One person advocating fuses here has > 30% of their
system budget tied up in cables. I can’t take this persons views on
anything seriously knowing that.
+1 and some!!
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To
my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and
then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses
and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To
those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting
their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the
technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and
listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH
WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT
DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new
your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or
similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend,
stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible
wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire
element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
Hey coralkong, I hear you. George's postings roll off me like water off the back of a duck, except, when he insults Atmasphere (Ralph), a premier high end manufacturer. In any technical disagreement Ralph has with George, George accuses Ralph of disagreeing to protect his market for his new class D amp coming soon. From years of gratiously sharing his knowledge with us here, we see Atmasphere's integrity as off the charts.
One person advocating fuses here has > 30% of their
system budget tied up in cables. I can’t take this persons views on
anything seriously knowing that.
+1 and some!!
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To
my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and
then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses
and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To
those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting
their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the
technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and
listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH
WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT
DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new
your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or
similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend,
stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible
wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire
element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
@coralkong, You, me and Tommylion are the Northeast members of A'gon. Vermont and New Hampshire 'philes. Not a million of us here as far as I can tell. For the record, I haven't experimented with fuses, between my preamp needing two, and my monoblocks, just not there yet. But I just purchsed a Schitt Lokius and loving the ability it gives to fine tune.
Right now while listening through my rig, I am watching a show called North Woods Law, about New Hampshire game wardens doing their thing. Serious at times and too funny at others.
One person advocating fuses here has > 30% of their system budget tied up in cables. I can’t take this persons views on anything seriously knowing that.
+1 and some!!
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
One person advocating fuses here has > 30% of their system budget tied up in cables. I can’t take this persons views on anything seriously knowing that.
+1 and some!!
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn’t it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
@jetter, My house was actually ON that show, lol. (It was right before we bought it last year). Fish and Game came out and removed a family of racoons from one of the sheds out back.
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
Just upgraded from 2 Blues to 2 Yellows in the phono and poweramp. My premap already had a yellow fuse in there.
With just under 12 hrs on burn time, the system is sounding pretty crap. Quite bright/Thin and the music sounds quite constrained. Doesnt have any body to the sound. And yes the fuses are installed in the correct direction.
Also with the new Yellows soundstage is very small and the music plane is very flat with little depth
When i initially got the Blues in my system it was an instant no brainer with instant improvements all round. This was coming from factory fuses. The Blues then continue to improve over a 4 week period.
I hope the yellows will improve over the next few days.
So I tried the Stones last night. Two each Red, Blue, and Clear. They sound pretty much as described on the site. Except they don't just work in those areas alone. In other words the Red isn't just for lower range. They all work across the whole band. It is sort of like they are all doing the same thing but with a slightly different flavor or balance.
It was only one night so not a huge amount of time to try them everywhere. I like to start small and places it shouldn't work, so put the first one on the Sovereign motor pod. Wasn't expecting much, didn't get much. Oh well it is only one and a motor after all.
Moved it to the Raven, on top of the center cover which is where the power transformer should be inside there somewhere. Okay this definitely is a little better. Not a lot but realize this is one Stone, two per package, so $43 for the one, I guess maybe it is $43 worth of improvement.
Gradually adding them one at a time until all 6 are in a row on the cover. I like the Red the least so put them on the outside, Blue closer to the middle, Clear between Blue and Red.
Each one alone is okay but kind of missing here and there. All 3 types combined together is magic! I was having my most enjoyable listening experience, ever!
The combination of all 3 Stones together is smoother, deeper and more natural than compared to say the one Blue QSA fuse. Which I guess is about right since 3 sets of Stones costs a lot more than the fuse. If the budget was $80 I would say get the fuse. No doubt. When the budget gets more up around the price of three sets, this is about the price of a Yellow fuse and I haven't got my Yellow yet so can't say. But the fuse can be used one place only so Stones might be the way to go for someone who likes to move stuff around and experiment more.
George, Show me on the doll where the bad fuse touched you.
Your answer is here
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing this fuse "snake oil" Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse:1: two end caps2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all). To those "non technical" members that are interested, do not listen to fusers, listen to the techs of this industry that design the audio products you have and use.
AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH FUSERS ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!!
Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar. As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out. As these pics of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even) the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
The Antipodes takes two fuses. Going from Yellow ( Mickey Mouse ) to the Red (Superman) was huge. Your Lamp needs Red! You guys need Red! Yo, 🗣RED!
The vail is lifted and you get more 🎵🎼🎶. Tonality is spot on. Realism and staging is upgraded. Worth the $$$.
Unload your Yellow, Blue and Purple. Walmart fuses 🥸 Red is the color you need, want and must have.
Red in the AddPowr X4 and Antipodes EX. 4 more to go that goes inside the amps of my Manger S1 active speakers.
Walmart fuses 😎😂🙈🙊🙉
Go pitch quarters in the locker room or get a monkey and tin cup and stand on the highway and beg and sing for the $$$. Search your couch and chairs for cash or borrow the blinking $$$. Go Red.
Ask Mike to demo a Red. He’s a reasonable guy. Lay down your CC # and demo the Red. You won’t return it 💯
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
George, I understand where you're coming from in your belief on fuses. But, will you explain to me how it is a waste of money to try one when there is a full money back guarantee?
The stones are the real deal. Like millercarbon, I put all six (2 of each color) in one place, on top of my power conditioner. I could experiment, but I am very happy with them there. I figure all my components are benefiting that way.
I recently upgraded my pre to a Django Mini passive TVC. That, along with the stones and QSA blue fuses, has brought my system to new heights. I am one happy camper!😃
Shostakovich is one of my favorite classical composers. Listening to his 4th symphony, with Eugene Ormandy and the Philadelphia Orchestra, yesterday, was a real treat.
I’ve also spent the last few days experimenting with a set of 6 stones (2 of each color.) I put 3 each directly on top of the Quicksilver and Rogue transformers, respectively. Can’t compare the improved sound to any fuses because I’m still getting around to that. But the relaxed detail, expanded soundstage, etc. reminds me of the improvement I first heard with the SR HFT devices. So from a cost comparison standpoint, these 6 stones at 258.00 compare very favorably with a standard HFT 5 pack at 299.00. I also have a light violet fuse coming in shortly...looking forward to that one. Expectation bias is sky high so it better be good!
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
@georgehifi, "Just a real dislike for "snake oil" voodoo that’s a scourge in audio aimed at the gullible."
I believe that nothing is hurting this business more those extremely cynical people that continually seek to exploit the gullible or the inexperienced.
Theirs is always a short term tactic that will inevitably leave the customer with a bad taste in their mouth and a permanent mistrust of those who use clever rhetoric to suggest such blatantly dubious products.
Yes, sometimes there is a return policy, but it is hardly ever quibble free.
Besides, who wants the extra hassle after having their falsely inflated hopes so unceremoniously dashed?
Why not instead have some self respect, and let your conscience help you to refrain from such behaviour?
how many cut and paste moderator deletes on this thread to date George? I have lost count. Your egocentric mania has escalated and is currently out of control.
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
@cerberus79 I rarely post anything here. I did so this
time because I had direct experience on the topic and reported it in a
factual and non judgmental fashion. My reward was to be called a lier by
one member and told I was in the wrong hobby by another ( I have been
in this hobby for 49 years ). I am and always have been in this hobby
for the enjoyment of music. I once got into a discussion with Geof Kait
on the directionality of fuses and realized
You/we are
lucky GK has disappeared (or been banned) he was a real comic piece of
work but fitted in well in these types of threads, and his website is
really out there https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm best one is the pebbles.
As for your Maggies I had quite a bit to do with them owning the big Tympanies also, before going on to big ESL’s.
cerberus79A
few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon
member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to
them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss
fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of
friends and neither I or them could hear a difference.
As
you stated no difference in sound whether 10cent Bussman fuses were in
or $150 SR Orange were in, to yourself or when the guys were around to
do the A/B with.
cerberus79 Has the purpose of a
fuse been lost ? How it is designed to work ? By design there is no
directionality in a fuse. it is simply designed to open in an
overcurrent situation. If it was directional in relation to the current
passing through it would be a diode
Same thing I say to them, if it’s directional then it’s trying to be a diode, and that NOT good in either direction!
But
I can tell your Maggies will sound a touch better with just a piece of
copper wire soldered lightly outside of the fuse clamps and no fuses.
This makes them vulnerable to an amp blowing and going dc, as you know
having electronic knowledge background, but no more so than any other
speaker would have no dc protection either.
cerberus79 A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference. Kind of just says it all doesn't it?
To those non technical thinking of purchasing these $$$ fuses. Just save your $150+ and do this instead.
A fuse: 1: two end caps 2: short piece of fuse wire connecting the two end caps through a glass tube (that’s all she wrote).
To those "non technical" members that are interested in "maybe" wasting their money, do not listen to the non-technical, listen to the technicians of this industry that design the audio products you have and listen to. AND YOU WON"T SEE THEM ON THREADS LIKE THIS AGREEING WITH WHAT SAID HERE ABOUT THE SOUND IMPROVMENT DETAILS AND AC FUSE PLACEMENT DIRECTION, EVER!!! Just clean and tighten your fuse holder and re-new your fuse (if old) with a good quality 50cent Bussman, Littlefuse or similar.As with "many switch-on surges" they do deteriorate, bend, stretch and get crusty with electrolysis formations on their fusible wire elements before they give out, as these pics show of a fuse wire element ageing over time show. https://ibb.co/9NbTwqK (even the $$$ boutique ones will age just as much also)
Still not sounding right. Can’t pinpoint it but my system definitely sounding different in a bad way. Any one else can share there Yellow burn in experience?
@cerberus79 I rarely post anything here. I did so this time because I had direct experience on the topic and reported it in a factual and non judgmental fashion. My reward was to be called a lier by one member and told I was in the wrong hobby by another ( I have been in this hobby for 49 years ). I am and always have been in this hobby for the enjoyment of music. I once got into a discussion with Geof Kait on the directionality of fuses and realized
You/we are lucky GK has disappeared (or been banned) he was a real comic piece of work but fitted in well in these types of threads, and his website is really out there https://www.machinadynamica.com/machina5.htm best one is the pebbles.
As for your Maggies I had quite a bit to do with them owning the big Tympanies also, before going on to big ESL’s.
cerberus79A few months ago I purchased a used pair of speakers from another Agon member. To my surprise all the fuses were Orange fuses. I listened to them and then to satisfy my curiosity I replaced them with ordinary buss fuses and could not hear a difference. I did this test with a bunch of friends and neither I or them could hear a difference.
As you stated no difference in sound whether 10cent Bussman fuses were in or $150 SR Orange were in, to yourself or when the guys were around to do the A/B with.
cerberus79 Has the purpose of a fuse been lost ? How it is designed to work ? By design there is no directionality in a fuse. it is simply designed to open in an overcurrent situation. If it was directional in relation to the current passing through it would be a diode
Same thing I say to them, if it’s directional then it’s trying to be a diode, and that NOT good in either direction!
But I can tell your Maggies will sound a touch better with just a piece of copper wire soldered lightly outside of the fuse clamps and no fuses. This makes them vulnerable to an amp blowing and going dc, as you know having electronic knowledge background, but no more so than any other speaker would have no dc protection either.
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