So I just bought a Hegel H390 and


I am building a new system and I just bought a H-390.  It should arrive by the end of the week.  I want to get new to me speakers to go with it. So if you’ve have or have had a Hegel H-390 or a H-590,  what speakers under $10.000 sounded the best.  And I guess I should probably get some wires also.  Nothing crazy, but not zip cord.

Thanks.

JD
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Haven't heard the KEF Blades, but in the right room, i.e. they're adjacent to room sidewalls to work with their side firing woofers, I think they'd be some magic.  I lived with a pair of LS50W on stands for a while and was completely shocked.  An excellent point source is always kind of arresting when you hear it.  KEF is doing something fabulous with their Uni-Q driver.  However, the Blades will seriously blow your budget.  With a pair of the new generation LS50's you'd have money for a pair of nice REL subs too.  They may seem like, "going cheap", or going small but I suspect they fit very well.  I wonder if anyone in here has them hooked up in a nice system??  
I have the original KEF LS50's hooked up to a lot of good amps. Currently I have the Benchmark AHB2 monos on them. I love how the AHB2 pair with the LS50. If I could get a Blade to fit into my room I would but I am using the LS50 + KEF KC62 sub. It is not too bad but a far cry from the Blade. 

The KEF Reference 1 is a pretty nice speaker with Hegel gear. They should start to get discounted soon with the META upgrades that KEF should be introducing soon for the Refence and Blades.
@jjss gave a good framework.
My two cents is that asking "what matches to the hegel?" is the wrong question.  Any really good amp ought to work well with a wide variety of speakers.  what you really need to ask is "what speakers do I like?"; what speakers can drive my room?" and "what speakers are appropriate for my musical taste?" etc.
A really great amp ought to be a chameleon these days. Mine is.
With the limited number stores around me, hearing most of the speakers discussed will be really hard to do, so I’m thinking I’ll get a pair of LS-50 Meta’s, as several have suggested and go from there.  Everything I’ve heard and read says even if I don’t like them, they should be pretty easy to resell.
Again,  thank you all for your suggestions.

JD
In your 15X15 room a closed enclosure speaker might help to control bass better than a ported type, I have a room very similar in size and Magico ( old V3) made it for me, that after many trial and error…
Amazing amp!!
congrats. Will deliver years of musical bliss. 
   Looked at Hegel years ago, I was turned off by the “stuffing” of so much in the stereo amps, caps, wiring, VA torroid , etc. 

   Hegel is great stuff.

plenty of power for hundreds of great speakers. 
   Would take the suggestions on Dynaudio, they are amazing. Only reason I didn’t go Dynaudio is it was only a few hundred more than what I bought. 
  Enjoy, you made a great mp choice for sure!!

 Report back after your ears are accustomed to her.  

Hello,
The Hegel products have a really good damping factor. If a typical amp would have say 1000 damping factor I believe this amp has 4000. It’s amazing how even their smaller amps like the H95 can drive Maggie’s. This H390 is second from the top so it can do it with ease. 
Okay you erred by buying the INT ahead of the speakers but you
made a great choice so you're not boxed in.

The most musical sounding Speaker we heard at a recent event was the
Sonus Faber Electra Amator 3. Fits your price range. 
In a smaller room a 3 way might not work. That speaker is one of the sweetest sounding I've ever heard. Quit reading now and buy it!

In your 15 x 15 room consider headphones or at maybe some
LS 3/5s in near field configuration. Or just save your money.


My friend has the H390 paired with the new Dynaudio Heritage and its absolutely sublime. A few other people have this exact combination and their feedback tends to agree.

I am not sure if its the amp or speakers, but it’s slightly, and I mean slightly, to the warm side of neutral. The presentation is a bit laid back (but not dull) and completely natural and coherent. You can listen to a lot of music on this combination without fatigue.

Before getting the Heritage we auditioned the almost twice as expensive Confidence 20 with Moon amplification. A totally different sound, more hi-fi, and IMO not very good at all. Maybe it was the Moon gear and not the Confidence 20, but I did not like it and thought it way overpriced.

But some Dynaudio fans have been saying they like the new Heritage better than the Confidence, so it could be Dynaudio have voiced this speaker for certain tastes.
i would agree the h390-590 are voiced slightly on the warm side of neutral (but without tube-like midrange ’bloom’, just smoothness and luscious tonality), and the treble is definitely on the restrained side but still with excellent detail and vivid spatial representation, heard through a deep dark background (similar sound profile as pass and ayre, but hegel does bass better than ayre imo) ... thus folks with highly resolving systems seeking a more natural (rather than a ’super hi fi’) presentation love the hegels
Thanks jj,

This is why I was asking about speakers.  I don’t want to add a warm amp to a warm speaker.  So the amp should be here today and then I’m hopefully going to listen to Dynaudio, Focal and? 
JD
Jealous of that amp!
I've heard Dyns are a great match for Hegel. And if you've never had dyns you should give 'em a day in court!
I can tell you, without a doubt,  BUY something better than even 12 gauge zip cord....  amazing difference.    you don't have to spend a lot either.   Something like MORROW sp4 or sp5 for under $500 will make a very noticeable difference.
Just buy these https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649764283-salk-song3-speakers/

i demo’d speakers going up to $6k and preferred the Salks. I’ve upgraded to Cube Nenuphar Mini’s and at 1/3 the price (when new) the Salks more than held their own. I’ve had some people listen to both who actually prefer the Salks and I can see why because they dig deeper and the RAAL tweeter is amazing. Fantastic match with you beautiful Hegel. 
I owned the h390 and had it paired with the Triton Reference speakers.  Was very pleased with the sound.  I found the Triton to be an excellent value. The company motto is "We make High End Affordable".  I think they retail in the $7000 range in the U.S.  Encourage you to check them out before you make the final decision.  Also, don't rule out buying used.  There's a lot of terrific bargains out there.  Got to love "like new" at half the price?  
I recently demoed a pair of Fink Team KIMs. I highly recommend you see if you can demo them as well. They use an AMT tweeter that creates an incredibly atmospheric soundstage. The KIMs completely disappeared into the background. They have low impedance but the Hegal should have no trouble driving them. I wish I knew about them when I was shopping for speakers in this price range a year ago.
Depending on your room and musical tastes, consider auditioning Maggies — .7i or 1.7i
The Hegel is a solid meaty sounding unit. Among many stand out speakers, consider a look a the new Audio Physic Tempo 35.  It is quality through and through, well balanced, and transparent in a rewardingly musical way.
I have owned an H390 for a while now. It sounded great with my ProAc 2.5 Response speakers. Legends in their own time. I Upgraded to Audio Physic Tempos and couldn’t be happier (well that’s not true, I’m sure I could be happier but you know what I mean.)

I was pleased to note that Audio Physic makes one of the speakers in rotation at the HEGEL offices.
I've driven the usher be20dmd, persona 7f, kanta 3, VA strauss, salon 1 and salon 2 and currently the Kef Blades and the only speakers the H360 couldn't manage were the salon 2. Unless I can score a H590 I'm set.
I’ve had the H390 for 12mths.
Can not fault it for the price. 
Have run:
LS50’s, Maggie LRS. Klipsch Cornwall IV’s, RP600’s, Martin Logan SL’s, GoldenEar One.R’s, Goldenear Aon3’s.

The LS50’s were remarkable. The metas must be fantastic however your room is a little on the large size for such small drivers. 
You wont be cranking it up, they start distorting 90-95dB on the H390. 

Maggie LRS resolution and soundstage was exhilerating but again too small for your room. 3.7i or higher is better for you. 

The Klipsch Cornwalls; we took out 10K of Cary Audio DAC & Tube amp and slotted the H390 in. 
Expectation was to hear significant drop in overall quality. We were wrong. 
It was still very good, not bright as expected. Nice and neutral if not slightly warm. Could listen to it all day. 

RP600’s, lol. Just for fun. The little $370 speakers did sound like $1000 speakers. But cost $6000 to do so haha. 

M/L SL’s decent but didn’t have enough time to set them up properly.

One.R’s; holy crap could these get loud and not drop a milisecond of speed. Sounded incredible but some may find it bright if sitting closer than 10ft. Resolution is off the charts. Really great speakers. In your room with treatment they would excel if you like to turn it up some. 

Aon3’s… see RP600’s

I like to crank it on Fridays (scotch!) and critical listen on weekdays.
In your room I’d lean toward The One.R’s or Maggie 3.7i w/ a couple Rel’s. 

Just my 2c. 
For the past five years or so, I have had a Hegel H-300 and Sonus Faber Olympica 3 speakers. I really love the way they sound together--including at high volumes. (I listen exclusively to flac files, usually ripped from cds, but higher-res when that’s available. My speaker cable is Nordost Blue Heaven.)
Great thread 

sorry to to hijack, but what speakers would be good match for Hegel 190? 

Currently have audiovectors which I like but mixing to larger listening room and feel will need something "bigger".

what would be a good upgrade ? Typically listen to rock , alt country etc 
Hi JD. Congratulations on your new Hegel H390. Excellent choice. I had a H360 for a few years in my 2ch system in a room 14'x25'. I enjoyed the H360 for a few years and auditioned the H390 soon after it was released. While I was very pleased and impressed by the H360, the H390 clearly improved on the all of the good qualities and then added a little sweet icing on the cake. The H390 had the same transparency and neutrality that I love about this amp, as well as, the tremendous control of almost any speaker you connect to it. I has the ability to make even lesser speakers shine. That said, I have matched the H390 with a little know speaker from Finland. The manufacturer is Amphion. They make a full line of speakers from mini to full towers are quite popular with recording studio engineers. I model I use as my reference speakers are the Amphion Argon 7L floor standers. They are a superlative match with the amp and are truly something special. I auditioned speakers and amplifiers for two years befo re purchasing the amp and speakers. In fact I tested speaker and amps in the 5k to 100k range and found the price performance of the H390 alone was equal  to or greater than amps costing 3x as much. As for the speakers, the Argon 7L or newer 7LS blew away speakers costing 20-50k that I auditioned at length. BTW, these speakers are well below your price range. If you can swing it, the Krypton 3 is their top of the line speaker and would be even better with this amp. I have no financial interest in Hegel or Amphion. I can highly recommend a dealer that I purchased my equipment from. Adirondack Audio in NY. Happy to help if you have any questions. Best of luck. Audiofool1
Congrats on your purchase. Slightly off topic, but I bought a Hegel H360. Does anyone know where I can learn how to use it for streaming music?
Echoing geof3, I have an H360 and Wilson Sabrinas. Very happy with this combination.

Mike
So if all goes well, I should be able to hear Dynaudio, Golden Ear, Focal, PSB and Audio Vector.  
This will  be a great day.

JD
Hi audiofool1,

The reviews on those sound great and they are in my price range, but I don’t think I’m going to be able to audition them in a timely manner.

My loss.

JD
mocean,

Thank you for all the information.  Very few of the brands everyone has mentioned I’ll be able to listen to around here, but I have listened to a couple of Dynaudio and one Chario.  I’m still hoping to hear the Goldenear’s you mentioned as well as Focal.  The only Focal dealer in the area isn’t a dealer anymore and never took it off their website, so I still haven’t heard them yet.

All the best.

JD


The Hegel range of amp is very capable indeed, certainly an underdog as compared to many amp out there. It sounds clean and distortion-free even at a high volume.  Running an H590 with Magico S3MKii with good results.
Each generation offers another level of resolution, I remember the h190 being a bit more resolving than the 360, but I needed the power and the 390 wasn’t out yet. Can one of you guys tell me if the step up to the h590 is worth it? 
h390 h590 have a super smooth super suave sound compared to h160 h190 h360 gen... bent holter and crew voiced the preamp section differently in these current top models, it is almost a tubey treble quality, no loss of inner detail or blackness but an even more sophisticated sweet sound
Thanks for the reply. I really enjoy how my blades sound with the h360, but I can't help but think there's still more to hear.
@steve59 A Hegel rep gave me a a 90 minute demo with the Hegel 360 and the top end Hegel monos and preamp with KEF Blade. I think it was Blade 1 and not Blade 2. The 360 was rather good but the separates were using the extra power and sounding better. An incredible demo. 

I would like to hear my CODA #8 on the Blades. It sounds great on my Thiel CS3.7's and the Blades are easier to drive. Once of the reasons I got the CDOA #8 was on the chance I move to a house with a better room for the Blades.
Older thread and you may have already bought your speakers by now but I just bought a used pair or totem speakers that I think sound fantastic and if I were in the market for new towers, I would definitely check them out.
Very pleasing highs, not harsh at all like a lot of speakers to my ears, and slightly warm sounding.
norton,

I’m sad to say no I haven’t bought speakers yet, but I am narrowing it down slowly to the KEF, Reference one’s or Reference three’s or the Dynaudio, Confidence 20’s or the Contour 60i’s, I think.

 I mentioned Totem to my wife and while she liked the “Pretty Colors”,  she thought they were way to big.
So the decision has been made.

 I just ordered a pair of KEF Reference 5’s. I finally got to hear the 3’s and they made me smile at louder levels, but most of my listening is at or below 65db, so I went with the extra set of woofers for a little more base at lower levels.
I’ll let you all know when I get them and as they break in.

JD
So I finally did it.  I bought a pair of KEF Reference 5’s!
 I spent a bit more than I was originally planning on spending, but the deed is done and they have just been delivered. 
So let the listening begin.

JD
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Ha, I was just going to suggest you chose the genre of speaker as first priority, but I see you have bought one. Kudos! Enjoy! 

Regarding Bluejeans Cables, see my review of Iconoclast Cables at Dagogo.com for the relationship between these companies. 
Thanks Doug,

Right out of the box they sound really good.  I’m going to have to put up acoustics behind them, and futz with them for a while, but I’m sure the sound will only get better.
Oh, and as far as cables, I got a pair of AQ Rocket 88’s. I can’t give a report on them yet because they, like the speakers are only three hours old.

All the best.

JD
Excellent choice. I got to see the ref 5 and blade 2 a couple weekends ago and the ref 5 is an impressive speaker.
So I went with a pair of KEF Reference 5’s. So far I’m liking them.  I will give them another 100 hours before I give the another good listening session.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

JD
Spatial X-3’s. Check out the New Day Records YouTube channel for his review using the Hegel.  
I very briefly thought about a pair of X-3’s. I had some open back speakers in the 80’s-90’s but without hearing the X3’s, I went for the KEF. Thst I was able to listen to with a Hegel Integrated Amplifier.

All the best.

H390 is a very even handed sounding amp with plenty of drive and should pair well with almost anything.  I used it with Joseph Audio Perspectives and it was excellent.

100 hour update on the KEF Reference 5's.

The high end hasn't changed much and that's a good thing.

The upper midrange has settled down and that's a very good thing.

The bass has improved the most, Tight and clean. No need for a subwoofer here.

I'm definitely a happy listener.

JD

The Hegel 360 drove KEF Blade 2 to some decent levels. Not the best amp I have heard with the Blades but excellent for the price. THe 390 would work better on KEFs if it is a bit warmer than the 360. I would choose something from the KEF Reference line to stay under $10K. This does not match what the OP was asking for in terms of warm+warm but that is how I would go.

Oops, just saw the post above. Congrats, Great move.