Tekton Double Impacts


Anybody out there heard these??

I have dedicated audio room 14.5x20.5x9 ft.  Currently have Marantz Reference CD/Intergrated paired to Magnepan 1.7's with REL T-7 subs.  For the vast majority of music I love this system.  The only nit pick is that it is lacking/limited in covering say below 35 hz or so.  For the first time actually buzzed the panel with an organ sacd. Bummer.  Thought of upgrading subs to rythmicks but then I will need to high pass the 1.7's.  Really don't want to deal with that approach.

Enter the Double Impacts.  Many interesting things here.  Would certainly have a different set of strengths here.  Dynamics, claimed bottom octave coverage in one package, suspect a good match to current electronics.

I've read all the threads here so we do not need to rehash that.  Just wondering if others out there have FIRST HAND experience with these or other Tekton speakers

Thanks.
corelli
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@waltersalas  - Well, there's nothing really to "set straight" per se. You're correct, there's two side to every story, and I certainly don't want to belabor the issue. I simply wanted to send a warning, because, to be frank, there are other people out there with bones to pick about Tekton, only they don't do it here (as much). Thank you for the best wishes.

Anyway, there wasn't a protracted shipping issue between me and Tekton. The shipping situation only served to give me further pause.

Let's see...It's like this:

Say, you ran a speaker company where you got a super discount on shipping for $150 per pair of speakers, hypothetically. I don't know what FedEx charges Tekton, but this is just an example.

So, you propose to a customer that you can help them with shipping on a pair of speakers that you have returning to them. Now do you tell the customer, "Okay, I can help you with shipping, at $150, using our account to send them back to us, but if you chose to send the second pair back, you are responsible for your own shipping?"

Or, do you tell the customer, "Okay, I can help you send with shipping, using our account, and based on previous shipping quotes from customers, at $600, I can save you roughly $300, making your shipping to us about $300. But, if you choose to send the second pair back, you are responsible for your own shipping?"

I don't know about anybody else, but I would do the former, having successfully run a business of my own. I would not pocket the balance of $150 under the guise of doing the customer a great favor.

In other words, you go through shipping with Tekton, yes, you might get a break from what it would cost you on your own, but Tekton knows that they can also make a little scratch by depositing the balance. 

I didn't like that feeling, as I asked Tekton if $300 is what they pay FedEx to ship their speakers. The answer was no. Of course it was no.

As to us common fare, shipping speakers without "help," I paid $500 to ship some speakers to a friend, 215lbs a piece speakers, in crates, via FedEx freight, once. Maybe I'm daydreaming, or seriously out of touch, but that's the way it went down. Indeed, if the DIs had been a one-way journey, it was $129 to ship them from Texas to Utah, by weight and dimensions, insured w/ signature. This was through a dealer friend of mine.

But no, there wasn't a long haggling process over shipping. I ordered the color with them, they told me it would be two weeks, I agreed to pay for the upgraded Encores, I shipped my speakers out, and then Tekton refused to take them, knowing good and well by email, and by FedEx alert, that they were on their way.

All of the stuff that happened in the middle, was just a Tekton throwing a fit, based on assumptions, and backed by nothing, save for the falsity of their own words.
@evolvist first and foremost, I am very sorry to hear of your health problems and that this has turned out to be such an ordeal for you. Especially toward the end of this, things obviously went completely haywire and seemed to spiral out of control.

I have had three sets of Tektons: the Double Impacts, the Double Impact SEs, and now the Encores. Rather than trade them in, I sold the Double Impacts and the SEs to other audiophiles, both of whom are very happy with the speakers, as I am happy with the Encores.

Maybe I have your account of this story wrong, but where it seemed to go wrong is the wrangling over the shipping costs of sending the Double Impacts back to Tekton. I guess I am not clear on exactly how much they were expecting you to pay and how much you ended up paying on your friend's account. Believe me, $300 is not a bad price for shipping speakers that size. I just paid nearly $600 to ship some speakers smaller than the Double Impacts cross country last week. If you balked at that or got into a protracted beef with the company over paying the shipping after having the Double Impacts for nearly a full year, it is easy to imagine why they would balk at sending you the Encores under the same conditions. If I have this wrong, accept my apologies and feel free to set us straight.

I'm sorry if I sound less than sympathetic, but there are probably two sides to this story, and we are just getting one side here.

I sincerely hope you find happiness with your next set of speakers and return to good health very soon.
@aniwolfe  - that is also a good moral! The thing is, I'm looking right now at the little slips of paper that Tekton kept my record on, and it reads "trading later when mini ulfbehrts are ready" dated 09/18/17.

In fact, on one of the slips of paper it reads my room dimensions @ 13x12x8. I remember distinctly asking Tekton on at least a couple of occasions if they are sure that the DIs would be suited for my room size. I was assured that yes, they would fit my room just fine. I mean, my room size had to be a consideration for Tekton, otherwise why write my room dimensions down? Additionally, I wrote my room dimensions down in our emails.

So, why think that the Encores would work better in my room? Well, $4,101 upgrade of additional speaker....as well as trust, made me think that the Encores would work in my room. Indeed, Tekton told me that the Encores would work in my room, even after I expressed concerns that the DIs did not. Yeah, I was trusting. Is that my bad, that I should have never trusted the word of the manufacturer? Maybe. Yet, with a smaller outfit like Tekton, one would expect honesty about my room size, as well as any other topic. Why didn't Tekton try to sell me on the Electrons?

I'll tell you: because they had more money to make by selling me the DIs. This is all about the sale - throwing the dart at the dart board and hoping it sticks.

I simply don't think that Tekton is honest, and then they became downright nasty when I called them to task on it. In fact, they became downright nasty and insulting. Take the Encores, don't open the boxes, and sell them on Audigon, indeed!

I've never, in all of my years as an audiophile, ran across a circumstance like this. Then again, I've never returned anything I've purchased for an upgrade, either.

Yeah, my bad for being so trusting. *shrug*

@evolvist

I think the moral of the story is...GET IT IN WRITING! Sorry for your issues with Tekton.

What puzzles me is, if the DI’s didn’t work, what made you think the Encores would? Maybe that’s why Tekton didn’t want to give you a return policy for the Encores?

The other thing I want to say is and I am sure some would disagree. I feel those speakers ( DI’s or Encores) are too big for your room. The Electrons to me are such an overlooked option as the tweeter is at a normal height and is still a very big speaker. It’s almost like a macho thing to do, to get the bigger speaker that is more talked about while ignoring the size of your room.
@jcarcopo ...I think the moral of the story is, if you're going to make a deal, you honor that deal, and you especially don't attempt to screw over the customer.

There was several times that I felt like backing out of the deal, and I even told Tekton so, but at the end of the day I needed to stick by my word, even if I didn't care for the DIs, and even if the expenditure was more than I thought it would be. I owed that to myself and I owed that to Tekton.

From now on, though, I won't trust anybody. What's more, I certainly don't trust Tekton. Perhaps they should have never made that deal with me; nonetheless, they did...so I expected them to fulfill their end, as I did mine, not turning the speakers away at the dock, and certainly not to attempt to bilk me out of more cash by using their "policy" against me, while forming a double standard.

The point is, like I said before, if it can happen once, it can happen again. There are many other points I could bring up, and things that I know, but I won't do that.

I simply wanted to spread a word warning. Conflict happens in life, and people don't often see eye-to-eye, but hey, right is right, and wrong is wrong.

I was done dirty, and pretty wrong.
evolvist, I am sorry to hear about your unfortunate situation with the DI/Encores. I know from your posts how much you were looking forward to the Encores.
I did trade my original DI’s for the DI SE. The deal went well and I am very happy with the DI SE. The sound is incredible.
@evolvist  - I was never offered a 9 month trade up.  I wanted an upgraded speaker when I ordered the DIs, but nothing better existed at the time. So I had to wait patiently for many months while owning and enjoying my DIs before the Encore speakers could be made available to me to order the first pair. I waited 3 months after I gave Eric the money for him to work out the design when he gave me the green light to order them. I paid $8500 upfront and I didn't get to trade my DI speakers in towards a newer pair, so exactly...why should you be given some special arrangement? I sold my original DIs and it cost me $1000 to do so. 

You sure the speaker spikes weren't embedded in the Styrofoam? Mine were, both times.  When you first indicated to me you were trading in your loaner pair of DIs for Encores I was thinking to myself that doesn't make sense to me after so many months went by, but regardless, sorry things didn't work out and about your health problems, having suffered heart issues recently, I can commiserate. 

-Jonathan


***A word of warning before you buy from Tekton***

 

Well, it seems that I won’t be getting the Encores after all.

Tekton had sold me the DIs under the premise that they would be on loan to me until the “mini ulfs” were ready. This was on 10/02/2017, when I received the DIs.

I didn’t open up the DIs immediately. Soon after I got them I went into the hospital, and have been in and out until 06/04/18, plus losing my job on 10/27/17.

I got to listen to the DIs in March, 2018, for the first time, and again in May, 2018. I had concerns, which I expressed to Tekton when I first purchased them, is if they would be suitable for my 13x13x8 room, due to their size. I was assured by Tekton that they would be fine in my room. I wanted them to be. I even purchased new stands that would suitable for both the DIs and the “mini ulfs.” This was also a concern with my buddy, who is an acoustician, as he claimed that I would need much space for the many drivers of the DIs to coalesce. Moreover, he claimed that the rule of thumb was that the height of speakers should be no more than half of the distance to your ceiling. Now, this is a guy who teaches sound design, primarily for pro studio and mastering rooms, so perhaps he isn’t the last word for home audio use; still, what he said made sense, especially given that what I was hearing from the DIs, even with multiple room placement, as well as acoustic treatment left the mids very thick and muddy.

Nevertheless, I had hopes for the “mini ulfs” as they were a better speaker, so I was told.

In my talks with Tekton, though, I got the impression that the ‘mini ulfs’ would be in the $5,000 range, as Tekton informed that they would be directly competing with the TOTL Golden Ear Tritons, which I looked up, priced at $2,499.99 a piece, so roughly $5k. That’s my fault, however, because I guess we were talking about two different speakers, and I guess there is a higher one up the ladder from Golden Ear that Tekton was referring to. I wish I had gotten that in writing.

What’s more, I wish I had gotten it in writing that these DIs were to be traded in for the “mini ulfs.”

In fact, Tekton never contacted me that the “mini ulf,” now named the “Encores” were in production, 10 months or so later. I sent them an email and inquired about the Encores, because those are the ones I really wanted, even after my poor experience with the DIs. I suppose I just wanted to give myself and Tekton a fair shake with the Encores.

I admit that the sticker shock of the Encores set me back. I was expecting to pay $2,000 more for the Encores, but Tekton showed me a slip of paper where Tekton had written down $7,500. Tekton eventually told me that this slip of paper was buried under a mound of other papers, so they had to fetch it out.

Regardless, I informed Tekton that I was excited again about getting the Encores. I wrote to Tekton, “So, I guess the next steps are for me to ship the DIs back to you, and for me to pay the balance for the Encores and have them shipped to me. My excitement about them is renewed! I certainly hope that they do well in my 13x13 room. The room is acoustically treated, and I would certainly hate to be out all of that acoustic treatment in the room if my wife wants to turn it into a dining room. Haha!”

Tekton then confirmed the color I wanted, letting me know that they were 2 weeks out from shipping to me, and that they could help with the return shipping for the DIs.

Here it gets a little fuzzy, because I was told by Tekton that they could save me about $300 in shipping if I used their FedEx account. The strange thing is, Tekton claimed that they had heard from other customers that shipping would be about $600 to get the DIs back to them. So, if Tekton was to save me an estimated $300, then that means that I would pay Tekton around $300 to ship the DIs back, from the estimated $600 in shipping without Tekton’s help. This sounded odd, because I thought that surly Tekton does not pay $300 to ship each unit out, so if I paid them roughly $300, using their account, where does the rest of the savings go that it cost Tekton to ship their speakers to customers. I would assume it goes in their pockets, because the math just didn’t add up.

Anyway, I used a dealer buddy’s FedEx account and arranged shipping. This shipping thing was becoming a hassle, because I felt that I was getting a little ripped off. If I didn’t care for the Encores, boy I would be out more shipping. I sent Tekton an email to this affect, not getting into my health concerns (and I won’t do that here, either), but I let them know that they would get the speakers “tomorrow.”

Now, anyone with a FedEx account (at least everyone I know, including many dealers) has their account set up to get notifications from FedEx when an item is shipped to them. So, Tekton must have known the speakers were coming. I was in the middle of doing a charity thing when I decided to look at my FedEx account to make sure that the speakers had made it to Tekton okay. When I checked, much to my surprise, Tekton had refused the shipment at the dock! How can anybody in good conscious do such a thing?

I immediately phoned Tekton, asking them why they refused shipment, as we had a deal to return the loaner DIs, I would pay the balance of the Encores, and they would ship me the Encores. The gentleman on the phone informed me that he decided against that, that Tekton would not be honoring their deal with me, and not taking the DIs back, thus costing me the shipping.

After a whirlwind conversation, in which the gentleman berated me over the phone, I was informed that Tekton would take the DIs back, but that I would not be eligible to send the Encores back should I not like them. My estate attorney called up FedEx and arranged shipment back to them, whereupon I informed Tekton that they would be coming back to them, once more. Equally as shocking, at one point Tekton suggested that if I was concerned about the Encores that I could just receive the shipment, not open the Encores and sell them as new.

In other words, Tekton wasn’t concerned about me enough as a customer to contact me when the Encores were ready, yet when they found out that I had more money to spend, they were more than willing to take that cash, as long as they didn’t have to deal with me any longer.

To make matters worse, I should never have told them my health problems, but the only reason that I did was to explain to them that not only had I been ill for 9 months, but also that the “60-day risk-free trial period” that they kept throwing at me, was not applicable since I was waiting on the Encores, anyway. Yet the irony is, they kept hitting me with the 60-day “risk-free” trial period, yet Tekton changed their policy on me in the middle of the deal, where I wouldn’t be able to use the 60-day risk-free trial period for the Encores. That is, if the 60-day risk-free trial period is so sacred then how can it be altered on a whim? What’s more, before I sent the DIs back, it was sent to me in writing that I could return the Encores, only I would have to pay return shipping on my own. That’s understandable , and I was hoping like Hell that the Encores were all they were cracked up to be, because I certainly didn’t want to go through this shipping merry-go-round again.

I then told Tekton that there’s no way that I could take the Encores, paying them $4105 for the balance without having recourse. I mean, it’s pretty much every manufacturer’s  policy, these days, in this price range (and many above) to try them out in your home, so it’s not like Tekton is unique in this respect. Tekton kept saying that they cannot take a “total loss” on the loaner DIs, but I’m not sure how they could take a loss on the DIs, because even if I had sent them back under the “60-day risk-free trial period,” would they have honored that agreement and taken them back? I’m not so sure. If they don’t have a model for selling B-stock, then why advertise the 60-day risk-free trial period? Of course we know they have a model for B-stock, because they have some for sale on their website.

Those stands that I purchased for the DIs and the Encores? The manufacturer took them back, 9 moths later, no questions asked.

Anyway, from there, since I couldn’t take that big of a risk with the Encores, Tekton responded back, asking me what sort of “win-win” situation I had in mind.

I informed them that since they reneged on their deal to take the DIs back and reneged on their return policy, I couldn’t think of a win-win situation, that I felt that my back was against the wall, and that I was already out extra shipping. I suggested that they charge me a 15% restocking fee, or that we work a consignment deal.

Tekton then responded back with their version of a “win-win” situation. That they keep the DIs, which I paid $3395 for, and they give me $2,800 credit for more Tekton speakers. In other words, they make an immediate $595 by shaving off the list on me, and on top of that my money is held at Tekton for more speakers. This is all on top of me paying double-shipping, because they refused our original deal at the dock. To top that off, I had to remind Tekton that I had paid $3395 for the DIs, as Tekton admitted that they didn’t even know that I had purchased “upgraded DI.” As a slight additional insult, I never got my grills, and the DIs never shipped with floor spikes (and yes, all of the boxes and foam was checked). So, really, I never received the whole order of the $3395 that I paid.

When I asked how this was a “win-win” situation for me, I was greeted with an email saying to never contact Tekton again.

I know some of your guys have traded up to other speakers with Tekton. I’m sure it was done without a hitch, right? Of course these deals were all done under the umbrella of Tekton taking more money, as it suits them, and as it suits you.

But, I say this, if it can happen once with a customer, it can happen again. Additionally, every business is a human business, first and foremost. If a company eliminates the human factor, they have lost themselves. Of course businesses wants to make money, but one can’t put the cart before the horse. A sense of human kindness and customer service is tantamount to good business practice. Tekton knew they weren’t going to lose money on me, but because there was a risk that they couldn’t make more money off of me, they decided to be done with me.

Guess what happened next. After I got the email to not contact Tekton again, I had to call FedEx and have the DIs shipped back to me. That’s triple-shipping now. Dummy, me, right?

Now I’m stuck with these DIs. I will have to sell them, but only after I’m out nearly $800+ shipping, all because Tekton would not honor their deal with me.

There are two-sides to every story, yes? As this is a house of Tekton worship, I’m sure that I will be told to go take a powder. No matter. This is a warning to the discerning purchaser, that it could happen to you, too. Just beware. Think twice.


It was a truly wonderful experience.

As for Beryllium, my Focal Utopia headphones had already sold me on well implemented Be drivers and Eric’s Be version of the Ulfberth is exceptional.

Ezra has his speakers powered with Bricasti M28s and added the Bricasti M12 to his system a few days ago. I can only imagine the improvements based on that synergy and with the elimination of multiple components and cabling, etc.
Wow, talk about the ultimate Tekton-fest!  There's not Beryllium in your future is there David??
Hey everyone, a general shout out of thanks and appreciation and gratitude to a quartet of very fine gentlemen in Chicagoland!

I was blessed to have @aolprodj  (Allen) host me for the weekend and serve as my Tekton guide. 

Allen has two primary 2Ch systems one built around Magnaplanar 3.7is and the other Tekton DI SEs... as well as a home theater system driven by Anthem components.

I was also able to meet with and enjoy and experience the following systems:

- TJ's @teajay  dual systems anchored by the Tekton Ulfberth and Impact Monitor and the recently reviewed and truly wonderful Jays Audio CDT2-Mk2 Transport and Lab12 DAC1 SE.

- Ezra's @audioezra  primary system comprising of the flagship Tekton Ulfberth BE and newly acquired Bricasti M28 monoblocks.

- Bon's @jayctoy 's multiple systems, one of which utilizes the Tekton Impact Monitors. The others were completed with EgglestonWorks Andras and Elac's baby monitors. He has many speakers and components, so we only touched the surface of all of his system combinations.

The best way for me to summarize my weekend is to fall back on my primary hobby: food. 

This weekend was akin to visiting four unique and highly recommended restaurants whose chefs put together a tasting menu (utilizing similar ingredients and cooking methods, but not always).

Each meal and experience was wonderful and I'd hop on the plane and make the trip to Chicago to re-experience each one of their efforts, in a heartbeat!

Thank you very much Allen, TJ, Ezra, and Bon. Hope to repeat soon.
@lee59  Echoing @corelli ’s post, your MA252 will be a great pairing, perhaps fantastic! : )

If you can’t find the GE TRef posts within this thread, feel free to PM me.

Hope you give the DIs a trial...it’s the only way to know if they are for you, or not. All the best.
I can't imagine an interface problem with your amp.  Some have enjoyed the DI's with as little as a 1 watt preamp!  So this is an easy to drive speaker.  As has been said many times over the course of this long thread, if you love the sound of that amp, the DI's will let it's voice shine through.
If memory serves me, I believe there were several posts very early on in this thread that compared the DI's with the GE's. I recall the DI's being the preferred speaker.  In fact, go to the Tekton web site and I'm pretty sure you'll see someone who did a comparison as well.  As you might imagine, the DI's came out on top.
Yes, for the money they are killer and I do not know of a speaker at this price that does so many things so well. 
Hey folks,

I'm new here and really glad to found this thread. 

I currently have a multi-channel set-up built around GoldenEar Triton 2s, Super Center XL and Super Sat 3s powered by an NAD T748 amp.

Most of my listening is stereo though so I drive the towers from an NAD C355BEE when not playing multi-channel media. 

I'm now looking at having a new separate stereo system and keeping the Triton 2s dedicated for multi-channel. 

I have a pretty large living room and blessing from the lady of the house to have two sets of towers. 

I've read a lot about the Tekton DIs and very interested in hearing them. My ears are kind of set on the McIntosh MA252 hybrid for an amp. I'll  just be running a modest turntable (Rega 3/Bronze) and a digital player (Oppo 105). Will be looking at upgrading the table next year.

2 questions:

Does anyone here have experience comparing the DIs with GoldenEar's Triton Reference towers? The reviews for both have been consistently impressive. But the price tag on the DIs is sure attractive. 

If I go with the DIs, will the MA252 be enough to drive them effectively?


Well over 5,000 posts on this thread and the respectful and mature decorum has been maintained. This is an admirable accomplishment.
Charles
Thanks David. Perhaps my only claim to semi-fame. Not that I had much to do with it. I just asked the question--and you know the rest. Thanks to all that have made this thread informative and so much fun!
@teajay Thank you for the heads up. Here is the review by Ed Van Winkle // Stereotimes:

http://v2.stereotimes.com/post/tekton-design-electron-loudspeakers/

And interestingly, @corelli , this thread gets a mention. : )

"especially informing was the humongous DI thread on Audiogon"
Hey Guys,

Over on the website STEREO TIMES their staff reviewer, Van Winkle, just posted a rave review on the Electron Speakers, he refers to them as Jr. DI's.  He also shares the experiences of staff writers responses to the DI's, before he got the Electron's in for review.  You might found this interesting reading, even though you already know by your own listening, what they all heard and went crazy over compared to their much more expensive reference speakers.
@jcarcopo What our hobby / pursuit is about!!! Happy to hear such positive outcomes for you, not just with your Encores but also the Lyngdorf 3400. And I am truly relieved that the Art Audio Diavolo is staying. 
@david_ten Yeah I lost that bet with purchase of the Lyngdorf TDAI 3400.  Definitely a keeper for me.  The Room Correction makes a very dramatic difference regardless whether I use the Art Audio Diavolo SET 300b Tube Amplifier or the internal class D amplifier.  Both sound amazing!
@jcarcopo Checking in, on the eve of our friendly wager. : )

@64voxac30  The Truth and Aric Audio 300B driving the SEs...can't wait to hear your impressions when this comes together.
@64voxac30 
I was considering the Dynamo but went with a Had Inspire SEP for my D.I.'s. The Had is a really nice amp however not IMO a perfect match gain wise.

I wholeheartedly agree that the Truth stays no matter what.

I will p.m. you to avoid hijacking this thread.

  LP

LP, I use the Truth line stage with my Coincident Dynamo 34SE MKII and upgraded Tekton Pendragons.  It's hard to describe a line stage that seems nonexistent - it's so transparent that I can't differentiate it between a direct connection.  I have zero complaints and nothing but praise for the Truth, which is woefully underpriced. 

My hope for the future is upgrading to an Aric Audio 300B SET amp and Tekton Double Impact SE's, and the Truth will remain in the chain - I don't know what else could possibly be an improvement, especially at that price. 

Wondering if anyone else here is using a Hornshoppe Truth line stage with their Tektons. I would be most interested in your amplifier experience with this combo.
  
  LP
@teajay thanks for the review. I appreciate your efforts to find the affordable gems that bring great sound to those of us who can’t or do not want to spend huge amounts of money.
Hey evolvist,

Thanks for the positive comment about my review.  Regarding your opinion about having tubes in the analog stage of a DAC has been somewhat of a negative, that has not been my experience.  I have had three DACS (Concert Fidelity, Line Magnetic,Canary) that were all terrific performers in my systems.  I also always have a tube based preamplifier in my systems with either SS or tube based amplifiers and find no downside with having a tube based DAC as source. 

To be quite frank, the Lampizator DACs, I have heard many of their different models, have never floated my sonic boat.  I don't believe this  has anything because they use tubes, just that the overall house sound is not something I found to be as good as I'm used to listening to. 

@teajay  - Another good review!

I've never understood why anyone would want tubes in a DAC, though. That's what tube pre-amps and amps are for, as having tubes in a DAC hamstrings the DAC to one sub-set. If one wanted to go all SS at a time in the future, their DAC is now worthless. But, if like most DACs, that don't employ tubes, if you want to go tubeless, then just change your pre-amp/amp.

In my mind, at least, it limits the DAC. I used to own a Lampizator Golden Gate at one time, and I couldn't get rid of it fast enough.

Hey Guys,

My review on the Lab12 DAC1 SE has just gone up on hometheaterreview.com.  The reason I'm sharing this on this thread is because when using this DAC to drive either the Ulf's or the DI monitors the result is superlative /beautiful music!  This DAC is just like Tekton Speakers, not just good for the money, but crushes the performance vs. cost ratio and competes with anything on the market.  I compared it with three other DACS that cost over 12K and it was at least on their level, if not better.

Take a look at the review for all the details and you might want to hear it in your system along with your DI's.
Slightly different experience here with my D.I.'s with the Herbie Giant Gliders.
I felt the Threaded Giant Gliders weren't controlling the lower energy properly in my environment leaving the lower registers ill defined. 

Being a big Herbie's fan I had plenty of spare accessories laying around. To the Giant Threaded Gliders I added a giant Glider near the middle along with some stacked large square dots centered front. It worked to define and eliminate the hollow affect and slight boominess.

I have not heard what the Gaia's are capable of however.

   LP
I'm looking forward to hearing all the new impressions of the Encores. Intriguing to say the least. 

Regarding the Herbies Giant Gliders and the Isoacoustic Gaia I's. I was using the Herbies Giant Gliders with my DI's and then the SE's and was very happy with them. Switching to the Gaia I's was a dramatic improvement for me.......and I was planning to return the Gaia I's without a clear improvement in sound. At their price they had better sound quite a bit better......and do for me. My flooring is carpet and pad over concrete, I imagine different flooring will produce different results. 

@jcarcopo I will stick with the gliders. Thanks for the reminder on the specs.

Looks as if several pairs of Encores will be landing soon!
@evolvist Congratulations on deciding on the Encores, you won't be sorry!  I've been loving mine to death! Come over to the Encore owner thread I started and post you're impressions of them once you get them! There's a couple of other owner's there already too.  

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/considering-the-new-tekton-design-encores-and-owners-group-ex...
@waltersalas The Encores use Giant Threaded Stud Gliders (Choose stud thread:: 1/4"-20 x 1/2" stud)

Unless you want the Iso-Acoustics Gaia I, but personally I think $1300 is ridiculous for those Gaia I because they look similar to the Gaia II or III which are much cheaper, but won't supposedly support the Encore's 175lb weight.  I don't like how they raise the speaker's height either which would raise my tweeter higher by 2". They are very classy looking compared to the Herbie Gliders, but at least you can easily slide the speakers with the herbies, something you will not be able to do with the Gaia I.  I chose utility over looks. Im happy with my Herbie giant threaded sliders. 
My Encores are on the way! I need to order some Herbie's gliders posthaste. Would someone remind me of the correct size to 
A couple of things on the Lyngdorf unit that really make a big, if not a huge difference in musicality. 

- run RP right away and be sure to have least 95-97% of the room read and understood by RP.  Follow the mic placement instructions carefully. 

- leave the unit fully on at all times....not stand by.  The unit sounds far more organic, natural and fully bloomed after 12 hours of being on.  This is IMPORTANT. It draws less watts than most light bulbs and stays cool.  Mine is on all the time, unless on vacation away from home for a week. 

- it will take 300-400 hours to fully burn in and sound its best. That is just the way it is with this digital piece. Yes it sounds good right away and marvelous after 200 hours.....

Have fun! 
I just found out a week or so ago that the Encores (aka mini ulfs) were released. 

I had DIs on loan from Tekton until they were released so that I can upgrade. 

Now, I'm just waiting for Tekton to get back to me about shipping the DIs back and upgrading to the Encores. 

I really hope they live up to the hype, as it's been over a year. 

Special shout out to Tekton for loaning me upgraded DIs for so long. 
Hi jcarcopo,
As with Chris (waltersalas) I appreciate you taste and listening impressions.  I look forward to your opinion of the popular and highly praised  Lyngdorf. I've had the feeling that at some point you were going give it a try.
Charles  
Anyone in the Cleveland oh area have the DI's or the Electrons and willing to let someone listen to, I am looking to upgrade from a pair of Paradigm studio 80v2 and would like a little more bass for music ( don't like using the sub) wondering if the Electrons would do it DI's I haven't written off but there a little big for my space
@aniwolfe Yeah, I have high hopes. This better be my last upgrade for 2018.  
@jcarcopo

I use the 2170 with my Electrons and feel it works great. In my opinion as great as the Tekton Electrons speakers are, I feel the 2170 is the most important part to my system.
@waltersalas 
How do you like the Steely  Dan and other stuff that i asked Dan to share with  you ?
@d2girls
I played Pandora Plus through my Roku Ultimate (HDMI Out)into OPPO-UDP-203 (it has an HDMI 4K capable input) .I am using HDMI Audio only out of the OPPO-203 into Mx150 (Oppo 203 has an HDMI Audio Only output)
I mention this because it is Really good sound this way.
I chose Thumbprint radio station.In doing so hear are some of the artists heard :
Organically Good Trio
Delvon Lamarr
The Bamboos
The Meters
Stanton Moore Trio
Dirk Quinn
Chicken Shack
The Budos Band
The Greyboy Allstars
Ripple Groove
Melvin Taylor
Ju Ju
Marcus Miller
This is why i like Pandora Plus.
I get similar Artists to the one in my search.
I am always finding Great new Artists this way.
I had never heard of half of those groups
They are not necessarily new , but they are new to me . The sound is so good through the Roku and Oppo-UDP-203 , that it amazes me.
Oh BTW .For those who do not know ,Thumbprint Radio (station on Pandora) plays anything that you have given a thumbs up to and some new similar artists mixed in .

@charles1dad 
Charles, the Lyngdorf fan club is growing by leaps and bounds, it appears. I spent some time reading in the archives today and could barely find a negative word about it. Very impressive testimonials abound. Moreover, it would be a great way to pile up some hours of break-in on my new Encores instead of burning up hours on the tubes in my LM 508ia.

Oh my, how good are we audiophiles at rationalizing what we want?

@grey9hound 

Once I get all this sorted out, I will certainly extend an invitation. Love to have you over for a listening session.

@grannyring 

Thanks for that info, Bill. Thanks to you and Al, I will be doing my due diligence on the analog aspect of using the Lyngdorf. I do enjoy spinning those records, so I have to get that right if I am going to try one.
Chris,
Do you get the feeling some of us here are pushing you toward buying the Lyngdorf? 😁.
Charles