Nice detailed review!
All tweaks are depenendt on system and personal taste.
Since your system has already lot of power conditioning, additional ones may not help.
Thomas
The best plug in filter ever!
Puron AC Power Conditioner by Greg Voth
After reading rave review of Puron AC plug in filter, I had got one 10 days ago.
For your information my system is very complicated with bi amping and three Farad linear supplies.
Thus I have 14 power cables, one main power conditioners, three isolation transformers.
I had tried plug in fliters from quiet lines, quartet stecker, IFI, furutech, Nordost Qv2 and QX2 fliters.
I still have all of them in my system without selling any of them.
I am collector. 😁
All of them had brought slight improvement but not drastic change.
But as soon as I inserted Puron Ac filter, it made background black with more details and clear bass.
The stereotimes review is spot on.
Encouraged by the result, I had ordered two more of them so that I can insert more of them close to amps and Dac.
Now my system got transformed with more vivid and clear sound stage but not overetched.
This is the best 750$ that I had spent during last 5 years in my audio system.
Thomas
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@shkong78 Hello Thomas, I really love them Purons and I never get a chance to thank you directly. ALthough they are still at very low hours, my system is really singing beautifully and effortlessly so THANK YOU May I ask whats your connection with Puron or if you are affiliated with them at all? Thank you and happy listening.
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"Since I have Ph. D. in Biophysics, I do not trust science overall. " Very refreshing. And wise. But the problem is not science; science as a commodity is pure. The problem is scientists. Most scientists are not sufficiently skilled or sufficiently intelligent. They believe their own results without question when their methodology is faulty. Every day we read findings by scientists that are clearly nonsense. Today, much of the rubbish arises from extrapolating global warming from inadequate data and, worse, then believing it. Worse still, the politicians believe it. Out of many, many, the one I like best occurred about 15 years ago. It was predicted that within 35 years all the snow and ice on the Himalayas would melt. I wrote a letter to The Times saying that even if the entire Chinese nation went up there 24/7 with blowlamps, it would not happen. |
Couldn’t resist its outstanding performance… I now have a 2nd Puron in my system. This morning, after nearly 20 hours, my system was clearly undeniable became sweeter, nicer PRAT, more magical, 3D- so much more engaging … I just had to get my hand on a 2nd Puron. A quick phone call and an hour later… met up with Mark and I got myself another one YES . Christmas this year came early.
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@lowrider57 order it quickly because I think Mark is at his very last Puron. Next lot will arrive around new year and yes, lol, he won’t expose what technology they are using, but heck, it sure works great in my system. I’m unable to do A/B test Puron with my HFC magnets because I already have 7 pieces of them in system so it’s not fair to say this.... the effect that this Puron benefits my system is greater than what I got from a single MC-05. Happy listening |
I'm using four HF MC-0.5's plugged into my system's receptacles (and loving them). I contacted Mark to ask if the Puron could be used with the MC's. He said he can't divulge the technology being used, but it is a different concept and has nothing to do with magnetism. So, now I'll likely place an order. BTW, I researched the Furutech plug-ins and they use some kind of tech that demagnetises the signal, so I was not about to try Furutech with my High Fidelity's.
Let us know where in your system the Puron sounds best. |
Wow, so my Puron just came in this morning. I was skeptical yet very excited. First, I plugged it in elsewhere the house to warm in up while I’m pre-listening over my selected songs before the fun. When plug in, there is a very small blue LED lighted up at the very top of the cylinder which I though it was cool. It took about 10 min to start hearing something "difference" and about 15 min later, the magic starting to appear. Now, after 2 hours, it plays beautifully. This Puron lowers white noise greatly which helps improve soundstage and imaging a lot. It is quieter. Bass is even more defined and tuneful.... giving the impression similar to HFC Q45T liquid enhancer minus authority and organic. Since I have 5 HFC MC-5s and 2 MC-1s AC filters, how’d this Puron interact with the magnets was crossing my mind too but Mark reassured that i’d be ok. In fact, I plugged this Puron in my power conditioner Puritan PSM-156 next to series of HFC magnets and it sings flawlessly without problems. Physically comparing between the 2, Puron and MC-05??? the metal prongs on Puron isn’t as high quality but it grips VERY snugly and tightly. Its casing is lighter but VERY strong and I actually like that more. MC-05s built like a bullet proof but their heavy weighted can sometimes pull itself down and away from the AC outlet especially the MC-1s. System still playing and I will be back for more critical listening late tonight... So far, I’m giving this Puron a thump up. |
I am a bit addicted to these plug in filters and use them for both audiophile and videophile comparisons. I have had the following... Nordost Qv2 So naturally I will be checking out this new Puron!! I found all did something positive, but all effect the system balance and do take something away, so its a trade off. It’s not apparent until you remove them what you have lost. |
Hi All, Well after reading this post my curiosity was piqued. I sent the email to verifiaudio via the link provided by @shkong78 . Mark responded (very quickly to multiple emails I sent asking a million questions by the way) and I ordered up! He sent me the tracking this morning and I am quite excited to get my hands on the Puron. The ironic thing is I had just ordered the iFi AC conditioner. Guess I can always return that one... Not that background noise is a major issue for me as it is only when you put ear to tweets that you can hear a slight hiss, but figure the Puron can only help and not detract in any way. I plan on plugging this in to my Furman Elite 20PFi and hearing what it can do!
Thank you so much to Mark and @shkong78 for your recommendations on the Puron! |
Since I have Ph. D. in Biophysics, I do not trust science overall. 😉
There are so many phenomena that can not be explained by science theory.
You had tried Melz 1578 but with some dissappintment.
Tube, cable, tweaks are dependent on system and personal taste or mood.
Now I switch back to Amperex 6sn7 for rounder sound.
But that does not mean that it is the best 6sn7 tube.
I have 70 different kind of 6sn7 or variant tubes to try in my amp.
Thomas |
@shkong78 ohh I agree 100% just meant that it was not tested by these Dutch fellows. I am sure it is great in your system. |
@shkong78 I like your approach to audio...buy it, plug it in, listen and see if it floats your boat. Screw all the subsequent hand ringing and anguish over the hows and whys. It’s great if the science behind a device is available to you and comprehensible but I never let it dictate the outcome. And don’t get me wrong, I do like to feel like I have a modicum of understanding of the whys and hows but will not let that override perceived performance BTW, got a quad of the melz 1578s based on the thread you started on 6SN7s. At $500 it was a reach. Think I got ’em from your listed seller. Good in my atma-sphere/avantgarde based system but not better than some of my vintage 6SN7s. But I do not regret the purchase. |
@shkong78 Thanks. I have posed the same question directly to verafiaudio@gmail.com They got back to me suggesting we have a phone call but I'm kind of without a phone right now. Hoping they will give me a layman's explanation by email. Glad you are enjoying the benefits. I'm leary of boxes with magic in them that I can't understand. |
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There are some blind tests out there on these types of Plug-In Filters out on Youtube. For what it's worth. I use LessLoss Fire Wire 640X in my digital and analog FE nothing on amplification. I have also tried the Audiolab DC blockers, and they work also. The Puron was not tested, The Isotek Isoplug and Nordost QK1 had high marks. iFi was tail end Charlie.
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@shkong78 How exactly does this product work? It appears the current is not flowing through the device, into your system, but rather it is just plugged into the current source (wall outlet) near your system. Or into one on the outlets in your power conditioner? I am simply at a loss to see how this can impact the flow of electricity running to the various system components. Can you enlighten me? The review you attached does not talk about the mechanics of the filter. |
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@shkong78 thank you |
@shkong78 How did you go about ordering them? Do you have a link? |