ask yourself, REALLY!!!!!
The black fuse is a very good fuse, but the blue fuse is absolutely better in every way. It is very dynamic, bass is taught, defined, and extended. Resolution and detail increased by an easily discernible margin, yet while simultaneously being more relaxed sounding, which is really quite amazing. This is one of the best values in sonic upgrades in my opinion.
This is all you potential fusers need to know, forget the "snake oil’ being preached.
As this is what happens to any fuse (including the "snake oil" ones) that have seen too many turn on cycles, it’s called fuse ageing with "switch on surges", as there’s far more current goes through it at the moment of switch on than any other time, as it has to charge up empty power supply caps ect. That’s why fuses and light globes can blow (if nothings wrong) at time of turn on surge, here are some pics of fuse ageing.
Amg56 I certainly was not referring to your self and apologize if you took it to mean that. I was referencing certain more obtuse members who have been around a long time.
I just asked for fact rather than opinion. Sorry if that couldn’t be answered and started a war. I feel like I am telling one-liners on stage and having tomatoes thrown at you by the mob. The factual people much really be getting under the skin of the "it sounds better" people.
No one’s getting under my skin at all. Impossible, because my skin is two feet thick. :-)
You keep asking for "facts." What kind of facts would satisfy you? I’ve asked several times what electronic devises could be used to measure an improvement (or degradation) in sound-field depth, width, correct tonality of instruments, etc., and yet, no answers have come forth. I’ve asked that question several times of Georgehifi and get nothing but "crickets." Perhaps you’d like to take a stab at it. I’d welcome the information.
My only intent in starting the fuse threads was to share my positive results with others who enjoy the hobby and those who are open minded enough to try the suggestions. Same thing for Tim's TC as well.
There are those among us who in spite of the overwhelming number of positive posts just cannot face the fact that they are wrong. I suspect that they are this way with everything, even that which is non-audio related. Its just a certain personality type that fears criticism above all else. .
I just asked for fact rather than opinion. Sorry if that couldn't be answered and started a war. I feel like I am telling one-liners on stage and having tomatoes thrown at you by the mob. The factual people much really be getting under the skin of the "it sounds better" people.
That is not what this thread is about , IMHO at least, I could not care less if anybody believes me or not and whether they can hear a difference or not. Read Franks thread post....
"PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers. "
Geez, can you guys please try to be a little more convincing. That last one was kinda weak. You’re starting to lose them. Put your backs into it, lads! 🏋️♂️
Still flipping vinyl, not sure as hearing much more change since inserting Blue fuse in phono stage Sat night. But it was a pretty impressive change to start with so..... Well worth $150 to me and that is ALL that matters really at the end of the day.
If others of a different opinion are content with their $2 fuse change then so be it. I think you might be missing out but it is your money and your choice for sure and that I respect.
So please respect my choice even if you cannot get a fact laden scientific explanation for it.
I think they are the best I've heard including the SR Blacks. I really don't think EE's have a clue about what sounds best. They have forsaken science and the quest for 'valid' measures. Also the reality that people buy what sounds best. Our ears are better than invalid measures.
We have seen such multiple deleted posts within a single simple thread posted on many occasions and such deletions are most commonly the logical result of the groups' experienced moderators shutting down the nonsense responses which are ordinarily marked with repeated demands that others perform blind tests while at the same time pretending to don the white cloak of objective scientists working within their realm of facts and data when in fact such self-proclaimed "objectivists" actually have a near total lacking in the most basic scientific disciplines. Such numerous posts by the groups few "nay-sayers" or "debbie-downers" as some call them repeatedly and continually disrupt the ready flow of legitimate information within the thread disrupting those who seek to share via the forum they're actual, first-hand real world experience with the devices, methods or protocols under discussion.
I could not be more sympathetic. If you can’t afford these things anyway then what’s the point? If you can’t see the potential for graphene for audio applications that’s your problem. I suspect you’re just cruisin for a bruisin. 🥊
To me it stands to reason that if someone you do not know states something that is unheard of, the first question, well my first question would be is how. Then, can I read about it. Then, what are the figures. Can they be repeatable.
Well I've read 2-3 years of threads, and contradictions.
Oregonpapa seems to be the only poster who has remained steadfast.
I cannot fork out AUD$325 for a fuse let alone 6 or 7. Nor can I fork out AUD$400 on TC and In would not do so unless I have proof they work. It would take 30 days for 6-7 fuses to get to Australia let alone a warranty period, which is blinking short for any product of it's supposed standing. Why aren't SR standing up behind their products
There are too many holes in this promotion to believe.
You have nothing to say but it’s OK, good morning, good morning. So you don’t know what Graphene is. No big deal, I suppose, but that’s no reason to get so huffy about it. If you wish to make this personal that would be your problem. Passive aggressive types are my specialty.
Geoff, any day if we were to meet, we would probably share a beer, so to speak as I don't know if you drink beer and have a great conversation. The problem with these forums you cant tell who is grinning and who is taking the piss..... ease up.
amg56, apparently you’re plagued by reading comprehension issues. I have been consistent in my comments regarding the audio applications of Graphene. You have taken my comments somewhat out of context, one assumes to make it appear I’m contradicting myself. Don’t you have an actual argument? If you can’t keep up with the conversation maybe you should just consider dropping out.
Just couldn't help myself, and yes I have read TC and Fuse forums...
As a responsible engineer I research and look for facts that are credible and repeatable; not opinions, and here-say; but researched fact backed up and written by the manufacturer.
I found this advert on a US distributor:
"New UEF Graphene coating, two years in development, and UEF quantum treatments make the BLUE fuse significantly more holographic and dynamic than even the incredible SR BLACK fuse. Resolution and musicality are second to none."
"Unlike the Black Quantum fuse, the Blue Quantum fuse needs only 24 hrs to start opening up. And from then on it only gets better every day..."
Not only blue fuses, but UEF Graphene (TC), so there is a link. And further I looked, guess who the reviews were written by.,...
@GeoffKait - this contradicts your current opinion Ozzy, if Graphene were being used as a signal conductor doesn’t it make sense that they would have used Graphene for the Backbone conductor, not copper/silver? If you Google Graphene you will see it’s primary use is in shielding RFI/EMI. And the reason is because of it’s extremely high conductivity. Graphene cannot be used as a Backbone Conductor (I.e., for the signal) because Graphene is by definition only one atom thick. That is a problem because it won’t support the current or the voltage involved. It will, however, support RFI/EMI. Also, since the Graphene powder is embedded in the ceramic it is not continuous and thus cannot be used to carry signal. In addition, ceramic is an insulator not a conductor. Thus, if they were trying to carry signal on the Secondary conductor they would be kind of shooting themselves in the foot. Who shot their own foot?
@geoffkait When it comes to contact enhancers, The King of the Hill of course is Quicksilver Gold, no longer available, which trumped all previous concoctions, including Quicksilver, the previous champ. You can forget about all the other prior stuff. For cleaning I like Cramolin and Deoxit type cleaners. If the new concoction can beat Quicksilver Gold I’ll eat a bug. 🐛 Pour your hearts out. Put your back into it, lads. 🏋🏻♀️ I’m rather used to reading purple prose. 😈
Hipocrite...
I could go on.. and on ... and on... about a lot of you.
I am after the truth and facts. Seems you lot come up a bit short. Even tripping over your own feet.
tommylion - I think you made a bet with a buddy that you could con some gullible audiophile into putting up $25,000, or however much, for your rigged blind test challenge. Give it up. People here are not as stupid as you think they are.
My proposal at this stage has absolutely nothing to do with what you're stating (quoted above). The blind test I'm proposing would be conducted in its entirety by *you* under *your* own terms. The idea/concept is to be honest - with yourself.
I'm going further to point out that if you - tommylion - do as I suggest (blind test), it shall be you who "gives it up".
nonoise - ....It's just that you're a broken record....
I have no vinyl or analog what-so-ever in my rig. Trust me.
nonoise - ...Most times you can come across as nice and accommodating....
So to reiterate, it is my belief that by your adamant refusal to do a blind test, you’re simply being dishonest with yourself. That’s all.
I am calm. It's just that you're a broken record. Most times you can come across as nice and accommodating but when you do your act: state > rinse > repeat, state > rinse > repeat, it's beginning to look like your sincerity is nothing more than trolling.
I think you made a bet with a buddy that you could con some gullible audiophile into putting up $25,000, or however much, for your rigged blind test challenge. Give it up. People here are not as stupid as you think they are.
nonoise - ...You speak of the necessity of testing myself which is hogwash. You keep on harping about this parlor trick of blind testing as if it’s something carved in stone that has to be obeyed. Again, hogwash.
You are no authority on the matter so stop speaking as if you are one. Your strictures have no bearing on me whatsoever so keep them to yourself....
Time out. Take a deep breath. Remain calm.
I never stated, suggested or even implied I'm an authority on anything, let alone fuses.
The remainder in all that I’ve written (recently herein this thread) really amounts to nothing more than a suggestion, that’s all.
The suggestion is that you (or any proponent of SR fuses) remains honest WITH THEMSELF. So, there can be no parlor trick. No one for you to trick, except yourself. I’m out of the equation.
Akin to what Jerry might say - there’s nobody messing with you, but you.
So to reiterate, it is my belief that by your adamant refusal to do a blind test, you’re simply being dishonest with yourself. That’s all.
Nothing to get upset over, if you can live with that, after spending $150 instead of $2.
Yes and no. The validation portion of the quoted statement cannot be done by anyone other than yourself. And you haven't been honest with yourself if you haven't tried your ears at a blind test. So the observation portion of your statement utilizes many more senses than just hearing; like sight and touch.
Nope. No validation is required if I am satisfied with the results. Besides, as you keep forgetting, three different fuses performed the same way under the same conditions.
You speak of the necessity of testing myself which is hogwash. You keep on harping about this parlor trick of blind testing as if it's something carved in stone that has to be obeyed. Again, hogwash.
You are no authority on the matter so stop speaking as if you are one. Your strictures have no bearing on me whatsoever so keep them to yourself. Let them be your guiding principles as you navigate life. I don't need them.
I think for the size of the enthusiast audio market there exists a decent supply of power conditioners to hand.
I use Corepowertech Equicore1800 myself, and I know a few more here do as well. But this IS a SR Blue fuse thread after all. Plenty of other threads on power conditioners.....
You missed the point. My comment was in reference to another of George's uninformed comments:
As for noise, if there were any, which I highly doubt, it couldn’t get through the transformer, rectifiers, smoothing capacitors, regulators, and more smoothing caps that come after the mains fuse, again more "snake oil"
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