Rogue Audio hard to resell, has it fallen out of favor ?


I've had a Rogue Sphinx 3 listed for a month at what sure looks to be a great price- $899. A few half hearted inquiries who then go dark. The unit is $1600 new. I haven't even gotten any low ball offers- which usually happens with any item I post, its part of the process. Meanwhile I've sold a Pass 250.8, An ARC REF150SE, and two other expensive amps with little trouble. 

 

Is the low end of the market suffering? Is Rogue falling out of favor ? My listing is at least $100 lower than a similar one and I think they're both priced fairly. I'll keep it rather than list for any lower. 

 

Any idea of what's going on ? 

 

thanks

speedthrills

We must get to the bottom of this.

This speedthrills character, if that is his real name, I suspect is here with nefarious intent. Possibly, to disrupt the peace, which exists somewhere I’m sure, although I’ve never experienced it here. 
 

I question if he truly owns the Rogue, or if it’s just a story he cooked up to get in the forums. Maybe he’s the kid I saw once that had a gas tank on his bicycle. He was always a mystery to me. 
 

Very fishy goings on…

onhwy61 has been a valued member here since, pretty much, the inception of these forums as the "start dates" have been corrupted by various system updates.

 

You Speed are ???.

 

 

DeKay

 

 

 

 

I tried unsuccessfully to sell my Rogue ST90 in Australia and eventually decided to keep it and use it to biamp. The best decision I ever made.

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@speedthrills It's your hypocrisy that I'm calling out.

YOU complained a few weeks ago.  

 

Are product ads now part of the Forum experience here ? Asking for a friend

it’s no longer there....usually when an item sells they immediately remove the ad...thanks so much...my responses are usually brief so really only takes a few minutes, but appreciate it !!! ...btw I had no issues with your post...and I've been a member 22 years, so a post every other day 

@jl35 You’re closing in on "onhwy61" in terms of posts- you're posting on average one comment a day- EVERY day for ten years - or the equivalent. He’s posting 1.5 times a day- EVERY day- for ten years- or the equivalent. Amazing volume of comments  from both of you- you're busy bee's on Audiogon. Congrats! ME, I do a few here and there from time to time and it's not my life's passion.

This:

@onhwy61  - Thanks for your policing; with 5100 posts you must be a busy guy. It's not an ad

 

@speedthrills  141 posts

01-08-2024 at 04:28am 

Are product ads now part of the Forum experience here ? Asking for a friend. 

he had mentioned the price and I saw the ad, but interestingly, it’s no longer listed...

@onhwy61 The last time I looked the OP has it listed here. So what's the problem with that?

Could it be that tube gear in general is gradually losing steam and becoming even even more niche as time passes?

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@onhwy61 - Thanks for your policing; with 5100 posts you must be a busy guy. It's not an ad, I didn't link to the product nor mention the price and asked the community for their thoughts- and got some good, relevant responses. But, again, with 5100 posts- an unimaginable number for most of us you must be diligently on Agon full time scouring for any possible infractions. The rest of us will carry on knowing you're looking out for us all. 

Could be that the Rogue Sphinx debuted in 2014 and then the V2 was introduced in 2016. Followed by the V3 in 2020. 

Hence, there are those that will wait for (how much longer?) for the V4 to come out. I mean, the law of averages is that there should be a new version this year.

Rogue brought out the V2 of the RP-5 not long ago and- just before and just after- I saw a spike of RP-5's on sale on the usual sites. Fair drop in price after the new version appeared.

Each audio mfg differs and when you consider how few times a company like Rega comes out with a new product vs. a company like Rogue - which has a fair amount of offerings out there and in the pipe - it would make sense that a Rogue product that is "due" for a upgrade is also found readily available on the used market.

It is also likely that the market of many sub-$1000 integrated's is inundated with popular well-known brands (Denon, Marantz, Sony, Yamaha, etc) and while we all know about Rogue on this site, the vast majority of the public is not as acquainted with them. Perhaps if Rogue was sold in Best Buy, or via Crutchfield, they would have much more name recognition. Although the Sphinx is was never a sub-$1000 integrated offering. Plus there is no HT Bypass - like the RP-1 - nor a processor loop. Perhaps if they made it more home theater usable instead of offering it with good phono and headphone inputs they could gain market share for a wider audience. 

@OP

Curious, for those that have one on the market...why are you selling it?

I’m just guessing, but because they were so popular, a lot of people bought them.  Now there’s another must have amplifier out there.  Be patient, it’s a good product and the tides will turn back in your favor.

All the best.

I am also getting no interest from an amp that is well loved on USAM. I think that a lot of people are broke after Christmas and waiting for their tax refund check; at least I hope that's what it is!