Spatial Audio open baffle speakers, who has them? Worthwhile change from Maggies?

Tomic
Her who must be obeyed does not care too much about my budget as long as it does not unduly impact the alcohol budget.......

Just what I am listening to Uber.. Leonard Cohen talking speakers and our desire to look for another pair - me included....

as the astute War Department would say “ what is the budget ? Or is this a cost plus contract ?

“ sounded like the truth

seemed a better way

sounded like the truth

but it’s not the truth today”...

W

Mapman
Due to room design and constraints speakers have to be in the classic Maggie's position which is why they work so well in here.
4 ft from side walls and 3ft 6 in from back wall.
I can move them forward but no further back and box speakers have NOT liked that position in my room.
Then I tried the Maggie's and it was a huge sigh of relief and finally just enjoy the music.

But my interest is piqued by the OB type speakers and Spatial Audio in particular as unlike his previous EP speakers they do NOT require additional DSP type control to smooth out the pro audio based drivers.

Low bass is not a concern with any speaker as I have two ML subs to fill the very bottom end in.

Uber,

Ohm Walsh speakers ended up replacing my Magnepans. Worth consideration in the same space as Magnepan and Spatial. Easier than both to place near walls and large sweet "sweep" are their unique qualities compared to either. Also more dynamic than Maggies like spatial. My experience with Spatial is limited to one audition ( with the designer sitting next to me at a show) but I liked them very much based on that. They might well be the choice for me for use with lower power and/or tube amps but those are not in my arsenal.

Falcon
What did you replace the Turbo M3 with if I may ask?

Unfortunately the cost of shipping is quite steep as they have quoted $250 freight to my zip and if we said the same back makes $500 so not a very cheap endeavor just for a trial.
So trying to be as sure as possible before making any decisions.

uber,
I have to echo lalitk’s comments. I owned the Turbo M3 for about a year. They are very detailed, easy to drive and really fill the room but in my mind were devoid of any emotion. In my mind they were the best (detail) and most boring (unemotional) speaker I have heard. It’s weird to think a speaker can project emotion. I went back to a cabinet speaker and I’m much happier. I believe Clayton offers a 100% return policy for a period of time. So for the cost of shipping you can give them a try.

I should also mention that there is weight even at low volumes. This is A HUGE requirement for me.

@gochurchgo No subs.

@devilboy  are you using a sub as well? 

M3 Turbo S owner here. My Spatials are the first speaker I've owned in 25 years in this madness that gave me the "weight" in music that I've been looking for, specifically in classical music. Also, they have a naturalness to them that I really like.
Of the times I've listened to Maggie's, I've never felt they had sufficient bass or moved enough air.

I love my Spatials.

Who said Swiss Gold is cheap..Lol. But jokes apart, I think they were a bargain when I compared them with following brands,

http://www.diesisaudio.com

http://kyronaudio.com.au

They are certainly "different" in appearance however the price is way past my budget, past, present and future unless I win the lottery... Lol.

No need to apologise lalitk!

The more information the better including other speaker brands than the ones I am looking at.

It all helps as do not want to go down another blind alley!

@uberwaltz,

I have heard both Spatial or PAP on multiple occasions. While they may sound good initially but over extended period of time, they couldn’t keep my interest. Call it a listening fatigue or lack of emotions, it just not there with either of these brands.

Then I had a good fortune of listening to Sound Kaos ’Liberation’ speakers. Once you get passed the aesthetics (either you like it or hate it) you’re in for a emotional experience that will most likely kill your desire to own anything else in open baffle design.

The pairing of Liberation and Bakoon Amp 13-R was simply astounding and nothing I’ve ever heard under $20K budget.

I plan to own Liberation some day...there is no doubt in my mind that they will be match made in heaven with my Accuphase Integrated or 300B SET mono’s.

PS: Sorry to disrupt your rhythm for Spatial....thought you should know the competition before pulling a trigger on your next set of speakers. Personally, I consider speaker purchase a very serious investment and an important decision in making or breaking your system.

Ozzy summed it up nicely. 

I've never been a Maggie fan though I've not tried them in-home. I thought at last years Capitol Audiofest the LTA/Spatial room was one of the best. Really excellent sounding speakers and unlike Maggies easy to drive.

I have owned Accoustat 2+2s, which I loved but the servo amps were too problematic (now there are people who know how to stabilize them), but I love how open baffle throws a sound stage and the speed. After several box speakers I bought a pair of Maggie 3.5Rs which I could never get it to sound close to the 2+2s. I tried exotic fuses, biamping, pure silver jumpers, replacing the passive XOs with active XO,


For a couple years now I have enjoyed Emerald Physics KCIIs, which kicked the 3.5Rs arse and is super easy to drive. with ample solid bass in a normal size room.

I am confident you will love the Spatials, but the EPs can be had for quite a bit less money, if that's an issue for you

hth

Thanks Ozzy
Just the sort of real world user information I was looking for.
Yes Clayton Shaw does seem like a true Gentleman so far as well.

Although it’s been a few years, I have owned Maggie’s in the past. A pair of 1.6s with modded xovers and the 3.5s. I now have the Spatial Audio X3. To say I absolutely love these speakers would be an understatement. They are every bit as transparent as any planar I have heard, but with dynamics and excellent bass response. OB speakers will load the room similarly to a planar but play louder and lower, and with a lot less power demands.

So yes, I love my speakers. And Clayton Shaw is a true gem of a find in this industry. Very customer oriented and always willing to help.

Oz

You are correct about space, the Maggie's are 4 ft clear front and side of walls.
Already have a pair of subs as Maggie's not renowned for deep meaningful bass either.


The m3 turbos ( sounds like a BMW!) were the ones I had my eyes on.

Thank you for the feedback!

I owned a pair of the Spatial M3 Turbo S for about a year. It was a fantastic speaker and really opened my ears to both open baffle and concentric drivers. They provided a level of imaging in my room I had not previously experienced. Its one of those speakers that offers way more the sum of it’s parts. There’s nothing exotic about the drivers, but man what a sound. I was driving them very easily with a Pass XA30.5 and a Bob Latino ST-70 and KT66 tubes.

Since you’d be coming from Maggies, I imagine you have the room for placement. They do prefer at least 3’ to the back and side walls.

My only nit to pick with the M3 was my room’s volume. Lots of cubic feet and not quite enough low end for me. I was all set to sell the M3s, and move up to the X5 with their built in powered subs, when I lucked into a great deal on a pair of Tannoy Legacy Ardens. I’m in sonic bliss with the Tannoys, but would still love to hear the new X series.

If you haven’t been over to audiocircle, there’s a dedicated Spatial forum with lots of feedback.

I’ve heard them and owned Magnepans for many years and the answer is a definite yes.