The Hungarian is here and staying for ever.

@wig Pass is nice stuff too. For sure.

enjoy the journey.

Earl

@ earlflynn

You have been a big help as I thought out loud!

I’m still mulling over the reviewers comments that the Pass was more dynamic sounding as many other reviewers and friends has noted Pass as being warm in its sonic nature especially when compared to Coda.

I sold my Coda Amp after a months use, my Luxman mq-88uc was way more transparent and resolving and hopefully the AH will be the same.

Wig 👍

@wig there you go sir.

Sounds like you have plan.

@ earlflynn

Thanks for the info, just preparing myself so when the time comes can jump in with both feet : ) Here what the reviewer said " It also has an additional unbalanced and switchable input that routes to a front panel volume pot for use in a single source system without the need for a separate preamplifier. I tried it and it sounds great being fed directly from a phono stage".

I’m on the fence as I do a lot of low listening and don't know if the Eq on the X200 would be a benefit to me or the cheaper APX200 used as an amp? I already have a great DHT Pre : )

Wig

@wig Audio Hungary and ParTime Audiophile beg to differ.

https://audiohungary.com/product/apx-200/17

https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2020/07/17/audio-hungary-qualiton-apx-200-vacuum-tube-stereo-power-am...

Earl.

@ earlflynn

It appears to be an integrated and a Amp without the Eq as the price is cheaper and has that Vac retro look.

Wig

@chorus. Not exactly the same the the LM and the X200 not even close.

Audio Hungary is serviced by https://www.atelier13-usa.com/audio-hungary-qualiton in Nashville, America.

@wig the APX200 is a Power Amp not an Integrated.

I know they sound NOTHING alike as far as sonic signature. My Dealer carries both brands.  I have the LM 845 already and ordered a X200.  Wouldnt have ordered it if it sounded anything like the 845.

Anyone compared the Hungarian gear against Line Magnetic 845 PREMIUM INT 2/30wpc. Similar pricing I believe.

Who services the Hungarian gear in the USA?

LM is serviced in my hometown in AZ.

Guys,

Any benefits on choosing an X200 over the APX200 or does the EQ make such a big improvement for low level listening?

Thanks,
Wig

Here's a great review:
https://www.monoandstereo.com/2021/05/audio-hungary-qualiton-x200-integrated.html

People do not get me wrong Raven, PL, McIntosh, Decware and Quicksilver are all building very very nice gear, AH Qualiton is that much more for me and the price tag is  Very, Very, Very competitive with the upper echelon gear by those manufacturers and VAC, VTA, Ayon……

@earlflynn

Thanks!

Wig

little less useful is the paean to an individual gadget, without comparison. How’d it stack up against a Prima Luna Evo 200? Or a McIntosh? Or even a Ming-da? For tubelovers..

LOL apples and oranges.

I have owned them all and this by far is the best tube integrated I have ever owned. Now is it the end all? Hope not.

@wig 
12W A @8ohm or follow the link for all specs.

https://www.atelier13-usa.com/audio-hungary-qualiton

Wonder how this compares to Raven Audio's Blackhawk

No rub on the Blackhawk I have 2. The X200 is in another league.

Where did you purchase the X-200 tube integrated?

"KT170 took this thing to an all new level."

That's a lot of tube!  Happy listening.

Clearly he still has a hangover from the threads "bombastic concussions" from 2 nights ago.  Time to shake out those cobwebs Geleary! :)

I Have Seen & heard so of NAT audio well built All Tube

Pardon?

Wonder how this compares to Raven Audio's Blackhawk..

I Have Seen & heard so of NAT audio well built    All Tube

@ jackd

Thanks

@wig 

Ron, Mark Sossa at Well Pleased AV in Virginia is the US Distributor.  You can contact Rollo over on AC as he is a AH/Qualiton dealer or contact Mark for somebody closer as Charles is in Queens. 

Thanks. I’m considering buying the amp. It seems very well built and the reviews are awesome. I like the Spartan eastern block look. 

So happy to see a happy music lover. 

A little less useful is the paean to an individual gadget, without comparison. How'd it stack up against a Prima Luna Evo 200? Or a McIntosh? Or even a Ming-da? For tubelovers..

I would try to keep an open mind while listening but all those circuit boards in each of the three iterations of the AH integrated give me pause. My experience is that tubes, circuit boards, and push pull negative feedback a la Audio Research can be good if you don't mind then sounding like solid state designs and that if you are going to go pure fundamental tube with no negative feedback, you need excellent trannies, simplistic circuits, and P2P. There are no absolutes in audio and these are just my general biases, your mileage may well vary. 

Curious at what wattage does the X200 transition from Class A to Class A/B?

Wig

Important to some,  not all.

@fuzztone Yes you are correct.

No it is not your typical "Made in USA" tube amp.

@ arafiq

Thanks!

Wig

@wig -- call atelier13-usa and ask for Constantin. He is one of the most straightforward, passionate dealer I've talked to in a while.

Guys,

Who's the import dealer for the X200?

Thanks,
Wig

@timrvt -- I heard the a20i a few weeks ago. I was so impressed that I decided to order the a50i since my speakers are not particularly high efficiency. While I did not get a chance to listen to X200, my understand from talking to a couple of dealers is that they are sonically more similar than different. The a20i being pure class A will obviously offer the typical virtues of that class. It is going to have better midrange and high frequency response (sweeter), but the X200 will give you better dynamics and slam and can drive pretty much any reasonably efficient speaker. Of course this doesn’t mean the X200 lacks in midrange qualities, but from what I hear the a20 is just a little better but at the expense of dynamics. You can’t go wrong with either.

I have not. 

has anyone heard the a20i? 
I'm trying to decide between the x200 and it..

my speakers are around 96db so both are fine

Thank You @J

Congrats Earl glad you're so happy with your new amp!